Atlanta Hawks 2015 Off-Season Thread

[atlantabbq99]

Ferry keeps a tight lip about off season moves, and he surprised everybody with the Baz and Thabo acquisition. Here are some lower end free agents that could make a big impact in Budz system, just like Thabo did.

Matt Bonner - Spurs connection, 3pt shooting PF/C who can replace Pero

Drew Gooden - He has turned himself into a good 3pt shooter. He is a vet that could replace Elton

Gary Neal - Spurs connection that is one of Budz fav players who already knows the system and can replace Jenkins.

Alan Anderson - Good all around SG with alot of hustle that impressed alot of Hawks fans in the Nets series.

Jae Crowder - Could be a good SF project like like Carroll a few years ago. He could move to the bench while Thabo starts, that is if Carroll leaves.

Gerald Green - Great athlete that is a surprisingly good 3pt shooter. Kind of reminds me of Brent Barry. His skill set could work in Budz system.

Carolos Boozer - Vet PF with a jump shot. He is a favorite of Ferry and Budz and they both tried to get him last year.

Marco Belinelli - Spurs connection who already knows the system. Him and Korver rotation at the SG spot could be very good.

[Rip2137]

Way too many mentions of Gerald Green. He is...not where you want to go. Volume scorer that doesn't play d...nah.

[PandaKidd]

I keep hearing Lance Stephensons name come up............

Talent I say BRING HIM TO ME, head says HELL NO

[Years80HAWKS]

I think Teague is the easiest TRADE piece, but I dont really want to trade him for a 6-10 pick. Hes too valuable for a potential draft bust.

Justise Winslow, barring injury, is the next big star in this league. Jimmy Butler/Kawhi Leonard caliber player. Draft him, groom him, watch him become our best player in the next three years. I'd trade any and everyone for this kid. Once you identify a young player you like...go after him hard core.

Put this on the predictions list. I haven't been this sure about a kid since I predicted Damian Lillard would be a star so many years ago...

LMA, Love, and Gasol are not coming here. Hate to be the bear of bad news but id rather let you guys down easy now then y'all get your hopes up only to have them crushed.

Robin Lopez and Tyson Chandler are the rim protecters that I would make my strongest pitches at this off-season. I'd love to get either one of them. Rim protection should be our biggest priority this off-season.

IDK if this was an intentional typo...but this is now my new favorite saying and visualization.



Also, I never fully got the name of the movie until now. It's a wonderfully droll pun. and I love droll puns.

I respect your opinion, of course, but what I have seen in this boy does not tell me the sema that tells you. I just see a 6-6/6-7 guy with no perimiter shot, no handling skills, no great vision... just a PF in a SG/SF body.

I would not trade Teague either. Guards are difficult to find and are they key in a good system. We need to throw money at somebody like AJ, Robin, etc from the list proposed a couple of pages ago.

[PandaKidd]

Pero/Brand Replacement?
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/fab-m ... -comeback/

7ft / 255lbs. Looks like hes worked on his conditioning from the recent Vine clips ive seen of him.

Speaking of Celts, what if Boston wants to get rid of Sully? Any takers?

[my2bits]

Way too many mentions of Gerald Green. He is...not where you want to go. Volume scorer that doesn't play d...nah.

Gerald Green won't simply be resigned to running off of screens all night because he can do some other things. We need better athletes on this team. He has a good stroke from deep and can make some superstar plays at the rim, something we absolutely lack. Close out on Korver, follow him tightly and he is useless. Bazemore is nice but can shoot. Like it or not, without a low post threat you had better have some elite athletes if you want to win. The main difference between us and GSW is their athleticism/versatility on the perimeter. Lance Stephenson, despite his issues, would also help us tremendously with his passing and ball handling.

[Rip2137]

Gerald Green just shoots when he touches the ball...good shot, bad shot, three, long two, early in the shot clock, late in the shot clock...he just shoots.

He is a bad rebounder for his position, he is a bad on the ball defender and off the ball defender, and a bad passer. He can go off for 30 or he can go 5-30...

I am not interested in anyone that shoots 40% from the floor. Just...no.

Lance Stephenson ruined the Pacers and none of his teammates were terribly upset when he left. He doesn't seem too well loved in Charlotte either.

I don't understand why people would want guys Charlotte and Phoenix benched for their bad play.

[PandaKidd]

I buy into the system, but i dont buy into the "You have to have all 5 guys who can score". I dont think its the death of the team if you go with a rebounding Center, or , play AH and PM at the 4/5 and then have a Gerald Green who can create offense.

[my2bits]

At pick #15 we should take Kaminsky or RJ Hunter or Delon Wright. If Frank is there, take him. If not, take Hunter. If we keep Milsapp and Carroll then we must draft big. If Milsapp walks we sign should Monroe( he is only 25 and avging a dbl-dbl on a Pistons team that has no shooters) and draft Hunter rd1 and Dakari Johnson 7"0, 260 lbs rd2.

[my2bits]

Gerald Green just shoots when he touches the ball...good shot, bad shot, three, long two, early in the shot clock, late in the shot clock...he just shoots.

He is a bad rebounder for his position, he is a bad on the ball defender and off the ball defender, and a bad passer. He can go off for 30 or he can go 5-30...

I am not interested in anyone that shoots 40% from the floor. Just...no.

