FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread

Post #2601 » by **GONYK** » Mon May 4, 2015 9:47 pm

bleedblue3303 wrote:was curious do we have enough money to sign both Lamarcus and Gasol?

Was just thinking of

Gasol
Lamarcus
Melo
?
Russell or Mudiay.

I'd like that squad!

No, we don't

2010 · Post #2602 » by **2010** » Mon May 4, 2015 9:51 pm

bleedblue3303 wrote:was curious do we have enough money to sign both Lamarcus and Gasol?

Was just thinking of

Gasol
Lamarcus
Melo
?
Russell or Mudiay.

I'd like that squad!

Look at my sig and dream!

For it to happen Gasol and LaMarcus would have to both agree to sign at below their max. We'd have to trade Calderon and THJr without taking back any salary. We'd also be best served if we DID NOT win the lottery in this scenario. Because Towns/Okafor are the consensus picks 1/2. Those picks are also slotted at a higher salary amount. Pick 3 would be slightly less and makes sense as we'd draft Russell and can sell Gasol/Aldridge on a Melo/Russell/Galloway wing scenario with them as the missing pieces, provided they'd be willing to do what Bosh and Lebron did after Phil lays his rings on the table.

Johnny Hoops · Post #2603 » by **Johnny Hoops** » Mon May 4, 2015 10:22 pm

malik959 wrote:
Johnny Hoops wrote:The most impressive things about Danny Green for me are......

- he's a really good defender and can guard 1 thru 3 (he's sound, disciplined and tough -- plus he has + size/strength to defend)
- he's in constant movement, understands how to create space off ball movement and he takes good shots
- he's not a star but is a consummate team player
- he can stroke the 3 ball
- he's decent at driving and kicking (not great but decent)

Another note on Danny Green is if your team switches and he gets stuck on a big man he can hold his ground.

Is that you Woody?

Johnny Hoops · Post #2604 » by **Johnny Hoops** » Mon May 4, 2015 10:25 pm

moocow007 wrote:
Johnny Hoops wrote:The most impressive things about Danny Green for me are......

- he's a really good defender and can guard 1 thru 3 (he's sound, disciplined and tough -- plus he has + size/strength to defend)
- he's in constant movement, understands how to create space off ball movement and he takes good shots
- he's not a star but is a consummate team player
- he can stroke the 3 ball
- he's decent at driving and kicking (not great but decent)

That's worth about $5-6 million per.

Yeah - we shall see. I could see him signing with the Spurs for maybe $6M but I would think he'll get offered significantly higher than $6M on open market -- given higher CAP projections.

malik959 · Post #2605 » by **malik959** » Mon May 4, 2015 10:28 pm

If the Spurs pick up Aldridge than Green is all ours

god4gives · Post #2606 » by **god4gives** » Mon May 4, 2015 10:36 pm

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/2015-nba-free-agent-rankings-point-guards/

2015 NBA Free Agent Rankings – Point Guards

Tier 1:

1. Goran Dragic – Player Option

Dragic is in a tier unto himself, as the cream-of-the-PG-crop, in what is a relatively weak group of free agents point guards. In 2013-14, Goran averaged 20.3 points per game and 5.9 assists, while shooting over 50 percent from the floor (LeBron James was the only other player to average at least 20/5.5/50 percent in 2013-14, and no player in the NBA matched those numbers this season). Dragic’s numbers weren’t quite as impressive in 2014-15, as he had to split minutes in a crowded Phoenix backcourt before being traded mid-season. The HEAT paid a steep price (two first-round draft picks) to acquire him from Phoenix at the trade deadline, so it’s safe to assume Miami will be willing to pony up and offer Dragic max money this summer. However, might Dragic be willing to gamble and sign just a two-year deal with an option to opt-out in 2016, which would allow him to sign a far more lucrative contract next summer? (Last month we outlined the pros and cons of this potential strategy that may be employed by top-tier free agents this summer)

Tier 2:

2. Reggie Jackson – Restricted Free Agent

Jackson is coming off a roller-coaster 2014-15 campaign. Over the first 15 games of the season, with both Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook sidelined for the majority of those contests, Jackson averaged 19.3 points, 7.3 assists and 5.1 rebounds. Jackson was one of only two players to average at least 19/7/5 over the first month of the season. However, Jackson landed in coach Scott Brooks’ doghouse shortly after KD and Westbrook returned, and Jackson’s numbers nosedived. He was then traded to Detroit, and after stumbling a bit in his first few games, played terrifically for the Pistons. In fact, Jackson was one of only four players to average at least 17 points and 9 assists in post-All-Star break action. The other three were Chris Paul, Westbrook and John Wall. Will the Pistons, who have Brandon Jennings returning from injury next season, be willing to match a large offer to Jackson this summer?

