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Post#121 » by MaceCase » Sat May 30, 2015 7:12 am

Rip2137 wrote:The "problem" here is that if we got blown out of the water with a healthy Millsap, Korver, Carroll and Thabo, I think they would be looking to make bigger moves.

But we lost with a one armed Milsap, no Korver and Thabo and a basically no legged Demarre. I think it gives them false hope.

I love the team oriented thing, but we need to build a team that can survive injuries like Cleveland did. Cleveland had two HUGE injuries and went from a elite offensive team to a elite defensive team with their replacements. We went from an elite team to a pretty good team with the injuries.

Simply put, you aren't going to be able to have guys that are just as good offensively coming off the bench. But you can have a group of lock down defenders coming and I am in favor of that.

That's why I don't want to move Korver to the bench(although I would for Matthews or Danny Green). I would rather just reup on the defensive second unit so that when a starter goes down we simply get better defensively.

Funny thing is that it seems like the last couple years Ferry went out to get depth at a certain position only to have the very same position challenged by injury. It was the bigs last year and the wings this year but clearly this team's ceiling has risen greatly with just a greater amount of quality depth added to it. For that reason I imagine that just adding a 5th wing and 4th big would put this team right back at if not farther than they were this year.

I used this metaphor before in that the team is like a Ferrari engine, with all the parts working the engine as a whole is a thing of beauty but unfortunately the entire thing gets bogged down or doesn't work at all if any single or pair of parts get gunked up. Due to the exotic nature of the engine not just any spare part can be plugged in to replace a part that breaks down either. You typically would have to import the replacement part which takes time but if you have the particular spares sitting in your garage already then it's less of a concern. Teams that follow the superstar model and particularly Cleveland are like an aircraft carrier with multiple engines powered by a nuclear core, they can survive one or two engines going down especially as long as the reactor stays intact but that just isn't an option for this current team. Increase the cache of spare parts in the garage and I believe that it shouldn't be hard to maintain the team's peak performances for longer or specific stretches.
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Post#122 » by hawkschop1 » Sat May 30, 2015 4:30 pm

Someone I haven't seen anyone mention yet is marreese speights. He can hit mid-range Js and rebound off the bench and he's mean standing at 6'10. I believe he has a team option for next season and if GS wants to re-up draymond green then they may have to let speights walk. Also, former teammate of Al at Florida.


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Post#123 » by PandaKidd » Sat May 30, 2015 5:16 pm

Speights, hell, where is Greg oden?
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Post#124 » by Geaux_Hawks » Sat May 30, 2015 5:40 pm

Speights may not leave GS unless someone pays him more. I'm pretty sure GS would love to keep him as long as possible.
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Post#125 » by hawkschop1 » Sat May 30, 2015 8:45 pm

Panda Kidd you talk way too much. There's nothing wrong with my suggestion. You are no expert my friend.


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Post#126 » by PandaKidd » Sat May 30, 2015 8:48 pm

Ok ?? I was agreeing with you , just saying I saw grizz inquiring about oden, maybe we should to?

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Post#127 » by PandaKidd » Sat May 30, 2015 8:48 pm

hawkschop1 wrote:Panda Kidd you talk way too much. There's nothing wrong with my suggestion. You are no expert my friend.


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Post#128 » by hawkschop1 » Sat May 30, 2015 8:49 pm

Speights was a legit sixth man of the year candidate. Sometimes you're just flat out rude but I'll get it go. It's a long offseason of friendly debate


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Post#129 » by PandaKidd » Sat May 30, 2015 8:54 pm

Wtf are you talking about. I agreed with you? Speights, multiple options
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Post#130 » by hawkschop1 » Sat May 30, 2015 8:58 pm

Okay do you think GS will pick up his option?


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Post#131 » by PandaKidd » Sat May 30, 2015 10:46 pm

Prob depends on what happens with Green. I'm sure they do because size is valuable. They prob won't have Lee next year , is speights a team option? What his contract value? I've always liked him as a player, and bogut is injury prone .
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Post#132 » by Rip2137 » Sat May 30, 2015 10:49 pm

Speights and Ezili are probably the future Centers on that team with Bogut being constantly injured.
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Post#133 » by PandaKidd » Sun May 31, 2015 12:42 am

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Post#134 » by Goudelock » Sun May 31, 2015 1:18 am

PandaKidd wrote:Speights, hell, where is Greg oden?


Heck, while we're at it, let's call Andrew Bynum and see if he's interested.
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Post#135 » by Hawk Eye » Sun May 31, 2015 1:21 am

You guys are crazy, why call any of those guys when you can make a sure fire call to Hasheem Thabeet?
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Post#136 » by PandaKidd » Sun May 31, 2015 1:23 am

Elton Brand or Greg oden..... Both prob played the same amount of time. I'm not suggesting he start or he first option off the bench.

Grizz are looking at him, may be worth a workout
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Post#137 » by Goudelock » Sun May 31, 2015 1:29 am

PMOTT3 wrote:You guys are crazy, why call any of those guys when you can make a sure fire call to Hasheem Thabeet?


I've heard that Kwame Brown is ready for action.......

Seriously though, why didin't Brand and Jenkins play more? They looked good in limited minutes.
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Post#138 » by hawkschop1 » Sun May 31, 2015 9:36 pm

^agreed I think we could've used Jenkins shooting in the ECFs. Also we should've thrown our biggest bodies at Thompson like we use to do against Dwight Howard. Sucks to go out with a sweep after an incredible year. Love Horford but he really cost us by getting ejected and then only having 2 pts in game 4 is pretty weak.


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Post#139 » by Rip2137 » Mon Jun 1, 2015 4:47 pm

if someone gets nuts and offers Demare 11+ million, my off season wish list is Matthews, Danny Green and Robin Lopez. A starting lineup of Jeff, Matthews(when fully recovered) Green, Horford, and Lopez(or Millsap/Horford with Lopez as a 6th man) with Korver, Dennis, Thabo, Muscala and Tavares as the second squad is enticing to me.
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Post#140 » by my2bits » Mon Jun 1, 2015 6:44 pm

Atl should consider these draftees: Frank Kaminsky ( a perfect fit for this system), RJ Hunter (the best pure shooter in the draft), Kevin Looney (the perfect replacement for Milsapp). In free agency we should kick the tires on Danny Green, Tyson Chandler, Gerald Green, Greg Monroe, KJ McDaniels, Thomas Robinson, Kosta Koufas and alex Ajinca. If a trade is the chosen route then we should look at Lance Stephenson, Wilson Chandler, Monroe and Ben McLemore and Terrance Ross.

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