Lopez for Reggie Jackson falls apart; Nets acquire Thad Young for KG (UPDATE: Page 58)

Prokorov · Post #161 » by **Prokorov** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:06 am

Man im so jacked right now....

i wanted lance on this team someway somehow in the offseason. now to get him, on a great contract and shipping mr. softee out in the process would make my weekend.

really hope this doesnt fall through.

enetric · Post #162 » by **enetric** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:32 am

I have no problem with anyone who is down on Brook Lopez. But I'm just going to say it. This trade is little more than a salary dump.

It's not just that Lance Stephenson is a bad guy its that Lance Stephenson is not a good basketball player!

This guy was in an ideal situation last year. Played well in the role that was asked of him. I can't believe how many people are talking about what they think he is from Indiana rather than noticing what he was in half a season in Charlotte where they want to give him away at all costs.

I just want to know for all those of you excited about this guy what is your over/under amount of games before you treat him like the next Travis Outlaw?

It's amazing to me how many of you are content to covet other people's trash on the tantalizing possibility for what they could be but so easy to dismiss any up side of your own players when they don't live up to your expectations. The shiny unwrapped presents under the tree are always so exciting until you open them up and they turn out to be a crappy pair of socks.

Prokorov · Post #163 » by **Prokorov** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:37 am

enetric wrote:I have no problem with anyone who is down on Brook Lopez. But I'm just going to say it. This trade is little more than a salary dump.

It's not just that Lance Stephenson is a bad guy its that Lance Stephenson is not a good basketball player!

This guy was in an ideal situation last year. Played well in the role that was asked of him. I can't believe how many people are talking about what they think he is from Indiana rather than noticing what he was in half a season in Charlotte where they want to give him away at all costs.

I just want to know for all those of you excited about this guy what is your over/under amount of games before you treat him like the next Travis Outlaw?

It's amazing to me how many of you are content to covet other people's trash on the tantalizing possibility for what they could be but so easy to dismiss any up side of your own players when they don't live up to your expectations. The shiny unwrapped presents under the tree are always so exciting until you open them up and they turn out to be a crappy pair of socks.

lance is a really good player. he is talented, he defends, he rebounds, he hustles. if his offense in indy was fools gold im fine with it because of all the other things he brings and the pace at which he can play in is more conducive to what hollins is trying to do.

even if he is as bad as he was in charlotte, its still a monumental upgrade to the euros we have at SG. and lopez is addition by subtraction.

Post #164 » by **NyCeEvO** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:39 am

enetric wrote:I have no problem with anyone who is down on Brook Lopez. But I'm just going to say it. This trade is little more than a salary dump.

It's not just that Lance Stephenson is a bad guy its that Lance Stephenson is not a good basketball player!

This guy was in an ideal situation last year. Played well in the role that was asked of him. I can't believe how many people are talking about what they think he is from Indiana rather than noticing what he was in half a season in Charlotte where they want to give him away at all costs.

I just want to know for all those of you excited about this guy what is your over/under amount of games before you treat him like the next Travis Outlaw?

It's amazing to me how many of you are content to covet other people's trash on the tantalizing possibility for what they could be but so easy to dismiss any up side of your own players when they don't live up to your expectations. The shiny unwrapped presents under the tree are always so exciting until you open them up and they turn out to be a crappy pair of socks.

C'mon E...don't you know? The grass is always greener.

kerry kittles · Post #165 » by **kerry kittles** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:43 am

enetric wrote:I have no problem with anyone who is down on Brook Lopez. But I'm just going to say it. This trade is little more than a salary dump.

It's not just that Lance Stephenson is a bad guy its that Lance Stephenson is not a good basketball player!

This guy was in an ideal situation last year. Played well in the role that was asked of him. I can't believe how many people are talking about what they think he is from Indiana rather than noticing what he was in half a season in Charlotte where they want to give him away at all costs.

I just want to know for all those of you excited about this guy what is your over/under amount of games before you treat him like the next Travis Outlaw?

It's amazing to me how many of you are content to covet other people's trash on the tantalizing possibility for what they could be but so easy to dismiss any up side of your own players when they don't live up to your expectations. The shiny unwrapped presents under the tree are always so exciting until you open them up and they turn out to be a crappy pair of socks.

It's a disaster with Brook so if it's a likely disaster with Lance then we're in the same position. We're still paying outlaw, thankfully Lance's deal expires in 2016 making this low risk.
Brook wasn't going to be here past 2016 as this roster needs a complete overhaul.

Paradise · Post #166 » by **Paradise** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:47 am

enetric wrote:I have no problem with anyone who is down on Brook Lopez. But I'm just going to say it. This trade is little more than a salary dump.

It's not just that Lance Stephenson is a bad guy its that Lance Stephenson is not a good basketball player!

This guy was in an ideal situation last year. Played well in the role that was asked of him. I can't believe how many people are talking about what they think he is from Indiana rather than noticing what he was in half a season in Charlotte where they want to give him away at all costs.

I just want to know for all those of you excited about this guy what is your over/under amount of games before you treat him like the next Travis Outlaw?

It's amazing to me how many of you are content to covet other people's trash on the tantalizing possibility for what they could be but so easy to dismiss any up side of your own players when they don't live up to your expectations. The shiny unwrapped presents under the tree are always so exciting until you open them up and they turn out to be a crappy pair of socks.

Lance is a good player with a ton of talent.

His skillset just doesn't seem to fit in Charlotte's roster construction and instead of dealing with it professionally, he chooses to be immature about it.

