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Re: Glen Rice Jr. 

Post#661 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Jan 8, 2015 3:35 am

TGW wrote:Yet another horrible move by this FO. The guy will get picked up and succeed somewhere else.


All I have to say about Rice is that Nate Wolters is still with the Bucks.
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Re: Glen Rice Jr. 

Post#662 » by FAH1223 » Thu Jan 8, 2015 3:54 am

TGW wrote:Yet another horrible move by this FO. The guy will get picked up and succeed somewhere else.


He was great value in Round 2.

He will succeed elsewhere with better coaches
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Re: Glen Rice Jr. 

Post#663 » by keynote » Thu Jan 8, 2015 3:54 am

TGW wrote:Yet another horrible move by this FO. The guy will get picked up and succeed somewhere else.


If he does, it'll be with a completely different game than he has now.
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Re: Glen Rice Jr. 

Post#664 » by Bigwig » Thu Jan 8, 2015 5:11 am

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I though they were talking about Windows 95, XP and Windows 7. Sounds like there is still a window open in the future.


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Re: Glen Rice Jr. 

Post#665 » by hands11 » Thu Jan 8, 2015 10:14 am

hands11 Sun Jun 30, 2013 wrote:But the good news is that Wittman is the HC. I expect Randy talked with the young man and he knows the drill. Randy isn't putting up with non sense. We saw that with Dray. Randy will suspend your ass if he sees you are detrimental to the teams goals.

Hey. Caron Butler had a questionable past but he turned it around. People make mistakes and some turn their lives around.

I don't know nearly enough about him to know if this will work out better then keeping Wolters or drafting Muscala, Iverson, or Withey. But I do know it was added risk. I do know it was a gun thing and that seems to not pass the sniff test for some of us Wizard fans. How does EG not get that?

Why bring that into your locker room ? How does he fit with your other locker room players ?

I do know we could have used the help at PG and we needed a young long rebounding defensive center on the cheap more then a 3rd SG to replace C Martin. I do know Webster getting signed is in question and this just add more questions. So leaving his back ground out of it, the pick still doesn't make sense. Add to it that the team just cleaned up its act with questionable character players, and more specially it was a gun incident that lead to blowing the team up, and it just makes even less sense.

Character is a skill. It takes development and decision making like other basketball skills and EG has a history of over looking that for what he see as project upside players. That's EG.

Is the team better situated to handle a players like this now. Absolutely.
Was it a smart idea to select a player like that over other choices. Nope.

See, I don't think EG had as much control over picks like Beal and Otto as I think he has over later picks. Ted isn't going to give him full control to blow the #1 or #3 picks. I can see him giving him that control over the later picks. So hopefully this was a Ted test. See if EG has learned anything since he took over. See if he can stick with the formula of high character players. And it only cost you a 2nd pick to find out.

It would be funny if when its all said and done, its a 2nd round pick that ends up being EGs nail in the coffin.


Well, that worked out well.
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Re: Glen Rice Jr. 

Post#666 » by Dat2U » Thu Jan 8, 2015 1:25 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
TGW wrote:Yet another horrible move by this FO. The guy will get picked up and succeed somewhere else.


All I have to say about Rice is that Nate Wolters is still with the Bucks.


..With Bucks, doing nothing more than taking up a roster space because unlike the Wizards, they're not seeking to add a bunch of 30+ vets but lets not act like he's even playing well. If your going to argue about someone until your blue in the face, at least pick someone that is actually is somewhat worth arguing about. Paul Millsap was worth arguing about. Kenneth Faried was worth arguing about. Nate freaking Wolters or a guy like Charles Jenkins simply aren't worth the fuss.
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Re: Glen Rice Jr. 

Post#667 » by gambitx777 » Thu Jan 8, 2015 2:36 pm

TGW wrote:Yet another horrible move by this FO. The guy will get picked up and succeed somewhere else.

Yeah somewhere in China, Where he can take 38 shots a game making 38% of them and be called a super star.

Sure could he have been beals main back up, maybe. But we all saw it, he did not want to be a back up. there was time for him available. every minute that temple played could have been his. If he was truly worth the trouble he was reportedly causing, he would have gotten those minutes. This team works right now because they like each other and want to play with each other, every one on this team genuinely likes each other, its almost like a family and if rice was bringing any turmoil at all he needed to go. Now should Gooden and temple be here talent wise, no, but they are glue guys, and as much as it pains me to see them sitting on the bench when there are other guys available or on the street who are better players than they are, It's better than seeing the team fall to pieces because we brought in a bunch of knuckle heads and can't or won't get ride of them. We can complain all we want about E.G. picking him in the first place, when there were better players available who are being productive in the league. but cutting him, with the way this team is built and functions, was not a mistake. No matter how well he players or where he does it at.
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Re: Glen Rice Jr. 

Post#668 » by Dat2U » Thu Jan 8, 2015 3:11 pm

gambitx777 wrote:
TGW wrote:Yet another horrible move by this FO. The guy will get picked up and succeed somewhere else.

