Best futures of Bad Teams

[aal04]

Its the lakers, its always been the lakers.

They dont need to tank. they dont need to draft well.

Players will come to them like flys to chit. Look at the signings they have had. D12, CP3, Shaq, Gasol etc. After shaq left they had like 1-2 down years, then back into contention with some magical signings.

Lakers will win a ring before any of the other teams on that list most probably within the next 5-7 years.

[woosah]

love that future of Oli and Nuk.

[JN]

Brooklyn than New York are in the worst shape. It's should be pretty much expected that the Knicks will waste all that cap space.

[Amish Mafioso]

3. LA-Which FA's are coming? If they lose their pick this year (likely) they have Kobe, Young and a recovering Randle next year. Mabye KD and Love sign up in 2016, but I doubt it..

I believe the Lakers will keep their pick this year. Only chance I see for them to lose it is if someone jumps them in the lottery. They will have a top 5 pick to go along with Randle, and once Kobe leaves, FAs will be climbing over each other to make their claim as the next chapter in L.A. They are still the #1 destination for the majority of players. The Lakers will be back on top pretty much the minute Kobe is out the door, IMO. They shouldn't be lumped in with the 2 NY teams.

Otherwise, I agree with most of what's been said in this thread. Utah/Minny are my top teams, with Orlando and Philly following. Boston could be in a great situation, but it could take time to find the right opportunity to burn those picks on. Also have to put in a good word for Detroit, since I love what's going on there lately. I hope they can keep Monroe. Sacramento has Cousins, but I don't think anyone has any faith in their FO.

[Hornet Mania]

1. Lakers- They'll have a top-5 pick this year unless the lottery goes horribly wrong for them. Will have all the cap space in the world in 2016, when every major free agent is aiming to sign a new mega-max deal. Players these days love to collude and play together, reviving the Lakers brand is going to be awfully appealing.

2. Indiana- Were an elite team last year, injuries have destroyed them. If they get a bit of lottery luck you add someone like Mudiay and Paul George comes back healthy next season still well within the prime of his career. At worst they're a 5th seed next season.

3. Minnesota- Tons of young talent, and Rubio was born to run with these guys. If they add another guy with star potential in the draft next year that's a team to watch in a couple years. Okafor/Wiggins/Rubio/Lavine/Muhammad/Dieng. Not a bad crop of youth and potential.

[brackdan70]

Philly has great opportunity if Noel, Embiid, and top 3 pick this year and next year pan out. If not it could be a really long rebuild.
I like Orlando's team and think they could be competitive really quick...but that team could top out as a fourth seed type, not quite making it.
Minny trading for Wiggins was a great move. also looking at good pick this year. they have to feel good about their spot.
Celtics have a nice core of legit role players...remains to be seen if they can land a couple stars thru draft or trade. Definitely the Assets to do it.
I like Utah's players but they have locked up 3 guys into long term contracts....it seems like a good idea, but could be trouble if they don't pan out as expected.

I think those teams have a lot to be optimistic about.

NY? - well you got PJ...now what?
Brooklyn - can't rebuild because all their picks are going elsewhere.
Sac has some great pieces but management seems sketchy
Lakers can sign somebody I guess
IDK about Detroit..playing well right now and have Drummond
Jury is out on Indiana, will they resign Hibbert and does George come back 100%? they could easily be back in the mix quickly.

I thought Char had finally turned the corner...but....No.
NO should get better but these next years are vital. can't make any more poor moves and need to surround Brow with some serviceable players.

[Gomagic44]

I thank the Knicks for their pick last year. Payton is looking pretty nice. I also really liked what I saw out of Gordon. I'm a magic homer. Other than that...

Minny-owned that trade, happy for their fans.

Boston-don't like their talent much, but picks and picks.

Philly-picks and picks

La-I don't have faith like most of you. I believed the hype when d12 went there. Turned out like crap. They haven't gotton anyone since. I think they lose their pick this year to phx and then we get it in '17?

Brooklyn is in the dumps. No future, mediocre present.

Utah-hope they can break through the western playoff barrier soon. They seem to have committed to many of their youth. I don't get why they drafted 2 pgs 2 years in a row. Hobert looks great though.


