PG: Bobcats beat LOLters

[sv-x-as]

According to his fan boys his the most consistent player this season... Lowry to them is just chucker who needs to be traded just because he had bad stretch of games.

Lowry is a good player when he is a PG the last 15 games he has played he isn't a PG just a chucker. So you must be a fan boy! I was one of Lowry's greatest defenders and will be again when he starts being a PG again.

To call Jonas inefficient goes against all logic the only full time players that are more efficient offensively are Anthony Davis, Jimmy Butler & Steven Curry. Yet he is getting less minutes than last year! I think every team in the NBA would love to have Jonas as the starting C at 22 years old except maybe Sac Town.

When you score garbage points it's easy to be efficient, just remember when teams start defending him and throwing double team at him...lets see how efficient he will be.

yesterday he was getting double teamed, and was quite efficient. so just stop trolling please.

[FlutieX]

Out rebounded by 24. How is that even possible.

We shot tons of shots early in the shot clock, the Bobcats didn't. The ad-lib offense was in full effect last night.

[DG88]

That was one of the hardest games I've had to watch this year sooo frustrating.

[artsncrafts]

57th by centers in real plus minus.

Top of the list are names like :

1 DeMarcus Cousins
2 Tyson Chandler
3 Hassan Whiteside
4 Andrew Bogut
5 Jusuf Nurkic
6 DeAndre Jordan
7 Marc Gasol MEM
8 Timofey Mozgov
9 Al Horford

Only a Hero would take any of the above over Jonas with the exception of Cousins and if you wanted to win a championship this year Gasol. Many games the chuckers bury the team in the 1st quarter then Jonas sits. Yes his + & - is bad but there are reasons.

I would take all those guys over Jonas currently. They all have more developed games by far.



It remains to be seen if Jonas can fulfill the potential we see in him but hassan white sides play > Jonas this year. Tyson chandler on this team would be **** huge.


Wouldn't take bout over him but even nurkic is above him in terms of having a developed post game.

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You would trade JV for Mozgov, Jordan, Chandler or Whiteside straight up?

[Da1RealRapsFan]

Only a Hero would take any of the above over Jonas with the exception of Cousins and if you wanted to win a championship this year Gasol. Many games the chuckers bury the team in the 1st quarter then Jonas sits. Yes his + & - is bad but there are reasons.

I would take all those guys over Jonas currently. They all have more developed games by far.



It remains to be seen if Jonas can fulfill the potential we see in him but hassan white sides play > Jonas this year. Tyson chandler on this team would be **** huge.


Wouldn't take bout over him but even nurkic is above him in terms of having a developed post game.

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You would trade JV for Mozgov, Jordan, Chandler or Whiteside straight up?

Whiteside might not have as much potential as a finished JV but per 36


18ppg 16rb 3.9b
16ppg 11rb 1b


Choose who ýoud rather have right now then see what player I compared him to


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[RonaldArtest]

3 shots for jonas eh lol...demar got 26, lowry chucked up 22 was 5 for 18 before game was over and got garbage buckets, even ross got 10, lou 9, for christ sakes even vasquez gets 5

And Jonas' first shot attempt is when he grabbed an O-board and layed it in. They just don't get this guy near involved enough. It's sickening to watch.

[C Court]

Don't be surprised if the losing streak against Charlotte continues for at least one more game.

Raps host Charlotte on the last day of the season. So while Toronto will probably rest many key guys, the Hornets will likely be pushing for a win to secure a playoff spot.

[DonMega]

The realities of the situation:

We're in trouble. Big trouble. You don't just turn it on and off like a switch...if we go into the playoffs like this, there is no chance....to win even 2 playoff games!!!

We all complain about Casey. I have defended him. However, JV deserves better and getting no minutes in the 2nd and 4th is embarrassing and quite honestly, I hope he doesn't waste his career on a team that HAS NEVER MOTHER F**KING DEVELOPED ANYONE WHO DIDN'T ALREADY HAVE GOD GIVEN TALENT! (Vince, T-Mac, etc...).