3. Brandon Knight – Restricted Free Agent

Knight has already played for three different teams in his short NBA career. He’s shown steady improvement, but he is just a career 41 percent shooter from the floor and maybe more of an undersized combo-guard than pure PG. Still, he flashed considerable upside in 2013-14, when he averaged just under 18 points and five assists per contest. There will be plenty of interested parties vying for the 23-year-old’s services.

4. Rajon Rondo – Unrestricted Free Agent

It seems like only yesterday when it was all but a forgone conclusion that Rondo would have teams beating down his door to offer him a max contract when he hit the open market. However, Rondo’s stock, which was dipping, bottomed out in Dallas. After an uninspired effort in Game 2 of their playoffs series, the Mavericks sent him home and refused to pay him a postseason share. While Rondo’s performance this past season was undeniably disappointing, the signs of regression were certainly evident. Not only is he injury prone (Rondo has missed at least 14 games each season this decade), his production even when healthy is no longer elite. Once a feared defender, Rondo is now merely average. And his offensive efficiently has gone from bad to worse. He’s a career 26% three-point shooter and last season he became the first player in NBA history shorter than 6’6 to shoot below 40 percent from the free-throw line over the course of a full NBA campaign. We know he won’t be back in Dallas, but where will he end up? And for how much? The Rondo situation is extremely interesting and largely unpredictable.

5. Patrick Beverley – Restricted Free Agent

The ball-hawking Beverley has been one of the NBA’s most aggressive defenders since elbowing his way into the Rockets’ rotation. However, his health is a bit of a question mark after missing the end of the regular season and the playoffs after undergoing surgery on his left wrist that will require four months of recovery. This may decrease demand for his services. If so, he may end up as one of the better values on the market.

Tier 3:

6. Jeremy Lin – Unrestricted Free Agent

Lin is viewed largely as a disappointment because he was never ever able to live of the hype he generated during the incredible “Linsanity” run in the winter of 2012. Coming off that phenomenal stretch, he signed a lucrative three-year deal with the Rockets, which expires at the end of this season. This time around, his contract will be far more reasonable. Lin will never be an all-star, but he is a relatively reliable and consistent point guard. He’s durable (he’s played in 227 out of a possible 246 games over the last three years), and has been solid, if not spectacular. For the right price, Lin (still just 26 years old) would be a solid back-up point guard for many NBA teams.

7. Mo Williams – Unrestricted Free Agent

It didn’t generate much national attention, but Williams played very well offensively down the stretch for the Bobcats last season. He appeared in 27 games for Charlotte after a mid-season trade (amazingly, five of the top point guards on this list were traded mid-season in 2015), and averaged a whooping 17.2 points, six assists and 2.2 made three-pointers per contest, despite playing just 30 minutes a night. The 32-year-old still has plenty left in the tank.

8. Jose Juan Barea – Unrestricted Free Agent

Barea posted the best PER of his career (15.1) in Dallas last season as an energetic spark-plug off the Mavericks bench. That’s the role he is best suited for; playing 18-20 minutes a night and possibly more if he’s hot.

9. C.J. Watson – Unrestricted Free Agent

Watson was forced to play heavy minutes (24.9 mpg) for the injury depleted Pacers. He played relatively well, averaging 10 points per game and posting a career-best 15.4 PER.

10. Cory Joseph – Restricted Free Agent
Joseph hasn’t had a real opportunity to showcase his skills, but has flashed intriguing upside in limited minutes with the San Antonio Spurs. It remains to be seen if a large enough offer could pry him away from San Antonio.

11. Beno Udrih – Team Option

Udrih is due $2.2 million next season, but the deal is not guaranteed. If he were to hit the open market, he’d draw interest from teams looking for a dependable back-up point guard.

Tier 4:

12. Aaron Brooks – Unrestricted Free Agent

The journeyman has played for four different teams over the last two years, but has contributed offensively when given an opportunity. Last season in Chicago, he averaged 18.2 points and 5.0 assists per-36 minutes.