I think we all just look at it as another safe gamble like Blatche was. Same reputation across the league but he manged to mature and stay in line for the most part.

jeff1624 · Post #167 » by **jeff1624** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:06 am

Prokorov wrote:
jeff1624 wrote:Woj says the Lakers are interested. Hey LA, I wouldn't mind a Randle - Brook swap.

If not then please no. Brook needs to go to a good team. Dude doesn't deserve the sh*tshow that is the lakers.

Lopez doesnt deserve anything... he gt a max contract, was injured for most of it, and played like an uninterested pussy the enitre time.

i hope they trade him to siberia

I sincerely hope Brook stole your girl or killed your dog, because if not your obsession with hating him is unhealthy. Get over it.

VCRJKidd15 · Post #168 » by **VCRJKidd15** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:10 am

If Lance gets traded to this team he's probably still going to be meh...I just hope Brook goes to OKC so I can root for a good team to win the chip.

Paradise · Post #169 » by **Paradise** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:13 am

I would like to hear the other offers across the league first

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jeff1624 · Post #170 » by **jeff1624** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:14 am

VCRJKidd15 wrote:If Lance gets traded to this team he's probably still going to be meh...I just hope Brook goes to OKC so I can root for a good team to win the chip.

Agreed. The disdain some Nets "fans" have for Brook is annoying. You'd think he was the biggest bust in the history of the team when he's been our best draft pick in 15 years.

DarkXaero · Post #171 » by **DarkXaero** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:15 am

Nets need more than Lance. Especially if Jack is going to Charlotte, need a good backup PG badly. OKC should give up Reggie, it's not like they're going to re-sign him anyway.

VCRJKidd15 · Post #172 » by **VCRJKidd15** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:18 am

jeff1624 wrote:
VCRJKidd15 wrote:If Lance gets traded to this team he's probably still going to be meh...I just hope Brook goes to OKC so I can root for a good team to win the chip.

Agreed. The disdain some Nets "fans" have for Brook is annoying. You'd think he was the biggest bust in the history of the team when he's been our best draft pick in 15 years.

I feel bad for him he's gone through some sh*t as a player on this team. Deron deserves more blame than anybody.

VCRJKidd15 · Post #173 » by **VCRJKidd15** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:19 am

It would be stupid if the Nets can't get a pick out of this if they're giving up Lopez and Jack.

Paradise · Post #174 » by **Paradise** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:31 am

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Wow :lol:

F3LON · Post #175 » by **F3LON** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:34 am

DarkXaero wrote:If Denver is interested then I'd prefer Afflalo over Lance.

Afflalo is a league average player.

Lance has top 20 player talent.

Dont confuse risk with talent. We could easily find a player like Afflalo. Finding a player who at his best could be the top defender at his position and only 24 is worth the risk.

F3LON · Post #176 » by **F3LON** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:38 am

Paradise wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/555956382252683264[/tweet]
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Wow

WOW is right. Those are some unbelievably low ball offers. It seems the real offers are coming to the table. Denver, OKC and Charlotte.

I think we could get Lance for Jack and Mirza. We should try to get Denver to part with Faried. Rumor has it that he isnt well liked in the organization. He is slightly overpaid but a Plumlee/Faried frontcourt would be awesome. They play at such a fast pace for their positions.

F3LON · Post #177 » by **F3LON** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:52 am

enetric wrote:I have no problem with anyone who is down on Brook Lopez. But I'm just going to say it. This trade is little more than a salary dump.

It's not just that Lance Stephenson is a bad guy its that Lance Stephenson is not a good basketball player!

This guy was in an ideal situation last year. Played well in the role that was asked of him. I can't believe how many people are talking about what they think he is from Indiana rather than noticing what he was in half a season in Charlotte where they want to give him away at all costs.

I just want to know for all those of you excited about this guy what is your over/under amount of games before you treat him like the next Travis Outlaw?

It's amazing to me how many of you are content to covet other people's trash on the tantalizing possibility for what they could be but so easy to dismiss any up side of your own players when they don't live up to your expectations. The shiny unwrapped presents under the tree are always so exciting until you open them up and they turn out to be a crappy pair of socks.

You do realize that Lance is only 24 years old. Some players dont mature until their mid 20's. Bringing up his Charlotte numbers is foolish. He never fit in there. There team lacks veteran leadership like he had in Indy. He was a poor fit next to Walker and Henderson also. Who was spacing the floor on the Hornets in that lineup exactly?

Fortunately for us, Lance fits well between JJ and DWill. Both DWIll and JJ are good spot up shooters and could use Lance's dribble drives to get them uncontested looks. Lance is also very good in PnR which is what Plumlee does best.

I understand that Lance has his flaws. His game is similar in a lot of ways to Jack in that he dribbles a lot and is prone to turning the ball over. They both lack a quick first step but get by with excellent change of speed/hesitation moves. The big difference is that Lance is 6'6' 235lbs. He is able to take it all the way to the rim and finish through contact.

IMO he could be a 15 PT / 7 Reb / 5-6 Ast on this team.

Shook Jones · Post #178 » by **Shook Jones** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:56 am

If we only get back Lance and Perkins I will be very disappointed.

OKC knows it needs to make a move to take that next step. Hold out for REggie!!! Send them a Euro to sweeten.

Post #179 » by **CalamityX12** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:04 am

Lol at Miami.... They can suck off lol....

I'm intrigued what better offers we could get from Denver though....

But stop wasting time n get lance here

Shook Jones · Post #180 » by **Shook Jones** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:10 am

Woj bomb no deal tonite. seems BKN is holding out which is a good thing, means they want other players or picks or another team to flip perkins with.