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[Kings2013]

I think Minny def has the advantage

Wiggins Ceiling is redic
Lavines Ceiling is Redic
Bennett has a 3 point shot and athletic
Dieng Ceiling is Redic
Shabazz has 6ManofYear written all over him.
lol I literally almost forgot Rubio

Second Id rank the Magic because

I think Gordon and Payton will be a lot better than Harris Oladipo and Vucevic

Define "redic"? I'd stop with Wiggins on the TWolves if we're not using the term loosely

[Rich Michmond]

I think Minny def has the advantage

Wiggins Ceiling is redic
Lavines Ceiling is Redic
Bennett has a 3 point shot and athletic
Dieng Ceiling is Redic
Shabazz has 6ManofYear written all over him.
lol I literally almost forgot Rubio

Second Id rank the Magic because

I think Gordon and Payton will be a lot better than Harris Oladipo and Vucevic

Define "redic"? I'd stop with Wiggins on the TWolves if we're not using the term loosely

http://onlineslangdictionary.com/meanin ... n-of/redic

[Amish Mafioso]

Its the lakers, its always been the lakers.

They dont need to tank. they dont need to draft well.
.

The Lakers are tanking this year.

[brackdan70]

I thank the Knicks for their pick last year. Payton is looking pretty nice. I also really liked what I saw out of Gordon. I'm a magic homer. Other than that...

Minny-owned that trade, happy for their fans.

Boston-don't like their talent much, but picks and picks.

Philly-picks and picks

La-I don't have faith like most of you. I believed the hype when d12 went there. Turned out like crap. They haven't gotton anyone since. I think they lose their pick this year to phx and then we get it in '17?

Brooklyn is in the dumps. No future, mediocre present.

Utah-hope they can break through the western playoff barrier soon. They seem to have committed to many of their youth. I don't get why they drafted 2 pgs 2 years in a row. Hobert looks great though.


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Philly doesn't have any first round picks beside their own and Miami's this year, granted their own will be nice picks for a couple years.

[Kings2013]

I think Minny def has the advantage

Wiggins Ceiling is redic
Lavines Ceiling is Redic
Bennett has a 3 point shot and athletic
Dieng Ceiling is Redic
Shabazz has 6ManofYear written all over him.
lol I literally almost forgot Rubio

Second Id rank the Magic because

I think Gordon and Payton will be a lot better than Harris Oladipo and Vucevic

Define "redic"? I'd stop with Wiggins on the TWolves if we're not using the term loosely

http://onlineslangdictionary.com/meanin ... n-of/redic

I know what word he is trying to use, I'm just asking how the word relates to NBA players ceilings for him

[Mik317]

The Wolves.

They have a team I wished we had right now

But honestly most of the bad teams are in great position to turn their futures around. Ignoring us for homer reasons, the Knicks will have a high ass pick, cap space, and hate him or not a legit 1st scoring option in Melo to build around or trade (no contract is untradeable). The Lakers generally never stay down for too long. They probably will do everything in their power to not lose their pick to the Suns and shouldn't have any trouble attracting FAs (although...recent history doesn't back this up lol). Mudiday would be a great fit in New York or LA. And both teams could actually use a bigman so there is a dearth of solid choices at the top of the draft for them. They get the right piece and they are in there. Most rookies go to places that have trouble attracting other players it seems, so it will be interesting to see what a young star in a major market does (Rose is close but he allegedly doesn't like recruiting because reasons) They of course still got to pick the right guy (shouldn't be a problem for the Lakers staff..say what you want they have quietly drafted some solid players with the picks they had IIRC. Phil is a bit untested tho).

Utah is an interesting one as IMO it depends on what Exum becomes and what they decide to do with their bigs (Gobert is a goddam freak...).

Boston has a lot of picks (a lot of them are late tho) and prospects to move around...I do think Ainge is more likely to try to make a big splash instead of waiting years tho.

The Magic should be able to sneak into the playoffs which is kind of a bummer as I think they are still missing something (idk what tho), but Oladipo has been ballin lately.

Brooklyn is the only team, IMO, that really might have a hard time and thats because they went all in and traded all their picks and outside of Plumlee and Karasev, they don't really have any young talent to build around...maybe they get some picks back in the upcoming implosion?

I just think a lot of the baaaad teams have a potential path to glory they can take. Things obviously have to fall the right way and it may take longer than expected but there is a light at the end of the tunnell for most of them.

[brackdan70]

Also if you are a New Orleans fan you have to be stoked that you have the guy who will be the best player in the league in a couple years...if not sooner...