Yeah somewhere in China, Where he can take 38 shots a game making 38% of them and be called a super star.

Sure could he have been beals main back up, maybe. But we all saw it, he did not want to be a back up. there was time for him available. every minute that temple played could have been his. If he was truly worth the trouble he was reportedly causing, he would have gotten those minutes. This team works right now because they like each other and want to play with each other, every one on this team genuinely likes each other, its almost like a family and if rice was bringing any turmoil at all he needed to go. Now should Gooden and temple be here talent wise, no, but they are glue guys, and as much as it pains me to see them sitting on the bench when there are other guys available or on the street who are better players than they are, It's better than seeing the team fall to pieces because we brought in a bunch of knuckle heads and can't or won't get ride of them. We can complain all we want about E.G. picking him in the first place, when there were better players available who are being productive in the league. but cutting him, with the way this team is built and functions, was not a mistake. No matter how well he players or where he does it at.


It seems like you know something that hasn't been reported?
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Re: Glen Rice Jr. 

Post#669 » by gambitx777 » Thu Jan 8, 2015 3:50 pm

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gambitx777 wrote:
TGW wrote:Yet another horrible move by this FO. The guy will get picked up and succeed somewhere else.

Yeah somewhere in China, Where he can take 38 shots a game making 38% of them and be called a super star.

Sure could he have been beals main back up, maybe. But we all saw it, he did not want to be a back up. there was time for him available. every minute that temple played could have been his. If he was truly worth the trouble he was reportedly causing, he would have gotten those minutes. This team works right now because they like each other and want to play with each other, every one on this team genuinely likes each other, its almost like a family and if rice was bringing any turmoil at all he needed to go. Now should Gooden and temple be here talent wise, no, but they are glue guys, and as much as it pains me to see them sitting on the bench when there are other guys available or on the street who are better players than they are, It's better than seeing the team fall to pieces because we brought in a bunch of knuckle heads and can't or won't get ride of them. We can complain all we want about E.G. picking him in the first place, when there were better players available who are being productive in the league. but cutting him, with the way this team is built and functions, was not a mistake. No matter how well he players or where he does it at.


It seems like you know something that hasn't been reported?

Not really, it was reported that he was very resistant to what he was being told to do and how they were telling him to play and that he had attitude issues. The point remains that he won't be missed and he will be a great player in China.
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Re: Glen Rice Jr. 

Post#670 » by AFM » Thu Jan 8, 2015 3:51 pm

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gambitx777 wrote:
TGW wrote:Yet another horrible move by this FO. The guy will get picked up and succeed somewhere else.

Yeah somewhere in China, Where he can take 38 shots a game making 38% of them and be called a super star.

Sure could he have been beals main back up, maybe. But we all saw it, he did not want to be a back up. there was time for him available. every minute that temple played could have been his. If he was truly worth the trouble he was reportedly causing, he would have gotten those minutes. This team works right now because they like each other and want to play with each other, every one on this team genuinely likes each other, its almost like a family and if rice was bringing any turmoil at all he needed to go. Now should Gooden and temple be here talent wise, no, but they are glue guys, and as much as it pains me to see them sitting on the bench when there are other guys available or on the street who are better players than they are, It's better than seeing the team fall to pieces because we brought in a bunch of knuckle heads and can't or won't get ride of them. We can complain all we want about E.G. picking him in the first place, when there were better players available who are being productive in the league. but cutting him, with the way this team is built and functions, was not a mistake. No matter how well he players or where he does it at.


It seems like you know something that hasn't been reported?

Before I saw your post I was getting ready to quote the exact same bolded parts.
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Re: Glen Rice Jr. 

Post#671 » by Dat2U » Thu Jan 8, 2015 4:09 pm

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Dat2U wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:Yeah somewhere in China, Where he can take 38 shots a game making 38% of them and be called a super star.

Sure could he have been beals main back up, maybe. But we all saw it, he did not want to be a back up. there was time for him available. every minute that temple played could have been his. If he was truly worth the trouble he was reportedly causing, he would have gotten those minutes. This team works right now because they like each other and want to play with each other, every one on this team genuinely likes each other, its almost like a family and if rice was bringing any turmoil at all he needed to go. Now should Gooden and temple be here talent wise, no, but they are glue guys, and as much as it pains me to see them sitting on the bench when there are other guys available or on the street who are better players than they are, It's better than seeing the team fall to pieces because we brought in a bunch of knuckle heads and can't or won't get ride of them. We can complain all we want about E.G. picking him in the first place, when there were better players available who are being productive in the league. but cutting him, with the way this team is built and functions, was not a mistake. No matter how well he players or where he does it at.


It seems like you know something that hasn't been reported?

Not really, it was reported that he was very resistant to what he was being told to do and how they were telling him to play and that he had attitude issues. The point remains that he won't be missed and he will be a great player in China.


