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Re: GT: Lakers (10-22) vs Grizzlies (23-8) | 1/2/15 | 7:30 PM 

Post#141 » by kblo247 » Sat Jan 3, 2015 6:05 am

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Slava wrote:KObe should have taken the shot, not sure if Ed can make a couple.

Year but It was a dunk for a guy shooting so well under the rim. Hindsight though


I like Kobe going to Ed, trying to beat his old team.

I like it and. I get it. Had Ed finished with a dunk the roof explodes and his confidence goes up. That said Kobe probably could've converted that shot as well. Hindsight. It is not a bad basketball play probably against 28 teams. The thing is the grizzlies hammered him and dint give it up. It is essentially the same sequence we used to end Denver with Kobe and Ed
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Re: GT: Lakers (10-22) vs Grizzlies (23-8) | 1/2/15 | 7:30 PM 

Post#142 » by LebronLover23 » Sat Jan 3, 2015 6:08 am

Man I blame Jeremy Lin. Sure he had a good scoring night and made a couple of plays, but he got lit up by Udrih during that 2nd half spurt. Mike Conley is expected, but Udrih... really??
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Post#143 » by BEazy » Sat Jan 3, 2015 6:08 am

Hope Lin leaves this summer. He just doesn't fit this team.
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Re: GT: Lakers (10-22) vs Grizzlies (23-8) | 1/2/15 | 7:30 PM 

Post#144 » by Penberthy » Sat Jan 3, 2015 6:09 am

Davis and Lin get season highs. Kobe almost another trip dub, and we still secure the loss. I can take that every game.
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Re: GT: Lakers (10-22) vs Grizzlies (23-8) | 1/2/15 | 7:30 PM 

Post#145 » by BallAboveAll » Sat Jan 3, 2015 6:19 am

Trailing Udrih off of screens was a bad idea he was getting that midrange off at wlll.

The team is making improvements. You can slowly see it. First half defense was pretty good.

Wish we could solve something with this third quarter funk.
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Post#146 » by kblo247 » Sat Jan 3, 2015 6:21 am

LebronLover23 wrote:Man I blame Jeremy Lin. Sure he had a good scoring night and made a couple of plays, but he got lit up by Udrih during that 2nd half spurt. Mike Conley is expected, but Udrih... really??

udrih destroyed him the fourth quarter in Memphis too ... for smoke reason he trails behind him because he runs him off the line :crazy: :noway:
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Re: GT: Lakers (10-22) vs Grizzlies (23-8) | 1/2/15 | 7:30 PM 

Post#147 » by NoseBleedLakers » Sat Jan 3, 2015 6:22 am



LOL :banghead:

Dudes were so close again in this one, but fall short as what has usually happened in most games this season :nonono:
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Post#148 » by tenten » Sat Jan 3, 2015 6:27 am

Any comments on scott telling Lin to wait till 10 sec to foul?

Why?
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Re: GT: Lakers (10-22) vs Grizzlies (23-8) | 1/2/15 | 7:30 PM 

Post#149 » by crazyeights » Sat Jan 3, 2015 6:29 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/KevinDing/status/551260860723634176[/tweet]

Maybe the timeout situation? Didn't want to lengthen the game too much? IDK....
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Post#150 » by bws94 » Sat Jan 3, 2015 6:37 am

Kobe played great, really well in this game. Ed was great but it was unfortunate he got into foul trouble. Not crazy about Young's game. Lakers have to learn how to defend the pick and roll better, that's why Uldrich lit it up, not really Lin who did fine on him when he didn't get the picks. Lin played like he's capable of, but still not his A game. Boozer can't stop making dumb fouls. The adjustments weren't there from coach. Grizz's started the 3rd with an adjustment in longer T Prince and made the right adjustments. I'm baffled why coach wanted Lin to wait till 10 seconds to foul late game, Kobe did the right thing. Too bad it's an L, it was real close and team played quite well through most of the game.
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Post#151 » by kblo247 » Sat Jan 3, 2015 6:40 am

crazyeights wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/KevinDing/status/551260860723634176[/tweet]

Maybe the timeout situation? Didn't want to lengthen the game too much? IDK....

Clock was damn near even ... and ... Lin was doing nothing. Okay if y6oure going to waste time, but at least try to steal the ball over looking
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Post#152 » by bws94 » Sat Jan 3, 2015 6:45 am

kblo247 wrote:
crazyeights wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/KevinDing/status/551260860723634176[/tweet]

Maybe the timeout situation? Didn't want to lengthen the game too much? IDK....