[PICKnPOP]

I feel like every bad team has pretty decent young talent build around in the future. Everyone but the lakers who basically have randle and a bunch of second rounders.

Nyc has a few good years left of Carmelo and most likely get okafor this off season.

Minnesota has wiggins, deing and Levine. That's promising

New Orleans has davis

Utah is loaded with young talent

Philly is loaded with young talent

Orlando is loaded with young talent

Sac has cousins.

Hopefully the lakers can keep the top 5 and add at least one more promising young player in stanimal (assuming we keep the fourth pick)


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[GopherIt!]

Everybody but the Nets.

New Orleans. It's all about star power my friends. They just need to clear enough capspace for 2016-17 and convince an elite free agent to come play w AD and they will be overnight contenders.

[MinneOOPalis]

I like Orlando. They have a clear vision for their team and the guys they want to bring in. They really just need a wing to complete their core after Tobias leaves.. Hezonja would be perfect for them.

[Domejandro]

Utah was a question mark before this season but quietly have had 3 players break out (20ish PER, top 60 in RPM). Hayward, Favors, and Gobert is currently the strongest big three of any young team. Orlando could equal that with Vuc, Harris, Dipo next year so they're not totally out of the conversation. Minnesota has a vet/youth discord going on. By the time Wiggins, Bazz, and Deing reach their prime in 5 years, Rubio, Martin, and Pek will be gone or won't be of much use. That said, Wiggins is the only player any of these teams have with true superstar potential so they are right up there.

All these teams will be adding another high pick this year to even further improve them.

Ricky Rubio is only twenty three. The Pek and Martin part is right, but people often forget how young Ricky is, haha.

[tiderulz]

[Blkbrd671]

Best-
1. Minny I love their core going forward, with Rubio, Wiggens, Bazz, Bennett, Lavine, Deing, then if they add a top big, look out. Parker would be awesome with this lineup

Rubio needs to go, he's a great passer, but never is healthy and isn't quite the huge impact player that everyone wanted him to be. Wiggins, BEAST. Bennett, as role player at worst, Lavine"BEAST", Deing, BEAST.

If i am Minny, i am trading anyone not named wiggins, lavine,dieng, pek for a PG, vets, and compliment players. Minny's problem is that they need players who know how to win.

2. Orl-Payton, Oli, Harris, Gordon, Nuc is a great first 5-expecpt for shooting. A bench of Fournier, Harnkess and their pick this year to replace Fyre long term would look good too. They just need to keep this group together and let them run

Payton looks legit, he needs to figure his shot out, however he has that pace about him. I think he's goign to be really good. Olidipo is nice piece but he's undersized and the SG position, idk how him and Payton compliment each other, but i'd think a shooter like stauskis be a better compliment.I don't think they'll pay harris, Gordon is a freak athletically but is a tweener with no outside game, and Nuc is a straight franchise player. If i am them, i'd build around Payton, Gordon, Nuc, with Olidipo coming off the bench. Surround that team with vets as well.

3. Utah-Exum, Burks, Hayward, Favors, Goubert is a great 5-Burks would look better as a 6th man, and they still have Kanter and Burke to play with

UTH seems to have been the best wrost team the past 4 years. Favors never turned into Amare, Kanter is inconsistent, hayward is a beast, and Burkes is still figuring it out. They have a future with Goubert, if healthy. and Burks is good but not great. Haven't seen exum enough to comment. They really don't have a clear picture of their directions.i'd suggest they trade kanter and Burke and get what they can to build around Exum, Goubert and fAvors

Worst
1. Brk-no young players, no picks, for sale-this team is a mess for years to come
2. NY-who will join Melo in NY, and how will he age? I think Phil is in trouble there
3. LA-Which FA's are coming? If they lose their pick this year (likely) they have Kobe, Young and a recovering Randle next year. Mabye KD and Love sign up in 2016, but I doubt it.


It is bad for the NBA that their 2 most valuable franchises will be down for a while (Miami doesn't look so bright long term, and Bos needs some luck too)-but the TV deal is signed.

All 3 of those teams are major markets, they aren't going to have problems with their future. I wouldn't be suprised if 1 of those 3 doesn't improve their position by the deadline.

I do think Miami is underrated here. They have whiteside and ennis who bring a tremendous amount of athleticims and bosh and wade have at least 3 years left of productive play. They actually look decent if you change dieng into a scoring PF