Trade Targets (postcript on yesterday-other teams)

[blazza18]

I think some people are overrating our players. Teams aren't going to give anything up to get Ersan. He's not a floor-spacing big anymore, he's an injury-prone over the hill forward who is shooting sub-30% from beyond the arc over the past two seasons. Nobody is trading for Larry Sanders right now because his situation is too cloudy. Jared Dudley is a very nice piece for any team but he's not fetching a 1st. Brandon Knight could net a 1st but the owners aren't doing that based on their recent comments about him.

I agree with all this, I just find it funny that a 27 year old can be called over the hill. Usually a basketball player's prime is approximately 26-31.

Ersan is like 70 or something. Calling him over the hill would be a compliment.

[JayMKE]

If Phoenix would do LAC 1st for Plumlee then I'd do it. Cheap, under contract another year, still relatively young, has size, good athlete that can get out and run the floor, stays with in his role and doesn't try to do things he can't do. I think he'd be an upgrade over Zaza/Henson/JOB. Realistically the pick isn't going to be great, probably in the range of that you can just straight up by the pick so a guy on a bargain contract that can help us win the next 2 years would be a good use.

no


plumlee isnt good at all.. .

plumlees a serviceable big. He's kind of Dan gatzerich with a little better offensive game. While I do think he'd help the bucks I wouldn't trade that clips pick for him because I'd rather keep it and use it as part of a package for a more meaningful player. Now for a real contender who's thin up front trading a late 1st for him could make some sense but the bucks aren't there yet.



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I've watched enough of him and while he isn't a high ceiling guy, he'll rebound-dunk-body up and stay in his role. He's a great athlete and a big strong dude so I think he could fill a pretty big need for us. I'm working under the assumption that the LAC pick will probably be around 25 or later(CP3 and Blake aren't going anywhere) and I just don't think that is worth that much, we probably could move Plumlee pretty easily too if we wanted to as somebody always needs a big man. Timofey Mozgoz netted two 1st picks this year as you may remember.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I'm not advocating this but putting it out there for board consumption and critique.

Ersan, JOB and the Clips 1st to PHX for Isiah Thomas, Plumlee and a 2nd.

I don't watch enough of Thomas this year and whether he's too undersized to work defensively or too much a chucker. But he's got quickness and a three ball and his contract is probably now market to below market with the new TV deal. Plumlee is the true big you can put in there to bang.

Again, not advocating but looking for commentary.

doubt the suns would do it. I think they could fetch a 1st rounder for a combo Thomas and plumlee without taking ersans salary back. Present day ersan is a worse player than either Morris brother and probably wouldn't crack the rotation.

Thomas is an interesting player. He's a terrific scorer and good 3 point shooter. He tries hard on d but his size is an issue. The biggest complaint is he's a bit of a ball hog who looks to score all the time but if you put him on a 2nd unit where u need some one to fill it up he's a useful player.

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[WeekapaugGroove]

I'm not advocating this but putting it out there for board consumption and critique.

Ersan, JOB and the Clips 1st to PHX for Isiah Thomas, Plumlee and a 2nd.

I don't watch enough of Thomas this year and whether he's too undersized to work defensively or too much a chucker. But he's got quickness and a three ball and his contract is probably now market to below market with the new TV deal. Plumlee is the true big you can put in there to bang.

Again, not advocating but looking for commentary.

doubt the suns would do it. I think they could fetch a 1st rounder for a combo Thomas and plumlee without taking ersans salary back. Present day ersan is a worse player than either Morris brother and probably wouldn't crack the rotation.

Thomas is an interesting player. He's a terrific scorer and good 3 point shooter. He tries hard on d but his size is an issue. The biggest complaint is he's a bit of a ball hog who looks to score all the time but if you put him on a 2nd unit where u need some one to fill it up he's a useful player.

The suns are looking to deal him so they can give Goran the backup pg minutes instead of having him play 100% at the 2.

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[WeekapaugGroove]

no


plumlee isnt good at all.. .

plumlees a serviceable big. He's kind of Dan gatzerich with a little better offensive game. While I do think he'd help the bucks I wouldn't trade that clips pick for him because I'd rather keep it and use it as part of a package for a more meaningful player. Now for a real contender who's thin up front trading a late 1st for him could make some sense but the bucks aren't there yet.



