The Trade Thread - v2

[mattao313]

Would you guys do

Drummond, Jennings, Smith

for

Lin, Ed Davis, Ellington, Randle, Nash

Lin / Augustin - Dinwiddie
KCP / Meeks
Singler / Martin - Butler
Davis / Jerebko
Monroe / Anthony

Ed Davis starts next to Monroe possibly derailing our tank in the weak East but we should end up with at least a top 10 pick still.

We would have enough money to give big deals to Dragic and Butler while using Monroe's Bird Rights to give him the 5 year max giving us a team of:

Dragic - Augustin
KCP - Meeks
Butler - Martin
Randle - Davis
Monroe - FA
+ Top 10 pick

I personally don't like it, but what makes you think Randle is better/can be better than Drummond?

[MotownMadness]

Would you guys do

Drummond, Jennings, Smith

for

Lin, Ed Davis, Ellington, Randle, Nash

Lin / Augustin - Dinwiddie
KCP / Meeks
Singler / Martin - Butler
Davis / Jerebko
Monroe / Anthony

Ed Davis starts next to Monroe possibly derailing our tank in the weak East but we should end up with at least a top 10 pick still.

We would have enough money to give big deals to Dragic and Butler while using Monroe's Bird Rights to give him the 5 year max giving us a team of:

Dragic - Augustin
KCP - Meeks
Butler - Martin
Randle - Davis
Monroe - FA
+ Top 10 pick

No, that would basically leave us with KCP as our best player at seasons end. The draft is still a gamble and no FA is signing up to play on that roster. Especially Moose, He already wants out anyways.

[sfballa13]

I personally don't like it, but what makes you think Randle is better/can be better than Drummond?

Randle may not be better than Drummond but we have 22.4M more to spend after dumping Jennings/Smith

With Ellington, Singler, Jerebko, Butler all expiring, we could have enough to go after two big free agents at PG/SF and resign Monroe; that by itself is worth it to do the deal, Randle is the sweetener on top

Davis can actually play and next to Monroe with Greg playing his natural position we actually may improve in the standings

[MrBigShot]

Nash is retiring, Lin/Ellington/Davis are nothing special and Randle is unproven. Would definitely not trade Drummond for that, and to be quite honest I don't think Monroe will resign with us even if we offer him every single penny we possibly can under the CBA.

We don't need to improve in the standings. We may as well just ride it out and get a top 5 pick, and trade Smith if possible before then.

[MotownMadness]

Nash is retiring, Lin/Ellington/Davis are nothing special and Randle is unproven. Would definitely not trade Drummond for that, and to be quite honest I don't think Monroe will resign with us even if we offer him every single penny we possibly can under the CBA.

We don't need to improve in the standings. We may as well just ride it out and get a top 5 pick, and trade Smith if possible before then.

This and personally I think its just time the Pistons and Monroe separate anyways. Would like to have gotten assets for him but I dont want to sign him to a big deal just so we can still suck while he goes for his season avg of 15 and 9. Hes a solid player but hes just not that kind of player who goes out and gets you wins. He needs to be like a teams 4 th best player instead of theyre 1st best.

[Blkbrd671]

Detroit In: PJIII, Perkins, Collison

OKC in: Monroe,Smith


Detroit gets floor spacer, decent backup big and a defensive big to backup Dre. Also plays with a take no sh* attiutude which i miss on our team and honestly feel we need. We Surround Dre with more compliment players and move on from Joe D era

OKC: Gets good low post center to compliment Ibaka, and Smith off the bench with the second unit would make them a pretty deep team. PJIII looks to be outpricing himself this year for OKC, Adams is more effective than Perk, and Mcgary can fill Collisons role.

[MotownMadness]

Detroit In: PJIII, Perkins, Collison

OKC in: Monroe,Smith


Detroit gets floor spacer, decent backup big and a defensive big to backup Dre. Also plays with a take no sh* attiutude which i miss on our team and honestly feel we need. We Surround Dre with more compliment players and move on from Joe D era

OKC: Gets good low post center to compliment Ibaka, and Smith off the bench with the second unit would make them a pretty deep team. PJIII looks to be outpricing himself this year for OKC, Adams is more effective than Perk, and Mcgary can fill Collisons role.

Theres probably a 0% chance OKC would ever take on Smith and that contract, Actually after they witnessed him pull that crap on them tonight that number is actually more like a -150% chance.

[mattao313]

@Blkbrd671

how about:
OKC: Joel Anthony, Monroe

DET: Perkins, PJ3 and pick

[Blkbrd671]

Theres probably a 0% chance OKC would ever take on Smith and that contract, Actually after they witnessed him pull that crap on them tonight that number is actually more like a -150% chance.

I think this partly stems from the fact that SVG seems to be in love with smiith and his skill set, but i do genuinely think that if Smith stop taking jumpers, and was put in position to play to his strengths that he'd be worth it to a contender. The problem on detroit is he is a primary option, we have him floating around the perimeter . The encouraging thing is that (eye ball test) smith is taking less jumpers and seems to make it a point to drive to the hoop. Be interesting to see what stats say. Also Gregmonroe is included in the package, i am aruging that greg monroe would make okc favorites or at least top contenders with this trade.

