Juke Skywalker - The Kemba Walker Thread II

[TheKingofSting]

Thanks yosemiteben. The Wolves showed some life last night but hopefully we can beat them even without Kemba.

[Joest2003]

I think the people arguing in this thread are merely just arguing over different interpretations of the phrase "make others better".

Some take that to mean it in the very literal sense, such as player A, being the best player on the team, makes the team and his teammates better simply by attracting attention, getting others some easy baskets. Some take that to mean it the philosophical sense, such as player B who makes the game easier for everyone by being unselfish, making smart plays, leading, pulling others up with him, everyone who plays with player B looks much better than they really are.

Kemba is definitely like player A. I don't think Kemba is quite like player B. To be fair, there are very few players each year that truly are like player B. Wilt Chamberlain was player A, Bill Russell was player B. Carmelo Anthony is player A, Lebron is player B. Random example using lesser players - Jason Richardson was player A, Shane Battier was player B. Allen Iverson was player A, Isiah Thomas was player B.

I don't quite understand why so many of you view what Lamar, James (and me previously) said as such as insult against Kemba. Very few players have the ability to truly elevate the play of everyone around them in the truest sense.

I would argue that MKG is the closest thing we have on the Hornets to player B. He's not the best player on the team, but when he is on the floor he elevates everyone defensively. He drags other lesser defenders up to his level. The stories of him at Kentucky are proof of the type of impact he had on his teammates.

Did you really just call MKG the best player on the team?? I love MKG he is a great player but common man. defenders literally leave him wide open if hes outside like 5 feet and it causes major spacing problems and I dont think I have ever seen him create a play for anyone in my life. He has a great motor and is very competitive but the same can be said for Walker. The only thing hes better at is defense. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion though.

[vorbis]

I think the people arguing in this thread are merely just arguing over different interpretations of the phrase "make others better".

Some take that to mean it in the very literal sense, such as player A, being the best player on the team, makes the team and his teammates better simply by attracting attention, getting others some easy baskets. Some take that to mean it the philosophical sense, such as player B who makes the game easier for everyone by being unselfish, making smart plays, leading, pulling others up with him, everyone who plays with player B looks much better than they really are.

Kemba is definitely like player A. I don't think Kemba is quite like player B. To be fair, there are very few players each year that truly are like player B. Wilt Chamberlain was player A, Bill Russell was player B. Carmelo Anthony is player A, Lebron is player B. Random example using lesser players - Jason Richardson was player A, Shane Battier was player B. Allen Iverson was player A, Isiah Thomas was player B.

I don't quite understand why so many of you view what Lamar, James (and me previously) said as such as insult against Kemba. Very few players have the ability to truly elevate the play of everyone around them in the truest sense.

I would argue that MKG is the closest thing we have on the Hornets to player B. He's not the best player on the team, but when he is on the floor he elevates everyone defensively. He drags other lesser defenders up to his level. The stories of him at Kentucky are proof of the type of impact he had on his teammates.

Did you really just call MKG the best player on the team?? I love MKG he is a great player but common man. defenders literally leave him wide open if hes outside like 5 feet and it causes major spacing problems and I dont think I have ever seen him create a play for anyone in my life. He has a great motor and is very competitive but the same can be said for Walker. The only thing hes better at is defense. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion though.

you should read what fats says more carefully.

[Liver_Pooty]

I think the people arguing in this thread are merely just arguing over different interpretations of the phrase "make others better".

Some take that to mean it in the very literal sense, such as player A, being the best player on the team, makes the team and his teammates better simply by attracting attention, getting others some easy baskets. Some take that to mean it the philosophical sense, such as player B who makes the game easier for everyone by being unselfish, making smart plays, leading, pulling others up with him, everyone who plays with player B looks much better than they really are.

Kemba is definitely like player A. I don't think Kemba is quite like player B. To be fair, there are very few players each year that truly are like player B. Wilt Chamberlain was player A, Bill Russell was player B. Carmelo Anthony is player A, Lebron is player B. Random example using lesser players - Jason Richardson was player A, Shane Battier was player B. Allen Iverson was player A, Isiah Thomas was player B.

I don't quite understand why so many of you view what Lamar, James (and me previously) said as such as insult against Kemba. Very few players have the ability to truly elevate the play of everyone around them in the truest sense.

I would argue that MKG is the closest thing we have on the Hornets to player B. He's not the best player on the team, but when he is on the floor he elevates everyone defensively. He drags other lesser defenders up to his level. The stories of him at Kentucky are proof of the type of impact he had on his teammates.

Did you really just call MKG the best player on the team?? I love MKG he is a great player but common man. defenders literally leave him wide open if hes outside like 5 feet and it causes major spacing problems and I dont think I have ever seen him create a play for anyone in my life. He has a great motor and is very competitive but the same can be said for Walker. The only thing hes better at is defense. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion though.

Your reading comprehension is downright pathetic.

[JDR720]

So I just looked up knee cyst to try and find out what type of treatment it needs

Do we know what kind of cyst it is? I found something called a Baker Cyst and it doesn't sound like a fun time.

A Baker cyst may cause no symptoms or be associated with knee pain and/or tightness behind the knee, especially when the knee is extended or fully flexed. Baker cysts are usually visible as a bulge behind the knee that is particularly noticeable on standing and when compared to the opposite uninvolved knee. They are generally soft and minimally tender.

Baker cysts can become complicated by spread of fluid down the leg between the muscles of the calf (dissection). The cyst can rupture, leaking fluid down the inner leg to sometimes cause the appearance of a painless bruise under the inner ankle. Baker cyst dissection and rupture are frequently associated with swelling of the leg and can mimic phlebitis of the leg. A ruptured Baker cyst typically causes rapid-onset swelling of the leg.