It was reported he had the incident with Witt on the sidelines. What other incidents or reporting of such are you referring to?
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Re: Glen Rice Jr. 

Post#672 » by FAH1223 » Thu Jan 8, 2015 4:44 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
TGW wrote:Yet another horrible move by this FO. The guy will get picked up and succeed somewhere else.


All I have to say about Rice is that Nate Wolters is still with the Bucks.


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Re: Glen Rice Jr. 

Post#673 » by closg00 » Thu Jan 8, 2015 4:58 pm

Wolters was a 4th string PG with the Bucks
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Post#674 » by closg00 » Thu Jan 8, 2015 5:01 pm

Rice had words with Wittman on the sideline during a Nov. 7 game in Toronto that sealed his fate. However, he was said to have not used foul language nor did he yell at the coach. He just objected to his observation in front of the team -- and the TV audience. Rice, however, wasn't Jordan Crawford who stewed in anger on the bench and didn't enjoy seeing teammates succeed. He wasn't a locker room cancer. The situation here just didn't work out.

"You definitely could feel it but you could understand his competitive nature, wanting to be on the court and that permeating negatively throughout the team? That did not happen with Glen Rice," Temple said. "You have some guys that don't play and it creates a negative aura around the team. He wasn't a guy like that. He'd be the first guy off the bench when he wasn't dressing, clapping, he's laughing and joking around a lot in the locker room. That's just the type of guy he is. He did a good job of showing he's a team guy.

"It's tough for guys like us. We don't get the red carpet treatment. Glen is a good guy. He's going to bounce back from this."

http://www.csnwashington.com/basketball ... -glen-rice

I hope this puts to rest all of the innuendo and spin about Rice's attitude.
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Re: Glen Rice Jr. 

Post#675 » by DCZards » Thu Jan 8, 2015 5:19 pm

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Rice had words with Wittman on the sideline during a Nov. 7 game in Toronto that sealed his fate. However, he was said to have not used foul language nor did he yell at the coach. He just objected to his observation in front of the team -- and the TV audience. Rice, however, wasn't Jordan Crawford who stewed in anger on the bench and didn't enjoy seeing teammates succeed. He wasn't a locker room cancer. The situation here just didn't work out.

"You definitely could feel it but you could understand his competitive nature, wanting to be on the court and that permeating negatively throughout the team? That did not happen with Glen Rice," Temple said. "You have some guys that don't play and it creates a negative aura around the team. He wasn't a guy like that. He'd be the first guy off the bench when he wasn't dressing, clapping, he's laughing and joking around a lot in the locker room. That's just the type of guy he is. He did a good job of showing he's a team guy.

"It's tough for guys like us. We don't get the red carpet treatment. Glen is a good guy. He's going to bounce back from this."

http://www.csnwashington.com/basketball ... -glen-rice

I hope this puts to rest all of the innuendo and spin about Rice's attitude.


You left out this very important and telling sentence from the same article: "Aside from the development that Rice needs as a player, the feeling in the locker room was that he was a great teammate who did have issues being coached,"

I was one of Rice's biggest fans when he was drafted by the Zards...even vehemently defended him against CCJ's criticisms about his character. But you'd have to be pretty naive to believe that the clash we saw between Witt and Rice during the Toronto game was an isolated incident.
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Re: Glen Rice Jr. 

Post#676 » by TGW » Thu Jan 8, 2015 5:19 pm

FAH1223 wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
TGW wrote:Yet another horrible move by this FO. The guy will get picked up and succeed somewhere else.


All I have to say about Rice is that Nate Wolters is still with the Bucks.


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Re: Glen Rice Jr. 

Post#677 » by AFM » Thu Jan 8, 2015 5:27 pm

Would be some perfect irony if we signed Wolters
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Re: Glen Rice Jr. 

Post#678 » by nate33 » Thu Jan 8, 2015 5:39 pm

TGW wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
All I have to say about Rice is that Nate Wolters is still with the Bucks.


Not anymore!
[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/553229196848537600[/tweet]


:lol:

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Sorry CCJ, but you gotta admit, this is pretty damn funny.
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Re: Glen Rice Jr. 

Post#679 » by Ruzious » Thu Jan 8, 2015 5:45 pm

AFM wrote:Would be some perfect irony if we signed Wolters

I'd consider him, but he's probably about 10 years too young for Ernie's tastes.
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Post#680 » by Severn Hoos » Thu Jan 8, 2015 5:49 pm

nate33 wrote:
TGW wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:
Not anymore!
[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/553229196848537600[/tweet]


:lol:

:lol:

Sorry CCJ, but you gotta admit, this is pretty damn funny.


Especially when added to this from Dat:

Dat wrote: [Wolters is still with the] Bucks, doing nothing more than taking up a roster space because unlike the Wizards, they're not seeking to add a bunch of 30+ vets...


Not meaning to pile on, just that sometimes the unintended humor is the best!
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