13. Norris Cole – Restricted Free Agent

The HEAT had hoped Cole would develop into a starting quality NBA guard, but it didn’t happen in Miami. However, Norris did play better than expected during his half-season stint in New Orleans. Interestingly, Cole played exactly 24.4 minutes per game for both the HEAT and the Pelicans last season. Yet, Cole averaged 9.9 points per game, shooting 44.4 percent from the floor and 37.8 percent from three-point territory for New Orleans. In contrast, he averaged just 6.3 points per game on 38.6 percent and 26.5 percent shooting in Miami. Are the Pelicans believers?

14. Nate Robinson – Unrestricted Free Agent

Nate returned from an ACL tear this season and was rusty and ineffective, which was not shocking. His shot was erratic, as he finished the season shooting below 35 percent from the floor. He should be affordable this summer for a team hoping he can bounce back, regain some athleticism and re-locate his jumper.

15. Kirk Hinrich – Player Option

Hinrich has a $2.8 million option for the 2015-16 season. Safe to assume he opts in.

16. Jameer Nelson – Player Option

Nelson has a $3.2 million option for next season. Also very safe to assume he exercises his option as well.

17. Ish Smith – Unrestricted Free Agent

Ish got a chance to play starters’ minutes over the final couple months of the regular season in Philadelphia. He showed he deserves a place in the league, averaging 12 points and six dimes in 27 minutes over 25 games with the 76ers.

18. Matthew Dellavedova – Restricted Free Agent

A gritty “glue guy” and spirited defender, the Cavaliers would likely prefer to keep him in Cleveland.

Best of the Rest: Steve Blake, Raymond Felton, Jimmer Fredette, Shane Larkin, John Lucas, Toure’ Murry, Sebastian Telfair, Andre Miller, Donald Sloan, Ronnie Price and Will Bynum.

KnicksGadfly · Post #2607 » by **KnicksGadfly** » Tue May 5, 2015 1:05 am

god4gives wrote:http://www.basketballinsiders.com/2015-nba-free-agent-rankings-point-guards/

You can't trust these websites, man. I don't see Shane Larkin anywhere on this list.

god4gives · Post #2608 » by **god4gives** » Tue May 5, 2015 1:20 am

knicksh20b wrote:
god4gives wrote:http://www.basketballinsiders.com/2015-nba-free-agent-rankings-point-guards/

You can't trust these websites, man. I don't see Shane Larkin anywhere on this list.

Shane Larkin is on the list man. Check that last sentence. He's listed as a honorable mention. I doubt he'll be on the Knicks roster anyway so who cares.

projectpaki · Post #2609 » by **projectpaki** » Tue May 5, 2015 1:29 am

Just read that Nuggets looking to move Ty Lawson, would rather have him then Calderon, obviously Denver doesnt want him. Where could we ship Jose to get a package good enough to add LAwson.

iLovethosedamnknicks · Post #2610 » by **iLovethosedamnknicks** » Tue May 5, 2015 1:55 am

malik959 wrote:If the Spurs pick up Aldridge than Green is all ours

Woopdi effn doo

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aq_ua · Post #2611 » by **aq_ua** » Tue May 5, 2015 2:00 am

malik959 wrote:If the Spurs pick up Aldridge than Green is all ours

That's why we need to move first and give guys like Danny Green an exploding contract offer early in free agency. Let LMA take his sweet time negotiating with various teams and keep them from competing for the role players.

sportscrazy · Post #2612 » by **sportscrazy** » Tue May 5, 2015 2:07 am

Assuming the latest projected $68 Million salary cap:

Greg Monroe - 4 year deal starting at $14 Million
Gary Neal, Mike Dunleavy and Brandon Bass - all to 1 year deals for $4.5 Million (a bit of an overpay to get them to sacrifice long-term deals elsewhere)
Cap MLE - Alexey Shved
Lance Thomas, Lou Amundson, Andrea Bargnani and Cole Aldrich all to 1 year minimums since they have a season of the triangle under their belts and can help move the other guys along.

C-Karl-Anthony Towns/Cole Aldrich/Lou Amundson
PF-Greg Monroe/Brandon Bass/Andrea Bargnani
SF-Carmelo Anthony/Mike Dunleavy Jr./Cleanthony Early
SG-Gary Neal/Tim Hardaway Jr./Lance Thomas
PG-Jose Calderon/Langston Galloway/Alexey Shved

Is that a good first step?