Clock was damn near even ... and ... Lin was doing nothing. Okay if y6oure going to waste time, but at least try to steal the ball over looking


So, Conley can get around him if he gambles?
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Post#153 » by tenten » Sat Jan 3, 2015 6:47 am

kblo247 wrote:
crazyeights wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/KevinDing/status/551260860723634176[/tweet]

Maybe the timeout situation? Didn't want to lengthen the game too much? IDK....

Clock was damn near even ... and ... Lin was doing nothing. Okay if y6oure going to waste time, but at least try to steal the ball over looking


Go back and watch again, Lin was looking back and forth at Scott and Kobe because they are telling him different things. The only player that dears to defy Scott on this team is kobe
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Post#154 » by bws94 » Sat Jan 3, 2015 6:52 am

What's wrong with Hill? He hasn't been playing very well in most recent games.
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Post#155 » by ArC_man » Sat Jan 3, 2015 6:58 am

Completely disagree with waiting so long to foul.
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Post#156 » by kblo247 » Sat Jan 3, 2015 6:59 am

bws94 wrote:
kblo247 wrote:
crazyeights wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/KevinDing/status/551260860723634176[/tweet]

Maybe the timeout situation? Didn't want to lengthen the game too much? IDK....

Clock was damn near even ... and ... Lin was doing nothing. Okay if y6oure going to waste time, but at least try to steal the ball over looking


So, Conley can get around him if he gambles?

Why let him dribbling a spot uncontested till its down to 10? That's not fn logical. You trap, press, try to steal. You don't stand 7 feet away and just watch though. It makes no sense when you are down to just watch a guy dribble it out. You aren't extending the game at all. And Conley won't try to beat him there one on one, he'd protect the ball with his hip while keeping a dribble if there isn't a trap like a starting PG that's battle tested would.

Smush had that common basketball sense ...its how we won game 4
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Post#157 » by Romerowned » Sat Jan 3, 2015 7:01 am

Waiting to foul is a terrible idea. Gives you less time to get a good shot to tie or win the game.
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Post#158 » by kblo247 » Sat Jan 3, 2015 7:02 am

Scott is stupid
Lin followed what he was told, but was lazy playing that far off
Kobe was the only one with any awareness, hell even Wes, Ed, and March all look at a screaming Kobe .. We had already wasted 6 seconds so we needed to do something even it was just press up some
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Post#159 » by Little General » Sat Jan 3, 2015 7:16 am

http://www.ocregister.com/lakers/grizzl ... -didn.html
Why Lakers didn't foul earlier at end of loss to Grizzlies

In the way that games come to be defined by single plays, so was Friday's 109-106 loss to the Memphis Grizzlies.

For a journey into the many things a coach is considering when making any decision, one needed only to listen in on Byron Scott's postgame press conference when asked about the Lakers letting 12 seconds run off the clock while trailing by one before fouling Mike Conley.

Conley went to the line with 12.6 seconds left, setting off a wild and entertaining finish that concluded when Bryant's game-tying 3 was off the mark at the buzzer.

To quickly recap Scott's dilemmma with fouling: Bryant made a 3-pointer with 24.2 seconds left that cut the Grizzlies' lead to 106-105. Were the Grizzlies to run down the shot clock, the Lakers would have had just .2 seconds to score. So conventional wisdom is to foul to get the ball back.

However, Lin was was guarding Conley, and Scott was yelling from the bench not to foul. Bryant, standing at the baseline, grew exasperated and ran up and fouled the Memphis point guard.

“I was asking (Scott) if I should foul and he said no,” Lin said. “I asked two or three more times, he kept saying no. Then Kobe came in and fouled.”

Scott wanted the Lakers to wait until about 10 seconds remained, so they would get the last possesssion.

"I had told (Lin) to wait until they got past half court," Scott said, "and we wanted to foul abou the 10 second mark, he was trying to listen to me while I’m talking to him and Kobe ran up and made the foul. I told Kobe that was my judgment, just to hold off for a moment."

He later added: "I’m also looking at my timeouts, how many I have left. Can I save a few of those timeouts? With 20 seconds you foul, we go down, we score – or we miss – then we’ve got to go down again, call another timeout to get another play down. So I try to weigh all those things. I was down to my last two timeouts."


In other words, if the Lakers had fouled Conley earlier in the possession, Scott thought they might get caught up in a situation where they would have to foul on multiple possessions, drying up his cache of timeouts and putting the Lakers at a disadvantage.

His strategy was to let the Grizzlies go up by three -- Conley split the free throws, so the margin was two -- and get one last shot to tie.

And it nearly worked, if Davis had converted the and-1 possibility -- or even made both of his free throws -- the plan would have fallen into place. Then the Lakers would have had to just play defense either for overtime or a win.
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Post#160 » by bws94 » Sat Jan 3, 2015 7:27 am

Why does coach like Lin inbounding the ball late in games?

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