Trade Targets (postcript on yesterday-other teams)

[milweskee]

Is there even one Hammond/Phone pic in this thread?

Count me disappoint.

[JimmyTheKid]

Would say we are at 75-80% that Ersan gets dealt by Thursday. At least 5 teams have interest in him right now.

Do u have an inside track on this or is this more matter of opinion? Not discrediting u, just looking for substantial info... Kings seem to be 1st team I've seen him linked to really... plus 75/80% is a lot imo and ur post made me happy lol. Just wanted to see if I'm setting myself up for failure or not thinking Ersan is a goner. I personally think he should've been traded last year for a ham sandwich.

And I will say that idk about most Bucks fans but it's really ashame we didn't pull the trigger on the Brooklyn deal. Id much much much rather be dealing with Brook Lopez and his injury concern right now over the uselessness that is Ersan Ilyasova and Larry Sanders. We'd be in such better shape with Lopez as an asset over what we kept.

My friend mentioned earlier in the season, before that elbow crushed his face, before the concussion, and before the groin, that the Bucks were looking to move Ersan by the deadline. Houston was mentioned as a potential destination. I don't have any new info from the rumor mill but Ersan has been firmly on the block all year.

[Matches Malone]

I just hope we can get a future asset this deadline. Would be such a nice change of pace from past deadlines and always crapping my pants in angst just waiting for us to make a bad deal.

[JimmyTheKid]

I'm not giving up a 1st round pick for Stauskas.

If they want to swap JT for Ersan, fine, but I'd rather have that 1st than Stauskas.

Guy is being overrated to insane levels by this board.

Not this year. Quite the opposite, in fact. Thats why some of us feel he may be available. No matter how you feel about Stauskas, you have to agree that particular 3 team trade with Phoenix and Sacramento is exactly the type of trade we need to be considering.

Sure, we should be looking at deals like that. I just don't see why PHX does that particular deal.

And I guess I'm not seeing what everyone else is with Stauskas. Not a guy I'd ever consider giving up a 1st round pick for.

Two first round picks would be pretty enticing, no? And in the proposed deal, in addition to giving up a midrange to low 1st round pick, the Bucks would be getting younger and clearing a ton of salary.

[machu46]

Hmmm... David Lee would be a really interesting fit here, even if it's only for the year and a half left on his contract. He can rebound and pass like Kidd wants in a big guy and he'd be our best post-scorer too. If we can trade Ersan and make it work financially while still having the money to pay Knight and Middleton, I could get down with that.

[Bernman]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=l2w4tbj

MKE in - Stauskas
Mclemore
Collison
Thompson

SAC in - Knight
Arsen
2017 LAC first
a couple seconds

I think this a good outline for a deal with SAC. We give up the best player in the deal. All star snub!!! SAC gets to overpay said player. Karl doesn't like playing young players anyway.

We get two young players who could fit very well with Giannis and Parker. Both young players would be flippable as well if it doesn't work out after a year. Arsen and Thompson both suck. Collison can handle playing PG in this years playoffs. Plus Johnny Mac has always liked him.

I'd be thrilled with that trade. It's a good blend of improving us for the present and future. We save ourselves in the present and future from Knight killing beneficial ball movement. Collison would be a better point guard to facilitate ball movement and score of the ball the next couple of years. Thompson would add much needed physicality and depth down low this year. Stauskas and McLemore could help our floor spacing a bit this year and a lot going forward. Who knows what Giannis, gimpy Parker, unknown centre, and unknown point will be like in the shooting dept. Middleton is a help but he's only one guy and we wouldn't have to pay Mac or Stauskas for a while. Never a big fan of either, but they give us a couple shots at getting that position right.

I'm not of the mind that Ersan is a bum like a contingent here. He was trending up again big time before the injuries which he should recover from. He was the best player on the floor in a lot of those games. BUT, what I don't get is why would the Kings be interested in him when they're going nowhere fast this year? He's more of a win now moderate asset. Something is hinky in Sacto.

BTW, give them JOB too because we're feeling generous.

[dc634]

At $15.5 M next year, there would have to be something more coming with Lee to entice the Bucks no?

