Trade Targets (postcript on yesterday-other teams)

theFireBlanket · Post #6081 » by **theFireBlanket** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:15 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:pressey.. quote this so i know youll see it and maybe then stop being in denial about whose show this has been since the Dudley trade

Didn't you watch Entourage? Kidd has people to keep the phones humming. People like E (Hammond) and Turtle (Morway). Then you've got LED/Alex as the Ari character. In the end Kidd will get what he wants and he'll negotiate it personally if he has to.

kidd probably has veto power and makes a lot of suggestions. his moves are obvious. all the rest, like the Dudley trade and most of what were hearing now, is just as obviously NOT his too.

Kanter is Kidd's target according to the rumor of him developing interest after seeing him twice this year and that's the big deal being discussed here. Like it or not (the Kanter aspect). I think that Hammond and Kidd are both in charge to some degree.

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #6082 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:16 pm

middleton= kanter

love=hate

Licensed to Il · Post #6083 » by **Licensed to Il** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:16 pm

Giannis Parker wrote:
SkilesTheLimit wrote:
Parker and Giannis are guys you build around. Guys like Middleton are who you build WITH.

Middleton's shot is elite now. When you can tell me what Kanter does that's elite, I'll be all ears.

Middleton shot at this rate for 45 games last year as well, then fell of quite a bit.

I do like Middleton, said that numerous times, but Kanter could become a 18-9 guy, and the paint is important.

Pay Middleton 10m to shoot, or pay Kanter 10m to rebound and score, I will pay the guy who gives me more than one thing. I do not believe this hype on Middleton on the defensive end personally, because I have faith that the system is what makes these guys look good, not their individual talents.

I like Kanter's potential and have been advocating we give him a look for a while. But if you don't think Middleton is a good defender, you have exposed yourself as someone who either doesn't watch the games or doesn't understand basketball very much.

Kidd's defensive system is actually more difficult to play in most ways than more conventional styles, not that it is dramatically different. But Kris is asked to switch more and to cover more ground than most perimeter defenders. That doesn't mean he is getting by on gimmicks and scheme, it means he is earning a reputation as a great defender being asked to do even more than most.

Giannis Parker · Post #6084 » by **Giannis Parker** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:18 pm

Whatever the opinion, this team would be very well off to move into the future with this:

Knight-Middleton-Parker-Giannis-Kanter

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #6085 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:18 pm

theFireBlanket wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
kidd probably has veto power and makes a lot of suggestions. his moves are obvious. all the rest, like the Dudley trade and most of what were hearing now, is just as obviously NOT his too.

Kanter is Kidd's target according to the rumor of him developing interest after seeing him twice this year and that's the big deal being discussed here. Like it or not (the Kanter aspect). I think that Hammond and Kidd are both in charge to some degree.

absolutely agree. but i still think one guy is the one giving input and the other is the gm. kidd is not the gm.

mlloyd10 · Post #6086 » by **mlloyd10** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:19 pm

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lp6ckgz

Bucks get: Lawson/Hood
Nuggets get: Jackson/Perkins
Jazz get: Middleton/Ilyasova
Thunder get: Kanter

LUKE23 · Post #6087 » by **LUKE23** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:19 pm

Giannis Parker wrote:Whatever the opinion, this team would be very well off to move into the future with this:

Knight-Middleton-Parker-Giannis-Kanter

I like Henson more than Kanter with that starting five. Unless the rule changes and we can play with three basketballs.

dedned · Post #6088 » by **dedned** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:19 pm

Giannis Parker wrote:
SkilesTheLimit wrote:
Parker and Giannis are guys you build around. Guys like Middleton are who you build WITH.

Middleton's shot is elite now. When you can tell me what Kanter does that's elite, I'll be all ears.

Middleton shot at this rate for 45 games last year as well, then fell of quite a bit.

I do like Middleton, said that numerous times, but Kanter could become a 18-9 guy, and the paint is important.