How is a Baker cyst diagnosed?

Baker cysts can be diagnosed by the doctor's examination and confirmed by imaging tests (either ultrasound, injection of contrast dye into the knee followed by imaging, called an arthrogram, or MRI scan) if necessary.


How is a Baker cyst treated?

Baker cysts often resolve with aspiration (removal) of excess knee fluid in conjunction with cortisone injection. Medications are sometimes given to relieve pain and inflammation.

When cartilage tears or other internal knee problems are associated, physical therapy or surgery can be the best treatment option. During a surgical operation, the surgeon can remove the swollen tissue (synovium) that leads to the cyst formation. This is most commonly done with arthroscopic surgery.

http://www.medicinenet.com/baker_cyst/p ... st_treated

[yosemiteben]

He's not the best player on the team, but when he is on the floor he elevates everyone defensively.

Did you really just call MKG the best player on the team??

[catch20two]

Keep fighting the good fight Joest2003 until they start calling out the bums on the team that's really holding us back and Cliff's rotations. Kemba and MKG are our best players. Both of them make our team better therefore making their teammates better. I don't know how he could use MKG as a example of making teammates better defensively and not use Kemba in that same vein of making teammates better offensively. Take Kemba off this team and our offense suffers. Take MKG off the floor and our defense suffers.

[Joest2003]

My bad fats read it wrong.

[mrknowitall215]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/status/557359127312486400[/tweet]

“All the time,” Walker said. “I’m ‘too small, not strong enough, can’t shoot… That’s stuff that I’ve heard for years, but it’s never bothered me, because I know how to play. I just play based off of straight-toughness. I just knew—I always knew—that would get me over the hump. I always took the criticisms as motivation.”

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With Tim Hardaway as his hero and the Sack-Wern courts as his lab, Walker has improbably risen as the face of an NBA franchise. The Hornets are currently attempting to qualify for the playoffs in back-to-back seasons and with the 24-year-old Walker leading the way, brighter days are ahead.

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-s ... en-flight/

[JDR720]

I like that he has a chip on his shoulder, he is just as talented as any other PG his age just needs to be consistent.

[JDR720]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/hornets/status/557590691959033857[/tweet]

[mrknowitall215]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/MikeSGallagher/status/557638131877691393[/tweet]

Kemba Walker - His usage has really spiked because the Hornets were missing a lot of their guys. Al Jefferson is a usage monster with DeMarcus Cousins as the only other center to play more than 30 minutes per game and log a usage rate higher than Al Jeff's 26.8 this season.

The loss of Al Jefferson explains why Kemba posted a massive 31.5 usage rate in 37.1 minutes per game in 2015. In fact, no player with at least five games in 2015 has more than Walker's 21.3 shot attempts per game. What's more, he put up a solid 49.7 eFG% in that span, which explains his averages of 27.0 points, 4.7 boards, 4.6 assists, 1.3 steals, 1.0 blocks and 2.0 triples.

The most interesting part is how well he's done off the dribble. Here's a look at his seven 2015 games (bottom) vs. the 33 games in 2014 this season (top):


He's made some tremendous strides in scoring off the dribble. While I do think we have to slightly discount that stuff because he had favorable matchups basically for every game, that's still some rare air to put up that kind of efficiency off the dribble. It's hard to attribute the improvement to the loss of Al Jefferson and Lance Stephenson, but it certainly is possible.

As touched on, Walker's usage was only a 24.7 in the 2014 part of the season. I would be shocked to see it be above 27 even if he's scoring the ball extremely well.

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nba/5 ... or-lose-it

[yosemiteben]

That sort of usage isn't sustainable. We have got to figure out how to get him to have close to that sort of efficiency on less usage.

Interestingly, his attempts off of between 3 - 6 dribbles almost doubled and was by far the greatest increase in his attempts, yet his eFG% on those shots only went up 1%.

[mrknowitall215]

Kemba is currently leading all NBA point guards in turnover ratio

[yosemiteben]

Kemba is currently leading all NBA point guards in turnover ratio

Don't think so.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/assists/sort/assistTurnoverRatio/position/point-guards

[mrknowitall215]

Kemba is currently leading all NBA point guards in turnover ratio

Don't think so.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/assists/sort/assistTurnoverRatio/position/point-guards

There's a difference between the 'assist-to-turnover ratio' stat you posted and the 'turnover ratio' stat that Hollinger uses



...but thanks

[mrknowitall215]

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/assists/sort/assistTurnoverRatio/position/point-guards

Also impressive to see that he's 3rd among point guards that receive starter minutes in this stat as well

[yosemiteben]

Hence the "think."

I've never heard of a turnover ratio separate from A:TO so interesting to read how that is calculated. If a player has a low FG% like Kemba, then I think A:TO is probably a more impressive statistic for a PG.

I do wonder if his desire to limit TOs also limits his assist numbers.

[mrknowitall215]

Hence the "think."

I've never heard of a turnover ratio separate from A:TO so interesting to read how that is calculated. If a player has a low FG% like Kemba, then I think A:TO is probably a more impressive statistic for a PG.

I do wonder if his desire to limit TOs also limits his assist numbers.

TO: Turnover Ratio - the percentage of a player's possessions that end in a turnover. Turnover Ratio = (Turnover x 100) divided by [(FGA + (FTA x 0.44) + Assists + Turnovers]

[HornetJail]

Not sure how we missed these, but it looks like **** raymond felton