Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy

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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#141 » by jbk1234 » Fri May 1, 2015 4:59 am

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Your not comprehending, the chalmers play was dirty but it was also playoffs dirty, never said i thought he should have been suspended. Just that thats how some series are played. You came in here with a previous agenda against Chicago and you want blood, its cool.


As much as I like physical play in the playoffs, I don't believe in "playoff's dirty." Dirty is dirty. I'm not a Cavs' fan who thought JR shouldn't have been suspended. He should have. If you make a dirty play, you should pay the piper.


Ya but you do understand the difference of a play that get you kicked out and a play that are just playoff fouls.

I think Zaza gave Mirotic a elbow to the head at one point, the refs didnt eject him because they know thats just how the game is played. Like it or not its fact. Im sure there are more examples of Bulls and Bucks players with type of shots.

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I have team that has Love out for the series and Perkins on the bench. Let's see which of us still has that opinion after the series.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#142 » by jc23 » Fri May 1, 2015 4:59 am

B_BallReasons wrote:I would have been ok with the hit if it wasn't so late. Dunleavy had it coming but Giannis wasn't really looking to hurt him. It may seem that way since it happened so late after the play but he is young and I think he just wanted to send a message with a hard foul. He'll eventually learn how to give hard fouls.


No way did giannis want to break a leg or intentionaly hurt Dunleavy, just frustrated and wanted to give him a nice check into the fans. Put Olynk didnt have intentions of dislocating Love's shoulder from the socket either.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#143 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri May 1, 2015 5:03 am

The real problem is with officiating.

They're letting things get out of control. They're also wildly inconsistent. At one end they don't see what Dunleavy's doing and then they have to take action after the retaliation.

Jae Crowder got fouled repeatedly before J.R. Smith eventually clocked him. Crowder was all over Smith's back, but it was the officials who let the Cavs hit Crowder numerous times after they retaliated for what happened to Kevin Love.

Officials have to be quicker to call cheap shots. Regardless of who is doing it.
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Post#144 » by majortom71 » Fri May 1, 2015 5:05 am

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majortom71 wrote:Bulls tend to play physical. I wonder how the Cavs are going to find a way to deal with it.


Cavs are fine with physical. There was no drama in the Celtics series until game 4.


I guess do they have the 'enforcer' type player?
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#145 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri May 1, 2015 5:05 am

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B_BallReasons wrote:I would have been ok with the hit if it wasn't so late. Dunleavy had it coming but Giannis wasn't really looking to hurt him. It may seem that way since it happened so late after the play but he is young and I think he just wanted to send a message with a hard foul. He'll eventually learn how to give hard fouls.


No way did giannis want to break a leg or intentionaly hurt Dunleavy, just frustrated and wanted to give him a nice check into the fans. Put Olynk didnt have intentions of dislocating Love's shoulder from the socket either.


My initial reaction was Olynyk did what he did on purpose. I'm sure he didn't expect to hurt the guy that badly but he was definitely putting his all into yanking that arm.

I had a thought to see if Olynyk ever trained in martial arts ... :)
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#146 » by jc23 » Fri May 1, 2015 5:06 am

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As much as I like physical play in the playoffs, I don't believe in "playoff's dirty." Dirty is dirty. I'm not a Cavs' fan who thought JR shouldn't have been suspended. He should have. If you make a dirty play, you should pay the piper.


Ya but you do understand the difference of a play that get you kicked out and a play that are just playoff fouls.

I think Zaza gave Mirotic a elbow to the head at one point, the refs didnt eject him because they know thats just how the game is played. Like it or not its fact. Im sure there are more examples of Bulls and Bucks players with type of shots.

I dont start threads, i just comment on them.


I have team that has Love out for the series and Perkins on the bench. Let's see which of us still has that opinion after the series.


i always start a series hopeful each team is healthy throughout. The Love situation sucks for sure.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#147 » by kodo » Fri May 1, 2015 5:08 am

Are people seriously getting bent out of shape from Dunleavy's annoying taps to the shoulder or head?

That's the weakest "tough guy" stuff I've ever seen, and it's wasn't smart of Giannis to take himself out over that.

If you're gonna flagrant, retaliate for something that deserves it like this:

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Smacks to the head happen all the time in the playoffs.
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Post#148 » by jbk1234 » Fri May 1, 2015 5:08 am

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majortom71 wrote:Bulls tend to play physical. I wonder how the Cavs are going to find a way to deal with it.


Cavs are fine with physical. There was no drama in the Celtics series until game 4.


I guess do they have the 'enforcer' type player?


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Post#149 » by Da1RealRapsFan » Fri May 1, 2015 5:16 am

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greekbuck34 wrote:Dunleavy got away with atleast 6 dirty hits in this series..



That happened early in the game right before Giannis eyes. The refs missed it, MCW went to the locker room and the bucks lost their rythme and the game.

Right before Giannis lose his mind Dunleavy hit him in the throat also.

Giannis was wrong to smash Dunleavy but that doesn't prove that he is a dirty player. He was pissed at the moment at Dunleavy and the way the game was going and lost his mind but didn't try to hide his hit or hit him in the face, groin.

Dunleavy has proven that he is dirty player though. A great one since he is doing in a sneaky way...


Woww.. here comes the victim blaming. SMDH. I'm guessing that girl that got raped is also at fault for wearing a skirt that was too short?


LMAO fake misc dude calling out victim blaming. There's a difference between an innocent girl getting raped and a girl with her ass hanging outta her shorts walking down a sketchy street. Mike Dunleavy had his pussy hanging out in Compton. What do you thinks gonna happen. White knight brah gtfo

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Post#150 » by majortom71 » Fri May 1, 2015 5:17 am

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Cavs are fine with physical. There was no drama in the Celtics series until game 4.


