More trade value: Giannis Antetokounmpo or Ty Lawson?

[BBallFreak]

The subject has come up, and I'd like to hear the majority opinion.

[LoyalKing]

My answer is : It depends on the team.

For a contending team that needs a PG it's Lawson. For a bad team trying to develop young players Giannis.

Lawson is a very good starting PG. He can drive, he can shoot, he can pass. 17ppg/10apg this season and he is a good 3p shooter.

I mean, can you imagine Lawson with Houston ? I am sure Houston would be willing to spend more on Lawson than on Giannis.

But Giannis probably hold a lot of value for the Bucks. Dude is only 20 y/o and he's already playing really well for someone with his age. Athletic freak with a ridiculous wingspan and quite good defensively. They have every reason to deny a trade for him, even for more established players.

[AdrianDoorbal]

I'd say Giannis on potential alone. With Ty Lawson you know what you have or what you're getting, with Giannis there's still that element of the unknown that is incredibly intriguing.

[SalemStoner]

Giannis is younger, bigger and plays multiple positions. Oh and he's still on a rookie deal.

[Knosh]

I can't think of a realistic scenario in the current NBA environment where I would give up Giannis for Lawson. I could see giving up Lawson for Giannis in the right circumstances. So I guess that means Giannis has more value?

But it's all about the current NBA environment. Lawson would probably make my top 10 in PGs if I had to make a list, but then there are 5 guys outside who have a case for being in as well and after that is a bunch of guys who aren't as good, but are close enough to make a guy like Lawson realtively unexiting.

[Dcebucks11]

lawson is better player obviously and a great guard.. giannis is a great prospect

yeah i agree with loyalking, it depends on the teams need.

[ReKon]

We re talking about value.In an era where pretty much 90% of the teams have a pg who could be an All Star given the right circumstances but wings like Hayward(though i like him as a player) get paid the max wings have more value so we ll start by that

Lawson is 7 years older than Giannis and he has 6 years of NBA experience under his belt.Giannis is 20 and has 2.So Lawson is pretty much a done product and Giannis has many years to develop.And Giannis potential is way bigger than Lawson s current ability

Being a Bucks fan doesn t mean i m biased.I think i have presented some valid points.I also don t hate on Lawson he s a pretty good point guard despite his limitations.But people need to understand this.Giannis is already a great defender and he s puting up a highly efficient 12 ppg without taking shots.The defences know he will drive every single time and he still puts 12 ppg.So watch what happens when he gets a legitimate mid range/3point shot.Try and guard that

[HartfordWhalers]

My answer is : It depends on the team.

For a contending team that needs a PG it's Lawson. For a bad team trying to develop young players Giannis.

Lawson is a very good starting PG. He can drive, he can shoot, he can pass. 17ppg/10apg this season and he is a good 3p shooter.

I mean, can you imagine Lawson with Houston ? I am sure Houston would be willing to spend more on Lawson than on Giannis.

But Giannis probably hold a lot of value for the Bucks. Dude is only 20 y/o and he's already playing really well for someone with his age. Athletic freak with a ridiculous wingspan and quite good defensively. They have every reason to deny a trade for him, even for more established players.

When I post one of these, I put forth some boilerplate that says something like, trade value as the best reasonable offer you might get for a player if they were traded. Best as no need to take a crappy offer from a team where they are a bad fit, and reasonable so no one decides that they are trading with Billy King, and can get more value than anyone should ever expect.

With most players, different teams will have different reasons to prefer one or the other. But that doesn't mean that you cannot compare what they might bring back, even if its from entirely different types of teams.

I think this is one of the more interesting ones of these, and would go Giannis, but only slightly personally.

[WhatsaTDot]

Landslide as expected with people kindly softening the blow for a long time poster and former mod.

[ReKon]

It just hit me but i do believe that most of those player value polls(or some of them at least) have been about Bucks players.Giannis/Jabari or Schroeder,Jabari or someone else(i really don t remember i think he had a poll of his own) and now Giannis or Lawson.Does this mean that as a fanbase we overvalue our players or other teams undervalue our players?

[BBallFreak]

Landslide as expected with people kindly softening the blow for a long time poster and former mod.

Obnoxious responses aside, I still don't agree. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think Alphabet ever reaches Lawson's level...

[WhatsaTDot]

Thats fine for you to not agree; a clear majority however do agree. As for what you consider my obnoxious response, a 2014 ballboy posting a similar thread would get a much different response than the one you've received.

[BBallFreak]

Thats fine for you to not agree; a clear majority however do agree. As for what you consider my obnoxious response, a 2014 ballboy posting a similar thread would get a much different response than the one you've received.

Seriously, stop trying to bait me into something.

And the poll is young, still. Just because its in your favor now doesn't mean it will stay that way...

[WhatsaTDot]

I'm not trying to bait you into anything; I'm stating the obvious. If you're catching feels, that's not my fault. You genuinely don't think you might get different treatment with the title retired mod under your name?

[loserX]

Let's keep the conversation on players, not posters, please.

[bondom34]

Giannis.

For a sec I thought the title said "Thannasis" and was starting to laugh.

But its Giannis.

[shrink]

Alphabet for me.

Ty Lawson is a very good, and often under-appreciated player, but very good players are not the life-blood of the NBA -- superstars are.

I don't disagree that the kid may never be as good as Lawson, but his potenital to be much better would get him better trade offers.

[Mr Swagtastic]

As a Toronto Raptors fan I easily take Giannis here. He is the perfect 3 for us. A great prospect who fits our core and I think could be a combo of Pippen and Marion

[jayjaysee]

I take G.

Scroll through the teams in the league and see how many you'd think would want more of the two, give up more for, or pick first in they were somehow free agents with their current contracts.

I'm only seeing possibly Houston and Miami in my head, if they thought Lawson would win them a title.. Any other team realistically?

Possibly Denver fans who just love their guy?

Not a knock on Lawson, who is a top 10 PG in my eyes - but the top 15-20 PG's are all good enough.

G is just an amazing prospect. Maybe cause he is in Milwaukee people don't realize. Kind of like Wiggins/Vonleh no longer being as good of prospects in a lot of people's eyes because of where they play.

[AussieBuck]

As a Toronto Raptors fan I easily take Giannis here. He is the perfect 3 for us. A great prospect who fits our core and I think could be a combo of Pippen and Marion

You'd be even more keen once you figure out he's a long term 4 who should be able to play the 5 too.