Masai, ball is in your court. Stop wasting my time with Nelson Mandela benefits and Giants of Africa trips. I commend you for this, but it's time to seriously worry about the team you are the GM and president of. Earn you money.

Casey, you're a bad coach. Stop milking your title in Dallas.

I'm very frustrated. We were on the cusp of something great...the Leafs are bad. We need to take advantage. If we regress again there is no turning back....we will lose a fanbase again and be a small tiny core. I'm just very upset at this team and it's history repeating itself.

Kyle Lowry has completely regressed. Nothing to do with fatigue or injuries...he was injured last season to and still carried this team. He has lost his game. He had his peak of career and it was about a 5-7 month stretch dating back to mid last season. That's a fact. We have no ball movement at all...we play awful D, especially defending the three. I'm so concerned.

Rant away.

Couldn't say it better myself. The leafs literally killed me with their gong show and I haven't watched them in over 2 years. Raptors BC era was brutal and if Masai continues to do nothing but use his nba position for his own needs then this team will lose a lot of fans permanently. I remember when I heard to season holder tickets for next season already sold out in a couple hours, I had this bad taste in my mouth. People are quick to forget how awful Toronto teams are and how they toy with your emotions.

[ColangeLOL]

Couldn't say it better myself. The leafs literally killed me with their gong show

So now your a ghost or what
a ghost that can type somehow
on forums

[DonMega]

I think demar hates JV. I've never seen them talk on court and whenever demar is on court he ignores JV. Never passes or does anything so that he can score. Demar the scrub that he is likes to be the main peace in TO, because we all know how mlse keeps hyping him up even when he's trash. JV was the next big thing for the raptors, he's the most efficient player on the team but demar doesn't want JV to be the center of attention and does everything to negate that. Lowry and Derozan are best buddies so I bet that has to do something with lowry also ignoring JV. I really hope JV leaves us when the time comes, dude deserves better.

[Truthrising]

I think demar hates JV. I've never seen them talk on court and whenever demar is on court he ignores JV. Never passes or does anything so that he can score. Demar the scrub that he is likes to be the main peace in TO, because we all know how mlse keeps hyping him up even when he's trash. JV was the next big thing for the raptors, he's the most efficient player on the team but demar doesn't want JV to be the center of attention and does everything to negate that. Lowry and Derozan are best buddies so I bet that has to do something with lowry also ignoring JV. I really hope JV leaves us when the time comes, dude deserves better.

its not just DeMar and Lowry, it's Casey as well.

It feels like DeRozan and Lowry is running the show, Casey is just following them because he doesn't want to get fired.

So since DeRozan doesn't have any respect for JV, Lowry follows suit and so does Caset. It's been like that for ages and whenever JV does something wrong they're not afraid to hide it, whereas if you see DeRozan do something wrong, rarely do you ever see Casey, Lowry give them sAme treatment to DeRozan.

[Tha Cynic]

Out rebounded by 24. How is that even possible.

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[username1]

I think demar hates JV. I've never seen them talk on court and whenever demar is on court he ignores JV. Never passes or does anything so that he can score. Demar the scrub that he is likes to be the main peace in TO, because we all know how mlse keeps hyping him up even when he's trash. JV was the next big thing for the raptors, he's the most efficient player on the team but demar doesn't want JV to be the center of attention and does everything to negate that. Lowry and Derozan are best buddies so I bet that has to do something with lowry also ignoring JV. I really hope JV leaves us when the time comes, dude deserves better.

+++ Totally agree. I wish to see either Jonas or Derozen&Casey traded next season. Realistically, only Casey has a chance of being fired. Oh well, I'd take that. The worst outcome would be Masai deciding to make no changes. If that would be the case, Jonas' development would remain stalled, Derozen would keep chucking and Casey would remain incompetent.

[bballsparkin]

You would trade JV for Mozgov, Jordan, Chandler or Whiteside straight up?

