Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy

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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#121 » by jc23 » Fri May 1, 2015 4:16 am

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mattg wrote:People don't want to compare the dunleavy shot on mcw to the one on crowder because it didn't knock him out, but every shot like that is supposed to be an ejection whether it even hits the player or not. The fact that it wasn't even called a foul in the act of shooting shows how badly of a missed call it is. They missed an on ball foul worthy enough to eject a player for.

And only bulls fans would compare zaza lowerering his shoulder into a players chest to a guy taking head shots with his fists. One of those is an offensive foul, the other is a goon play. There was physical play all series, until the refs blew it by not regulating what was happening on the floor.


your talking about me, and no i didnt compare zaza's shoulder to dunleavy and his shot to mcw. I used it as one example of how the series was being played, and if anything it was a comparison to the other plays people are talking about. I called Duns play dirty and uncalled for, which it was, no defending it, period, end of story. Same goes with Giannis, dont matter what was done prior.

If he misses a game im fine with it, if he is fined i understand. Dont want to compare it to what JR did though, yes they both involved shots to the head, but one shot was one of the most damaging hits i have seen to a player since the Artest elbow. That belongs in its own category.

The result doesn't matter, the intent was the same. Jr wanted to take a shot at crowder's head with a punch, and he did. Dunleavy did the same. He didn't unintentionally graze him like you see with elbows that get called flagrants, he knowingly took a shot at the head, that's what matters. Then he continued doing it throughout the game. Like what was he doing on his 2nd shot at MCW? He sets a moving screen then goes for his head yet again.


result does matter, if crowder had a torn ACL JR would have gotten much more then 2 games and if crowder wasnt knocked out he probably would have just gotten a single game.

Not sure why the refs couldnt of looked at the replay, if they ejected Dun i would of had no problem with it.

Based off a simple interpretation of a rule they compare, but to me who is not blind they do not. Understand im not defending Dun, im defending the comparison to JR, just to be clear.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#122 » by rockersdash » Fri May 1, 2015 4:19 am

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rockersdash wrote:Mike's gotta get suspended right?

Can't believe some Bulls fans are actually supporting this idiot, who the hell cares if this is the playoffs, there's no room for this in the game, especially multiples times in one game.


i only saw one punch the rest were just chippy plays. Chalmers once almost took off a Bulls players neck in the playoffs and had no fine or suspension.


"Chippy plays" you say?

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I count 2 fouls worthy of being a flagrant 1 and the MCW being a clear flagrant 2.

Chalmers was given a flagrant 1 for this. He deserved it and it was a non basketball play. However it's Chalmers vs Noah. Pretty sure Noah's neck would stay intact.

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It's not comparable, Mike got away with multiple (3 to be exact), but I don't have them in .gif.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#123 » by jc23 » Fri May 1, 2015 4:22 am

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rockersdash wrote:Mike's gotta get suspended right?

Can't believe some Bulls fans are actually supporting this idiot, who the hell cares if this is the playoffs, there's no room for this in the game, especially multiples times in one game.


i only saw one punch the rest were just chippy plays. Chalmers once almost took off a Bulls players neck in the playoffs and had no fine or suspension.


"Chippy plays" you say?

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not the last one, as i have stated about half a dozen times already.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#124 » by Xsy » Fri May 1, 2015 4:25 am

Damn, this is gonna stain his reputation for a good couple years. Gonna be a while before people forget about "that one time Giannis leveled Dunleavy in the playoffs".
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#125 » by Jonatton Yeah » Fri May 1, 2015 4:26 am

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I've dug deep for years trying to find a clip of Dunleavy's ejection and jersey throw embarrassment. The Facepalm meme has been done to death, so no reason to keep that dinosaur going, but that really was an honest-to-goodness facepalm moment. Mike Dunleavy is in fact the worst.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#126 » by rockersdash » Fri May 1, 2015 4:27 am

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i only saw one punch the rest were just chippy plays. Chalmers once almost took off a Bulls players neck in the playoffs and had no fine or suspension.


"Chippy plays" you say?

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not the last one, as i have stated about half a dozen times already.


Doesn't matter. I was showing the others reading how many he got away with. If the other two were "chippy plays" then you have no right to complain about Chalmers getting away without a fine/suspension. Chalmers's was weaker and he got hit with a flagrant. Mike easily deserves a flagrant 1 for the first 2. A flagrant 2 for the 3rd (suspension now).

Mike should have ejected this game and this is NOT counting the MCW hit while he was air borne.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#127 » by vanboening21 » Fri May 1, 2015 4:32 am

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your talking about me, and no i didnt compare zaza's shoulder to dunleavy and his shot to mcw. I used it as one example of how the series was being played, and if anything it was a comparison to the other plays people are talking about. I called Duns play dirty and uncalled for, which it was, no defending it, period, end of story. Same goes with Giannis, dont matter what was done prior.

If he misses a game im fine with it, if he is fined i understand. Dont want to compare it to what JR did though, yes they both involved shots to the head, but one shot was one of the most damaging hits i have seen to a player since the Artest elbow. That belongs in its own category.