[Blkbrd671]

@Blkbrd671

how about:
OKC: Joel Anthony, Monroe

DET: Perkins, PJ3 and pick

OKC wouldn't thorw in a pick nor would they need too. Also Salaries don't match i believe. Sh* i'd take moose for PJIII straight up

[MotownMadness]

Theres probably a 0% chance OKC would ever take on Smith and that contract, Actually after they witnessed him pull that crap on them tonight that number is actually more like a -150% chance.

I think this partly stems from the fact that SVG seems to be in love with smiith and his skill set, but i do genuinely think that if Smith stop taking jumpers, and was put in position to play to his strengths that he'd be worth it to a contender. The problem on detroit is he is a primary option, we have him floating around the perimeter . The encouraging thing is that (eye ball test) smith is taking less jumpers and seems to make it a point to drive to the hoop. Be interesting to see what stats say. Also Gregmonroe is included in the package, i am aruging that greg monroe would make okc favorites or at least top contenders with this trade.

I just cant imagine anybody willing to pay arguably the dumbest player in the league 14 mil per year. I mean head Coaches are literally making fun of us saying they're gameplan is letting Smith get open and watch him shoot us out of games and hes seriously still doing it every night.

[Blkbrd671]

I just cant imagine anybody willing to pay arguably the dumbest player in the league 14 mil per year. I mean head Coaches are literally making fun of us saying they're gameplan is letting Smith get open and watch him shoot us out of games and hes seriously still doing it every night.

i believe faried said that, and i do believe he has cut down on those shots. (please correct if i am wrong).


Probably the same ppl willing to pay DWill that much, G Wall that much, Perkins that much, and Carl Laundry that much. its actually quite normal.

[MotownMadness]

I just cant imagine anybody willing to pay arguably the dumbest player in the league 14 mil per year. I mean head Coaches are literally making fun of us saying they're gameplan is letting Smith get open and watch him shoot us out of games and hes seriously still doing it every night.

i believe faried said that, and i do believe he has cut down on those shots. (please correct if i am wrong).


Probably the same ppl willing to pay DWill that much, G Wall that much, Perkins that much, and Carl Laundry that much. its actually quite normal.

Those players were actually good when they signed those deals. Kinda like Smith when he signed his and now all of those players are pretty much untradeable without giving up assets to ditch them. Smith is also on a whole other level then those other players when it comes to destroying any chance at winning games. Gerald Wallace not playing is currently a better deal then Josh Smith playing, Hes really that disastrous. Not in a skillset view but in his disgusting approach to the way he plays basketball.

[Blkbrd671]

Those players were actually good when they signed those deals. Kinda like Smith when he signed his and now all of those players are pretty much untradeable without giving up assets to ditch them. Smith is also on a whole other level then those other players when it comes to destroying any chance at winning games. Gerald Wallace not playing is currently a better deal then Josh Smith playing, Hes really that disastrous. Not in a skillset view but in his disgusting approach to the way he plays basketball.

i still believe its a a result of the pistons needing to much from smith. IN REALITY , we shouldn't need smith to make a last second shot. If he's on a team where he's the 3rd ,4th or 6th option, Smith skill set can be better utiltized

[MotownMadness]

Those players were actually good when they signed those deals. Kinda like Smith when he signed his and now all of those players are pretty much untradeable without giving up assets to ditch them. Smith is also on a whole other level then those other players when it comes to destroying any chance at winning games. Gerald Wallace not playing is currently a better deal then Josh Smith playing, Hes really that disastrous. Not in a skillset view but in his disgusting approach to the way he plays basketball.

i still believe its a a result of the pistons needing to much from smith. IN REALITY , we shouldn't need smith to make a last second shot. If he's on a team where he's the 3rd ,4th or 6th option, Smith skill set can be better utiltized

In theory yes but I still think hes too stupid too understand that role and option, He would destroy any contenders chances at a title.

[Blkbrd671]

In theory yes but I still think hes too stupid too understand that role and option, He would destroy any contenders chances at a title.

i think he understands his role and options, but duringthe game see's that what SVG is having them do and see's its not working so starts going doing his own thing

[Whisper]

Theres probably a 0% chance OKC would ever take on Smith and that contract, Actually after they witnessed him pull that crap on them tonight that number is actually more like a -150% chance.

I think this partly stems from the fact that SVG seems to be in love with smiith and his skill set, but i do genuinely think that if Smith stop taking jumpers, and was put in position to play to his strengths that he'd be worth it to a contender. The problem on detroit is he is a primary option, we have him floating around the perimeter . The encouraging thing is that (eye ball test) smith is taking less jumpers and seems to make it a point to drive to the hoop. Be interesting to see what stats say. Also Gregmonroe is included in the package, i am aruging that greg monroe would make okc favorites or at least top contenders with this trade.

Smith generally plays well in the first half. Especially by the 4th quarter, he's not only shooting badly, but makes very costly mistakes -- whether reverting to shooting the long ball, failing to finish in the paint or just turning he ball over (and over).

[Neptune]

We need to somehow get Waiters if the Cavs are trying to trade him. We need all offense we can get.

[Ghost]

We need to somehow get Waiters if the Cavs are trying to trade him. We need all offense we can get.

Yeah, it said the Cavs were looking for a difference maker!!

We have a few!!

... They're just negative difference makers .

[Piston Pete]

Smith or Monroe should be traded to CHAR for Vonleh asap