And I'm a big fan of Bogut but he can't stay healthy. He's best suited on a deep team like GS with championship aspirations. No way I trade JV for him. Jordan wants the max and will probably get it. lol

[GooniesNeverDie]

That was one of the hardest games I've had to watch this year sooo frustrating.

honestly, recently it feels like every game is the hardest to watch

[Hero]

Only a Hero would take any of the above over Jonas with the exception of Cousins and if you wanted to win a championship this year Gasol. Many games the chuckers bury the team in the 1st quarter then Jonas sits. Yes his + & - is bad but there are reasons.

I would take all those guys over Jonas currently. They all have more developed games by far.



It remains to be seen if Jonas can fulfill the potential we see in him but hassan white sides play > Jonas this year. Tyson chandler on this team would be **** huge.


Wouldn't take bout over him but even nurkic is above him in terms of having a developed post game.

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You would trade JV for Mozgov, Jordan, Chandler or Whiteside straight up?

Who wouldn't?

[-TheDocOfDenial]

I would take all those guys over Jonas currently. They all have more developed games by far.



It remains to be seen if Jonas can fulfill the potential we see in him but hassan white sides play > Jonas this year. Tyson chandler on this team would be **** huge.


Wouldn't take bout over him but even nurkic is above him in terms of having a developed post game.

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You would trade JV for Mozgov, Jordan, Chandler or Whiteside straight up?

Who wouldn't?

No GM in the NBA would trade JV for Jordan, Chandler or Mozgov. Whiteside is a tough choice, but JV has more potential than him and a more polished offensive game. I don't even know what to say...

[HangTime]

Anyone else still think the Roberts 3 Fts was BS?

he shot the ball, after the foul happened, not as it was happening.

[JV4MVP]

Spoiler:

Only a Hero would take any of the above over Jonas with the exception of Cousins and if you wanted to win a championship this year Gasol. Many games the chuckers bury the team in the 1st quarter then Jonas sits. Yes his + & - is bad but there are reasons.

I would take all those guys over Jonas currently. They all have more developed games by far.



It remains to be seen if Jonas can fulfill the potential we see in him but hassan white sides play > Jonas this year. Tyson chandler on this team would be **** huge.


Wouldn't take bout over him but even nurkic is above him in terms of having a developed post game.

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You would trade JV for Mozgov, Jordan, Chandler or Whiteside straight up?

I can see some teams preferring Jordan if they need a rebounder and rim protector for the short-term, say 3 years. DeAndre will turn 27 this summer so his size and athleticism will still give him 5 years. Hasan Whiteside is going to turn 26 in June whereas JV will only turn 23 in May... 3 years is a lot of time for a center. I doubt any GM would make that trade.

Whoever would seriously consider trading JV for Mozgov straight up is a clown. Similarly, no one would trade for a injury-prone 32 Tyson Chandler, unless they were going for the ship that 1 season but would be an atrocious long-term deal.

[artsncrafts]

Spoiler:

I would take all those guys over Jonas currently. They all have more developed games by far.



It remains to be seen if Jonas can fulfill the potential we see in him but hassan white sides play > Jonas this year. Tyson chandler on this team would be **** huge.


Wouldn't take bout over him but even nurkic is above him in terms of having a developed post game.

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You would trade JV for Mozgov, Jordan, Chandler or Whiteside straight up?

I can see some teams preferring Jordan if they need a rebounder and rim protector for the short-term, say 3 years. DeAndre will turn 27 this summer so his size and athleticism will still give him 5 years. Hasan Whiteside is going to turn 26 in June whereas JV will only turn 23 in May... 3 years is a lot of time for a center. I doubt any GM would make that trade.

Whoever would seriously consider trading JV for Mozgov straight up is a clown. Similarly, no one would trade for a injury-prone 32 Tyson Chandler, unless they were going for the ship that 1 season but would be an atrocious long-term deal.

I guess Hero and Da1RealRapsFan are the Danchan's of JV. Don't worry, every player needs a Danchan. I am the Danchan of GV.