Pay Middleton 10m to shoot, or pay Kanter 10m to rebound and score, I will pay the guy who gives me more than one thing. I do not believe this hype on Middleton on the defensive end personally, because I have faith that the system is what makes these guys look good, not their individual talents.

Go away.

JayMKE · Post #6089 » by **JayMKE** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:19 pm

Giannis Parker wrote:Whatever the opinion, this team would be very well off to move into the future with this:

Knight-Middleton-Parker-Giannis-Kanter

I see a lot of Giannis and Jabari standing in the corner and pillowy soft interior D

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #6090 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:20 pm

Giannis Parker wrote:Whatever the opinion, this team would be very well off to move into the future with this:

Knight-Middleton-Parker-Giannis-Kanter

im totally fine taking a flyer on kanter. im absolutely not willing to give up a better player than kanter to do so.

Balls2TheWalls · Post #6091 » by **Balls2TheWalls** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:20 pm

mlloyd10 wrote:http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lp6ckgz

Bucks get: Lawson/Hood
Nuggets get: Jackson/Perkins
Jazz get: Middleton/Ilyasova
Thunder get: Kanter

I don't make this trade. Hood is essentially a no defense, no shot version of Middleton, and Lawson coming in with Knight still on the roster does nothing for me.

Giannis Parker · Post #6092 » by **Giannis Parker** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:21 pm

Henson is not better than Kanter and that is where the delusion needs to stop. Henson is pretty clearly a bench player moving forward.

JayMKE · Post #6093 » by **JayMKE** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:22 pm

Giannis Parker wrote:Henson is not better than Kanter and that is where the delusion needs to stop. Henson is pretty clearly a bench player moving forward.

henson = kanter

except Henson can protect the rim just a lil bit

who cares if Kanter looks better shirtless?

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #6094 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:22 pm

LUKE23 wrote:
Giannis Parker wrote:Whatever the opinion, this team would be very well off to move into the future with this:

Knight-Middleton-Parker-Giannis-Kanter

I like Henson more than Kanter with that starting five. Unless the rule changes and we can play with three basketballs.

yes... Henson figured it out. kanter with whatever the talent gap is hasn't. and this is a really big deal when were talking about it being 4 years into a players career.

Newz · Post #6095 » by **Newz** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:23 pm

Why do people want Ty Lawson so much?

mlloyd10 · Post #6096 » by **mlloyd10** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:23 pm

Who would play better with Giannis? Kanter or henson?

ackypoo · Post #6097 » by **ackypoo** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:25 pm

mlloyd10 wrote:Who would play better with Giannis? Kanter or henson?

offense, kanter. kanter is a much better offensive player than henson and actually can shoot outside of 3 feet with a left handed hook.

defense, henson. its probably closer than people think though.

SkilesTheLimit · Post #6098 » by **SkilesTheLimit** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:25 pm

I think Henson is garbage and I'd hesitate to deal him and the Clips 1st for Kanter. Kanter has his flaws too.

The best deal I'd offer for RFA Kanter is Ilyasova/Clips 1st.

Post #6099 » by **paulpressey25** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:26 pm

The Wet Whistle wrote:
It's going to be pretty awesome when nothing happens and all we have to show for it is a 500 page thread

Sometimes the reward is in the process. I still remember when Europa thought he heard we were trading RJ and Ridnour to Portland for Raef, Travis Outlaw and Sergio Rodriquez or some variation of it at the deadline in 2009. We went 30 pages in an hour on that one.

Baddy Chuck · Post #6100 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:26 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
The Wet Whistle wrote:
It's going to be pretty awesome when nothing happens and all we have to show for it is a 500 page thread

Sometimes the reward is in the process. I still remember when Europa thought he heard we were trading RJ and Ridnour to Portland for Raef, Travis Outlaw and Sergio Rodriquez or some variation of it at the deadline in 2009. We went 30 pages in an hour on that one.

His name was RLEC.