I guess do they have the 'enforcer' type player?




LOL forgot they have Perkins, my bad :lol:
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Post#151 » by MetalFingaz » Fri May 1, 2015 5:18 am

Is there another angle on MDJ's "shot to the head" on Giannis before the tackle? Kinda looked like he didn't expect Mike to push him and just lost his balance, or flopped. It was definitely not a hard shot. The play on MCW warranted an ejection, sure, but he didn't cock back and swing at a player's head like JR did.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#152 » by rsavaj » Fri May 1, 2015 5:19 am

Dunleavy is always in the middle of crap like this. At a certain point, it becomes a pattern:

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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USQaUc4-Quc[/youtube]
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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rhHEwKbNG4[/youtube]

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Post#153 » by MetalFingaz » Fri May 1, 2015 5:20 am

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IFeelsYaBrah wrote:
greekbuck34 wrote:Dunleavy got away with atleast 6 dirty hits in this series..



That happened early in the game right before Giannis eyes. The refs missed it, MCW went to the locker room and the bucks lost their rythme and the game.

Right before Giannis lose his mind Dunleavy hit him in the throat also.

Giannis was wrong to smash Dunleavy but that doesn't prove that he is a dirty player. He was pissed at the moment at Dunleavy and the way the game was going and lost his mind but didn't try to hide his hit or hit him in the face, groin.

Dunleavy has proven that he is dirty player though. A great one since he is doing in a sneaky way...


Woww.. here comes the victim blaming. SMDH. I'm guessing that girl that got raped is also at fault for wearing a skirt that was too short?


LMAO fake misc dude calling out victim blaming. There's a difference between an innocent girl getting raped and a girl with her ass hanging outta her shorts walking down a sketchy street. Mike Dunleavy had his pussy hanging out in Compton. What do you thinks gonna happen. White knight brah gtfo

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Post#154 » by jbk1234 » Fri May 1, 2015 5:21 am

MetalFingaz wrote:Is there another angle on MDJ's "shot to the head" on Giannis before the tackle? Kinda looked like he didn't expect Mike to push him and just lost his balance, or flopped. It was definitely not a hard shot. The play on MCW warranted an ejection, sure, but he didn't cock back and swing at a player's head like JR did.


No JR swung wildly behind him out of frustration. MDJ looked right at MCW in the first minute of the game and let him know that if you think you're taking a jump shot without a Karate chop to the throat you're mistaken.
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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#155 » by rockersdash » Fri May 1, 2015 5:29 am

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Your not comprehending, the chalmers play was dirty but it was also playoffs dirty, never said i thought he should have been suspended. Just that thats how some series are played. You came in here with a previous agenda against Chicago and you want blood, its cool.


As much as I like physical play in the playoffs, I don't believe in "playoff's dirty." Dirty is dirty. I'm not a Cavs' fan who thought JR shouldn't have been suspended. He should have. If you make a dirty play, you should pay the piper.


Ya but you do understand the difference of a play that get you kicked out and a play that are just playoff fouls.

I think Zaza gave Mirotic a elbow to the head at one point, the refs didnt eject him because they know thats just how the game is played. Like it or not its fact. Im sure there are more examples of Bulls and Bucks players with type of shots.

I dont start threads, i just comment on them.


For sure, playoffs basketball is more physical, but heads shots cannot be counted as playoffs basketball. Not in today's league. ANY head shots should be called a flagrant foul. Mike got away with atleast 2 flagrant 1 and 1 flagrant 2.

I asked you to make a poll to prove that wasn't a "playoff foul" and me being a Miami fan had nothing to do with that conclusion. It was dirty and intentional. Had you actually made a poll, you would have seen the GB's opinion line up with that.

I fully expect a suspension, and Mike is very lucky he didn't get thrown out.

Zaza got ejected in game 2 for the elbow. If it happened in another game, then the refs missed it. Again, ANY neck and above hits are almost always flagrant 1's. Playoffs or not. Refs have an excuse for missing one call. Not three obvious ones.

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Re: Giannis Intentionaly Levels Mike Dunleavy 

Post#156 » by Ballerhogger » Fri May 1, 2015 5:29 am

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Post#157 » by dc » Fri May 1, 2015 5:32 am

Does anyone have the actual video footage of Ira Newble giving Dunleavy a roundhouse? The pic is iconic, but not sure if the video footage exists.
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Post#158 » by Flopper » Fri May 1, 2015 5:33 am

Mike is a bit dirty (lol Dirty Mike), but the stuff he does is more to get in a guy's head rather than injure him. I'd say it's pretty comparable to what CP3 does. One thing I've noticed is that he really sets the tone for the team when he's aggressive and plays with an edge like that. They needed the shot in the arm that he gave them.
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Post#159 » by My Main Man » Fri May 1, 2015 5:37 am

Regular season: RealGM constantly complaining about the league being too soft in the last few years.

Playoffs: RealGM has multi-page discussion trying to figure out how long every player that commits a hard foul should be suspended.
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Post#160 » by jbk1234 » Fri May 1, 2015 5:40 am

My Main Man wrote:Regular season: RealGM constantly complaining about the league being too soft in the last few years.

Playoffs: RealGM has multi-page discussion trying to figure out how long every player that commits a hard foul should be suspended.


Just to be clear: You're okay with guys hitting other guys in the throat when they are shooting a jumper? Because I've been on the playground when that meant fist-a-cuffs - and we weren't pussies.
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