[dc634]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=l2w4tbj

MKE in - Stauskas
Mclemore
Collison
Thompson

SAC in - Knight
Arsen
2017 LAC first
a couple seconds

I think this a good outline for a deal with SAC. We give up the best player in the deal. All star snub!!! SAC gets to overpay said player. Karl doesn't like playing young players anyway.

We get two young players who could fit very well with Giannis and Parker. Both young players would be flippable as well if it doesn't work out after a year. Arsen and Thompson both suck. Collison can handle playing PG in this years playoffs. Plus Johnny Mac has always liked him.

Why would the Kings do this? It harms the team now and in the future.

[dedned]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=l2w4tbj

MKE in - Stauskas
Mclemore
Collison
Thompson

SAC in - Knight
Arsen
2017 LAC first
a couple seconds

I think this a good outline for a deal with SAC. We give up the best player in the deal. All star snub!!! SAC gets to overpay said player. Karl doesn't like playing young players anyway.

We get two young players who could fit very well with Giannis and Parker. Both young players would be flippable as well if it doesn't work out after a year. Arsen and Thompson both suck. Collison can handle playing PG in this years playoffs. Plus Johnny Mac has always liked him.

Why would the Kings do this? It harms the team now and in the future.

Knight's the best player in this trade.

[dc634]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=l2w4tbj

MKE in - Stauskas
Mclemore
Collison
Thompson

SAC in - Knight
Arsen
2017 LAC first
a couple seconds

I think this a good outline for a deal with SAC. We give up the best player in the deal. All star snub!!! SAC gets to overpay said player. Karl doesn't like playing young players anyway.

We get two young players who could fit very well with Giannis and Parker. Both young players would be flippable as well if it doesn't work out after a year. Arsen and Thompson both suck. Collison can handle playing PG in this years playoffs. Plus Johnny Mac has always liked him.

Why would the Kings do this? It harms the team now and in the future.

Knight's the best player in this trade.

I'd take, Collison-McLemore-Gay-Landry/Ersan-Cousins over Sessions-Knight-Gay-Thompson-Cousins any day of the week, and I am a supposed Knight superfan.

[Giannis Parker]

My friend mentioned earlier in the season, before that elbow crushed his face, before the concussion, and before the groin, that the Bucks were looking to move Ersan by the deadline. Houston was mentioned as a potential destination. I don't have any new info from the rumor mill but Ersan has been firmly on the block all year.

The one offer I know for sure was on the table until Wednesday was the Kings offer of Stauskas and Thompson for Ersan. Bucks were waiting to see what else came up, and also would need to either just flat out cut JoB and Marshall, or make another follow up move to clear the roster space.

We currently have 16 players, and are required to get under 16 by Thursday February 19th at 11:59 EST

I believe Jorge is up by then, so it is possible we just let him walk, but something tells me Kidd gets his way again and Jorge stays. So the above trade puts us at 17 players if we pull the trigger. Adding Thompson means we can safely cut JoB I would think, and then what do you do about that last spot? No real answer, so we may be waiting until the 3pm deadline on Thursday to find out.

[JimmyTheKid]

My friend mentioned earlier in the season, before that elbow crushed his face, before the concussion, and before the groin, that the Bucks were looking to move Ersan by the deadline. Houston was mentioned as a potential destination. I don't have any new info from the rumor mill but Ersan has been firmly on the block all year.

The one offer I know for sure was on the table until Wednesday was the Kings offer of Stauskas and Thompson for Ersan.

And we didn't jump all over it? Uh, why? You mean it was pulled from the table on Wednesday or will be on the table until next Wednesday?

[teerfour+40LG]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=l2w4tbj

MKE in - Stauskas
Mclemore
Collison
Thompson

SAC in - Knight
Arsen
2017 LAC first
a couple seconds

I think this a good outline for a deal with SAC. We give up the best player in the deal. All star snub!!! SAC gets to overpay said player. Karl doesn't like playing young players anyway.

We get two young players who could fit very well with Giannis and Parker. Both young players would be flippable as well if it doesn't work out after a year. Arsen and Thompson both suck. Collison can handle playing PG in this years playoffs. Plus Johnny Mac has always liked him.