ORANGEandBLUE · Post #2613 » by **ORANGEandBLUE** » Tue May 5, 2015 2:14 am

Johnny Hoops wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
That's worth about $5-6 million per.

Yeah - we shall see. I could see him signing with the Spurs for maybe $6M but I would think he'll get offered significantly higher than $6M on open market -- given higher CAP projections.

Trevor Ariza got $8m per and helped make Houston the biggest over-achiever in the league. That is the baseline for Green. Throw in the increasing cap, he's younger, and he's got the Spurs appeal, he'll likely see offers for over $10m/year.

ORANGEandBLUE · Post #2614 » by **ORANGEandBLUE** » Tue May 5, 2015 2:24 am

How much would it take to get KJ McDaniel? People always say they want to find the next Demarre Caroll or Danny Green, but would they put $4-5m into a relative unknown? I could see him costing that much.

If we sign Monroe, he could be a good fit at the 2 to cover for his lack of shot-blocking. And he's cheap enough that we could sign another rotation player (e.g. AmirJohnson) in addition to him and Monroe.

ORANGEandBLUE · Post #2615 » by **ORANGEandBLUE** » Tue May 5, 2015 2:30 am

sportscrazy wrote:Assuming the latest projected $68 Million salary cap:

Greg Monroe - 4 year deal starting at $14 Million
Gary Neal, Mike Dunleavy and Brandon Bass - all to 1 year deals for $4.5 Million (a bit of an overpay to get them to sacrifice long-term deals elsewhere)
Cap MLE - Alexey Shved
Lance Thomas, Lou Amundson, Andrea Bargnani and Cole Aldrich all to 1 year minimums since they have a season of the triangle under their belts and can help move the other guys along.

C-Karl-Anthony Towns/Cole Aldrich/Lou Amundson
PF-Greg Monroe/Brandon Bass/Andrea Bargnani
SF-Carmelo Anthony/Mike Dunleavy Jr./Cleanthony Early
SG-Gary Neal/Tim Hardaway Jr./Lance Thomas
PG-Jose Calderon/Langston Galloway/Alexey Shved

Is that a good first step?

You really just can't roll out a line-up that is this poor defensively... no if ands or buts.

Bravenewworld · Post #2616 » by **Bravenewworld** » Tue May 5, 2015 3:33 am

NYK just needs to stay away from FA this off season.
Ditch Melo.. maybe try to get the Lakers to take Melo for their two first rounders and ehh.. the Kentucky guy they drafted.
Spend this year developing a roster of young talented player, draft another lottery pick, and then fill out the roster with free agents.

BRIGGS · Post #2617 » by **BRIGGS** » Tue May 5, 2015 3:36 am

What we should do:

Take Gerald Wallace and his 10.1 mm on for pick 16

Take David Lee and his 15mm on for pick 30 and 2nd rounders in 2019 and 2020

Waive Jose Calderon

Sign Anjica for 4 years 24-26mm
Resign Shveyd for the Full MLE
Resign Cole
Have picks 1-4/16/30 in the draft
Have full cap space for 2016 and not waste it on role players or unworthy max players.
Draft and develop our own players

KnicksGadfly · Post #2618 » by **KnicksGadfly** » Tue May 5, 2015 5:49 am

god4gives wrote:
knicksh20b wrote:
god4gives wrote:http://www.basketballinsiders.com/2015-nba-free-agent-rankings-point-guards/

You can't trust these websites, man. I don't see Shane Larkin anywhere on this list.

Shane Larkin is on the list man. Check that last sentence. He's listed as a honorable mention. I doubt he'll be on the Knicks roster anyway so who cares.

Sorry, I was joking! Now that I look at it, the PG pool looks pretty weak, but the good thing is that we're running a system that doesn't seem to need the PG to be a huge playmaker. I'm down using Langston Galloway but I want Caldy gone.

FemaleDogPlease · Post #2619 » by **FemaleDogPlease** » Tue May 5, 2015 6:05 am

The east is wide open next year. The Knicks are 1 yr removed from being the 2nd seed.

And100 · Post #2620 » by **And100** » Tue May 5, 2015 2:21 pm

Bravenewworld wrote:Ditch Melo..

He has a full no trade clause.

Spend this year developing a roster of young talented player, draft another lottery pick, and then fill out the roster with free agents.

What young, talented players?