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I've watched enough of him and while he isn't a high ceiling guy, he'll rebound-dunk-body up and stay in his role. He's a great athlete and a big strong dude so I think he could fill a pretty big need for us. I'm working under the assumption that the LAC pick will probably be around 25 or later(CP3 and Blake aren't going anywhere) and I just don't think that is worth that much, we probably could move Plumlee pretty easily too if we wanted to as somebody always needs a big man. Timofey Mozgoz netted two 1st picks this year as you may remember.

I watch almost every suns game and you're assessment is pretty spot on. While I personally wouldn't trade the clips pick for him it wouldn't be a bad trade by any means. he would make a positive impact this season.

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[ReasonablySober]

I like Thomas, but he's the last thing the Bucks need going forward.

[ampd]

Clips 1st for Plumlee would be fine with me. Don't need them to take ersan. Just cut job

[Jez2983]

I would offer up Parker/Knight for Wiggins/Rubio this summer. I think we'd be legit contenders with that squad.

now that's a crazy ass trade.

heres mine. sanders/parker/ mil 2015 #1 for paul george

Minny obviously says no. But bucks would be legit, wiggins/Giannis would be insane together. Imagine the fast breaks their defense/Rubio would create


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Those deals are amazing for us. Wolves/Indy get reamed so hard. Also, I love how you got rid of the fap fest (which I happily participated in) for Australia's most talented PG.

[AussieBuck]

I'm not advocating this but putting it out there for board consumption and critique.

Ersan, JOB and the Clips 1st to PHX for Isiah Thomas, Plumlee and a 2nd.

I don't watch enough of Thomas this year and whether he's too undersized to work defensively or too much a chucker. But he's got quickness and a three ball and his contract is probably now market to below market with the new TV deal. Plumlee is the true big you can put in there to bang.

Again, not advocating but looking for commentary.

More skilled, tiny Knight. Bayless seems fine as the off the bench combo especially considering $$, keep him trade Knight, don't add any more little heroes unless they are min salary depth guys.

[Prince12]

now that's a crazy ass trade.

heres mine. sanders/parker/ mil 2015 #1 for paul george

Minny obviously says no. But bucks would be legit, wiggins/Giannis would be insane together. Imagine the fast breaks their defense/Rubio would create


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Those deals are amazing for us. Wolves/Indy get reamed so hard. Also, I love how you got rid of the fap fest (which I happily participated in) for Australia's most talented PG.

I missed the CJ Bruton trade discussion.

[eagle13]

PHX wants stretch 4 & gets fan favorite back
HOU needs PG & C
MIL gets PF & possible lottery pick

MIL - Ersan Dudley 2nd 2nd // 1st-NO jones terry
PHX - THOMAS Plumlee // Ersan Dudley 2nd
HOU - 1st-NO jones terry // THOMAS Plumlee 2nd

Who is Johnson on the Suns?

edited
why when I am staring right at I. Thomas on the screen I type Johnson? brain fart. I meant Thomas

[breakchains]

If you want to get frustrated by the lack of Giannis on offense you add another ball hog point guard to the two we already have. Isaiah might actually be worse than Knight and Bayless when it comes to that.

[Prince12]

A 3 guard midget lineup with Bayless, IT and Knight would be brutal to watch and yes Giannis would not touch the ball, at all.

[eagle13]

Did you guys happen to notice that Thomas goes to Houston in that trade NOT MILWAUKEE

[AussieBuck]

Did you guys happen to notice that Thomas goes to Houston in that trade NOT MILWAUKEE

Did you happen to see the PP post we were referring to?

[skywalker33]

MIL - Ersan Dudley 2nd 2nd // 1st-NO jones terry
PHX - THOMAS Plumlee // Ersan Dudley 2nd
HOU - 1st-NO jones terry // THOMAS Plumlee 2nd

For Ersan, Dudley and 2 2nds you gonna get a lottery pick, Jones and an expiring in Terry ???

right...

[tyland]

Amare bought out per various twitter sources

[Prince12]

End of a painful stint in NY. Pitty they still have Melo.

[Eeavers57]

Amare bought out per various twitter sources

Kidd played with Amare on the Knicks in 12-13...

[emunney]

I can't believe Amar'e left Phoenix almost five seasons ago, but then again, I can't believe it hasn't been longer.