The result doesn't matter, the intent was the same. Jr wanted to take a shot at crowder's head with a punch, and he did. Dunleavy did the same. He didn't unintentionally graze him like you see with elbows that get called flagrants, he knowingly took a shot at the head, that's what matters. Then he continued doing it throughout the game. Like what was he doing on his 2nd shot at MCW? He sets a moving screen then goes for his head yet again.


result does matter, if crowder had a torn ACL JR would have gotten much more then 2 games and if crowder wasnt knocked out he probably would have just gotten a single game.

Not sure why the refs couldnt of looked at the replay, if they ejected Dun i would of had no problem with it.

Based off a simple interpretation of a rule they compare, but to me who is not blind they do not. Understand im not defending Dun, im defending the comparison to JR, just to be clear.


Hard to say results matter when Olynek only got 1 game.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#128 » by jc23 » Fri May 1, 2015 4:34 am

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"Chippy plays" you say?

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not the last one, as i have stated about half a dozen times already.


Doesn't matter. I was showing the others reading how many he got away with. If the other two were "chippy plays" then you have no right to complain about Chalmers getting away without a fine/suspension. Chalmers's was weaker and he got hit with a flagrant. Mike got nothing.

Mike should have ejected this game and this is NOT counting the MCW hit while he was air borne.


nope, thats just hater talk. Never has a player ever been ejected for any fouls as weak as that, you have to be pulling my leg or something.

First i could see an ejection and possible suspension or fine, the others were just the playoffs.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#129 » by Hawkeyes » Fri May 1, 2015 4:35 am

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are you trying to say Irving is a flopper?

Ah...I forget he played there to be honest. His stint was so short with his unfortunate injury....he doesn't count.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#130 » by jc23 » Fri May 1, 2015 4:36 am

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mattg wrote:The result doesn't matter, the intent was the same. Jr wanted to take a shot at crowder's head with a punch, and he did. Dunleavy did the same. He didn't unintentionally graze him like you see with elbows that get called flagrants, he knowingly took a shot at the head, that's what matters. Then he continued doing it throughout the game. Like what was he doing on his 2nd shot at MCW? He sets a moving screen then goes for his head yet again.


result does matter, if crowder had a torn ACL JR would have gotten much more then 2 games and if crowder wasnt knocked out he probably would have just gotten a single game.

Not sure why the refs couldnt of looked at the replay, if they ejected Dun i would of had no problem with it.

Based off a simple interpretation of a rule they compare, but to me who is not blind they do not. Understand im not defending Dun, im defending the comparison to JR, just to be clear.


Hard to say results matter when Olynek only got 1 game.


he would of gotten zero games if not for a freak injury by Love.
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Post#131 » by rockersdash » Fri May 1, 2015 4:36 am

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not the last one, as i have stated about half a dozen times already.


Doesn't matter. I was showing the others reading how many he got away with. If the other two were "chippy plays" then you have no right to complain about Chalmers getting away without a fine/suspension. Chalmers's was weaker and he got hit with a flagrant. Mike got nothing.

Mike should have ejected this game and this is NOT counting the MCW hit while he was air borne.


nope, thats just hater talk. Never has a player ever been ejected for any fouls as weak as that, you have to be pulling my leg or something.

First i could see an ejection and possible suspension or fine, the others were just the playoffs.


What's this double standard you're holding your players too?

You expect the Chalmers hit to warrant a fine/suspension but Mike got away with 3 worse hits and it's "playoffs". I'm out. The irony.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#132 » by jc23 » Fri May 1, 2015 4:39 am

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Doesn't matter. I was showing the others reading how many he got away with. If the other two were "chippy plays" then you have no right to complain about Chalmers getting away without a fine/suspension. Chalmers's was weaker and he got hit with a flagrant. Mike got nothing.

Mike should have ejected this game and this is NOT counting the MCW hit while he was air borne.


nope, thats just hater talk. Never has a player ever been ejected for any fouls as weak as that, you have to be pulling my leg or something.

First i could see an ejection and possible suspension or fine, the others were just the playoffs.


What's this double standard you're holding your players too?

You expect the Chalmers hit to warrant a fine/suspension but Mike got away with 3 worse hits and it's "playoffs". I'm out. The irony.


Your not comprehending, the chalmers play was dirty but it was also playoffs dirty, never said i thought he should have been suspended. Just that thats how some series are played. You came in here with a previous agenda against Chicago and you want blood, its cool.
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Post#133 » by rockersdash » Fri May 1, 2015 4:44 am

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nope, thats just hater talk. Never has a player ever been ejected for any fouls as weak as that, you have to be pulling my leg or something.

First i could see an ejection and possible suspension or fine, the others were just the playoffs.


What's this double standard you're holding your players too?

You expect the Chalmers hit to warrant a fine/suspension but Mike got away with 3 worse hits and it's "playoffs". I'm out. The irony.


Your not comprehending, the chalmers play was dirty but it was also playoffs dirty, never said i thought he should have been suspended. Just that thats how some series are played. You came in here with a previous agenda against Chicago and you want blood, its cool.



Lol trying to pull the "hater" card when your bias gets exposed. Any hit to the neck is a a flagrant. We have seen much weaker/accidental calls get called flagrant because they were to the neck and up.