This is a terrible trade for us. Collison, McLemore, and Thompson are three of our starters and part of a winning starting lineup. We don't need to replace any one of them before revising our bench.

[Balls2TheWalls]

My friend mentioned earlier in the season, before that elbow crushed his face, before the concussion, and before the groin, that the Bucks were looking to move Ersan by the deadline. Houston was mentioned as a potential destination. I don't have any new info from the rumor mill but Ersan has been firmly on the block all year.

The one offer I know for sure was on the table until Wednesday was the Kings offer of Stauskas and Thompson for Ersan.

And we didn't jump all over it? Uh, why? You mean it was pulled from the table on Wednesday or will be on the table until next Wednesday?

That trigger should have been pulled instantly.

[Matches Malone]

My friend mentioned earlier in the season, before that elbow crushed his face, before the concussion, and before the groin, that the Bucks were looking to move Ersan by the deadline. Houston was mentioned as a potential destination. I don't have any new info from the rumor mill but Ersan has been firmly on the block all year.

The one offer I know for sure was on the table until Wednesday was the Kings offer of Stauskas and Thompson for Ersan. Bucks were waiting to see what else came up, and also would need to either just flat out cut JoB and Marshall, or make another follow up move to clear the roster space.

We currently have 16 players, and are required to get under 16 by Thursday February 19th at 11:59 EST

I believe Jorge is up by then, so it is possible we just let him walk, but something tells me Kidd gets his way again and Jorge stays. So the above trade puts us at 17 players if we pull the trigger. Adding Thompson means we can safely cut JoB I would think, and then what do you do about that last spot? No real answer, so we may be waiting until the 3pm deadline on Thursday to find out.

I thought I heard or read somewhere that once Jorge's contract is up they probably won't be bringing him back. I get the Kidd narrative but I don't think they end up bringing him back. Now if we could get Stauskas and Thompson for Ersan, that would be HUGE! Just cut JOB and you're on your way. I hate the idea of cutting a rookie but JOB just doesn't seem like an NBA guy. I'm fine with cutting ties. Not like he has a decent amount of upside like Damian Inglis does.

[imithanos]

If this trade is an option JOB could follow Ersan and it could be a 2 for 2 trade.

[Balls2TheWalls]

If that trade was pulled then Hammond better cash in in a big way on Ersan.

[Giannis Parker]

Most of the league does not value Stauskas the way many of the posters on this board do. Stauskas is much closer to Joe Alexander than he is even JJ Redick. So to go from 400k Guaranteed in 2 years to a locked in 6m, it is no home run trade for the Bucks.

*Kings pulled all currently withstanding offers once they hired Karl

[Matches Malone]

I really want this Ersan for Thompson+Stauskas to come true. Add JOB to the package or cut him. Then our playoff roster would look like...

Brandon Knight - Jerryd Bayless
Khris Middleton - OJ Mayo - Nik Stauskas
Giannis Antetokounmpo - Jared Dudley
Jason Thompson - Kenyon Martin
John Henson - Zaza Pachulia

IR/Suspended List
Larry Sanders
Jabari Parker
Kendall Marshall
Damien Inglis

[Insomniaac]

My friend mentioned earlier in the season, before that elbow crushed his face, before the concussion, and before the groin, that the Bucks were looking to move Ersan by the deadline. Houston was mentioned as a potential destination. I don't have any new info from the rumor mill but Ersan has been firmly on the block all year.

The one offer I know for sure was on the table until Wednesday was the Kings offer of Stauskas and Thompson for Ersan. Bucks were waiting to see what else came up, and also would need to either just flat out cut JoB and Marshall, or make another follow up move to clear the roster space.

We currently have 16 players, and are required to get under 16 by Thursday February 19th at 11:59 EST

I believe Jorge is up by then, so it is possible we just let him walk, but something tells me Kidd gets his way again and Jorge stays. So the above trade puts us at 17 players if we pull the trigger. Adding Thompson means we can safely cut JoB I would think, and then what do you do about that last spot? No real answer, so we may be waiting until the 3pm deadline on Thursday to find out.

Did the King's deal come off the table Wednesday or is that just the last time you know it was standing? If we missed out on that for nothing I'll be disappointed.

Edit: didn't see your post about Karl, that makes sense