Mike ,has a history of this. He is a repeat offender. He deserved 2 flagrant 1's for the first 2. It's not debatable. Open a poll on the GB and ask. I dare you. Add a "It's not a flagrant foul, it's a playoffs dirty foul!!!" option too, and see the votes it gets. Unless you pull the agenda card on everyone on GB, that is.

jc23 wrote:i only saw one punch the rest were just chippy plays. Chalmers once almost took off a Bulls players neck in the playoffs and had no fine or suspension.


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Post#134 » by jbk1234 » Fri May 1, 2015 4:47 am

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nope, thats just hater talk. Never has a player ever been ejected for any fouls as weak as that, you have to be pulling my leg or something.

First i could see an ejection and possible suspension or fine, the others were just the playoffs.


What's this double standard you're holding your players too?

You expect the Chalmers hit to warrant a fine/suspension but Mike got away with 3 worse hits and it's "playoffs". I'm out. The irony.


Your not comprehending, the chalmers play was dirty but it was also playoffs dirty, never said i thought he should have been suspended. Just that thats how some series are played. You came in here with a previous agenda against Chicago and you want blood, its cool.


As much as I like physical play in the playoffs, I don't believe in "playoff's dirty." Dirty is dirty. I'm not a Cavs' fan who thought JR shouldn't have been suspended. He should have. If you make a dirty play, you should pay the piper.
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Post#135 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri May 1, 2015 4:54 am

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Dunleavey got him in the face, he looked for a call, didn't get it and dished out his own justice.


Honestly, I like a player who will not be poked in the eye.

Dunleavy is a veteran. That 20-year old sent a message. What Dunleavy did was dirty and done right in front of the refs.

The only thing Giannis needs to learn is how to be dirty like Dunleavy and get away with stuff. Or, when he's too valuable a player than to get ejected he needs to be subtle and not do a flagrant 2. In this case, his team's down 30, he season's almost over, and Dunleavy punked him at one end. He put the guy on his ass. I respect that. Go ahead and get tossed from the game but do get your money's worth.

He didn't punch him. He took him out and pretty much got his point across.
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Post#136 » by jc23 » Fri May 1, 2015 4:55 am

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What's this double standard you're holding your players too?

You expect the Chalmers hit to warrant a fine/suspension but Mike got away with 3 worse hits and it's "playoffs". I'm out. The irony.


Your not comprehending, the chalmers play was dirty but it was also playoffs dirty, never said i thought he should have been suspended. Just that thats how some series are played. You came in here with a previous agenda against Chicago and you want blood, its cool.


As much as I like physical play in the playoffs, I don't believe in "playoff's dirty." Dirty is dirty. I'm not a Cavs' fan who thought JR shouldn't have been suspended. He should have. If you make a dirty play, you should pay the piper.


Ya but you do understand the difference of a play that get you kicked out and a play that are just playoff fouls.

I think Zaza gave Mirotic a elbow to the head at one point, the refs didnt eject him because they know thats just how the game is played. Like it or not its fact. Im sure there are more examples of Bulls and Bucks players with type of shots.

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Post#137 » by majortom71 » Fri May 1, 2015 4:56 am

Bulls tend to play physical. I wonder how the Cavs are going to find a way to deal with it.
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Post#138 » by B_BallReasons » Fri May 1, 2015 4:57 am

I would have been ok with the hit if it wasn't so late. Dunleavy had it coming but Giannis wasn't really looking to hurt him. It may seem that way since it happened so late after the play but he is young and I think he just wanted to send a message with a hard foul. He'll eventually learn how to give hard fouls.
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Post#139 » by jbk1234 » Fri May 1, 2015 4:57 am

majortom71 wrote:Bulls tend to play physical. I wonder how the Cavs are going to find a way to deal with it.


Cavs are fine with physical. There was no drama in the Celtics series until game 4.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#140 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri May 1, 2015 4:59 am

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Sebastian wrote:You know how you get back at someone who takes a sly cheap shot at your face? Take a sly cheap shot at their face a few plays later.

The worst Dunleavy could have done is bloody someone's lip. The worst Giannis could have done is end Dunleavy's career. So no, Dunleavy did not "deserve" that in any sense of the word.


Rofl, spoken like someone who didn't watch the game. Dunleavy actually did worse than 'just blood a lip' to MCW in that punch, sent him to the locker room 1 min into the game. Then he followed up by taking a shot to Giannis' throat right before the ejection. No foul on either. Neither was a 'sly cheap shot', they were blatant cheap shots and dirty plays. No surprise dunleavy did it a 3rd time in the 2nd half and set a moving screen and took a 2nd shot and MCW head.

I'm all for instigators and gamesmanship, but a guy took 3 shots at players in the neck/head in one game, without the referees taking any action against it. That's unacceptable.

As for Giannis potentially ending dunleavy's career? Idk what to tell you, they went torso to torso, it really wasn't even that hard of a foul. If he hadn't made a beeline cross court to commit the foul he assuredly isn't tossed.


Which is why I LIKE what Giannis did.

Dunleavy earned that.
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