Lance Stephenson ruined the Pacers and none of his teammates were terribly upset when he left. He doesn't seem too well loved in Charlotte either.

I don't understand why people would want guys Charlotte and Phoenix benched for their bad play.

Wouldn't you have said the same for JR Smith before he torched us in these playoffs? Talent doesn't go away. It simply needs to be harnessed and given direction.

[my2bits]

Gerald Green was not benched for his bad play. He was benched because those jackasses in PHX tried to have a 3 PG offense after wasting money signing Isaiah Thomas and Eric Bledsoe. This was after Dragic played like an all-star and won most improved player. No, Gerald was just a victim of the mad scientist syndrome. I wonder why Dragic also saw a drop in his playing time and production this year? Hmmm? Why did he suddenly decide that he definitely would be leaving the desert next year?

[Yungsta404]

I buy into the system, but i dont buy into the "You have to have all 5 guys who can score". I dont think its the death of the team if you go with a rebounding Center, or , play AH and PM at the 4/5 and then have a Gerald Green who can create offense.

yea I dont agree with bud's philosophy of having 5 scorers on the floor at all times. I think having a big that can protect the rim, rebound and anchor a defense at an elite level is more important than having a 5th scorer.

[hawkschop1]

get me these 15 men:

teague-schroder-mack
k.j. mcdaniels-korver-bazemore
carroll-sefolosha
millsap-muscala-scott-reggie evans
horford-drew gooden-frank kaminsky

[Rip2137]

Gerald Green was not benched for his bad play. He was benched because those jackasses in PHX tried to have a 3 PG offense after wasting money signing Isaiah Thomas and Eric Bledsoe. This was after Dragic played like an all-star and won most improved player. No, Gerald was just a victim of the mad scientist syndrome. I wonder why Dragic also saw a drop in his playing time and production this year? Hmmm? Why did he suddenly decide that he definitely would be leaving the desert next year?

"He was right on track with last season through December, but then fell off hard in January and, in Hornacek's eyes, never recovered until this past week or so.

Green has always been a one-trick guy. He shoots all the time. In fact, his 'usage rate' is a career high this year - % of touches that finish in a shot or assist. He has never been a good passer, or rebounder, or defender. Often, he gives up as many points as he scores."

"One of the biggest problems is that he breaks off plays constantly, preferring to take the first shot he can find rather than run the play that's been designed. Green is a maverick in every way. Sometimes it's beautiful. Often, its maddening. And that's just on offense. Green often loses his man on defense, turning his head to watch the ball only to get back-cut for a score.

In December, even when he was shooting well, his plus/minus shows that the other team outscored the Suns when he was on the court."

http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2015/ ... a-lot-more

From literally the first article I found since I wanted to check and see if my assessment was off or personally biased. This has literally been his scouting report since he was in Boston. This team can't afford guys that go to sleep defensively and offer nothing when their shot isn't falling. And since green went through a multi month slump where hr has shot below 25% from three and 40% from the field last year, he's just a guy you can't afford to have on the court consistently if you want to have a winning team.

[Hawk Eye]

get me these 15 men:

teague-schroder-mack
k.j. mcdaniels-korver-bazemore
carroll-sefolosha
millsap-muscala-scott-reggie evans
horford-drew gooden-frank kaminsky

What have you seen from KJ that would suggest starting him over Korver? I just think it would kind of be a slap in the face to Korver to start a guy over him who has barely any NBA experience under his belt. Dude never got any PT for Houston but he may have been injured and I think it was a case of putting up numbers on a bad team in his time with the 76ers.

[hawkschop1]

get me these 15 men:

teague-schroder-mack
k.j. mcdaniels-korver-bazemore
carroll-sefolosha
millsap-muscala-scott-reggie evans
horford-drew gooden-frank kaminsky

What have you seen from KJ that would suggest starting him over Korver? I just think it would kind of be a slap in the face to Korver to start a guy over him who has barely any NBA experience under his belt. Dude never got any PT for Houston but he may have been injured and I think it was a case of putting up numbers on a bad team in his time with the 76ers.

I would be banking on mcdaniels reaching his max potential within our system which isn't unreasonable given buds recent track record. I think the main focus should be to resign Paul and demarre the other needs for our club should come cheap. I think gooden (or maybe boozer) and mcdaniels are solid additions and I love the idea of bringing in Reggie Evans. No disrespect Korver i just thought it was the general census on this board that Korver at 35 would be better off the bench. Based on highlights mcdaniels shows playmaking ability so that'd help Jeffery


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[atlantabbq99]

Michael Beasley, Derrick Williams, Thomas Robinson, Anthony Bennett. .....

Does anybody think Budenholzer can work his magic and turn around any of the players above, just like he did with Millsap or Carroll?

[Jamaaliver]

Who are all these new people?

Where did they come from?

What are they talking about?

Can we get a new thread for introductions or something? Some of the suggestions here are just...WOW! Even for a fan board.

Just WOW...

[td00]

As we stand today, Brand and Antic are our only heavies and they aren't guaranteed to come back.
We don't matchup well with bigger frontlines. We gotta improve our rebounding numbers.

Speights sounds like a good idea, but can we focus on him at the same time we're trying to keep Sap and DMC?

Does a Faried fit with our lineup? We need to improve in that area with our depth, but that contract is much larger now.

Still think we need more length to offset that CLE frontline and more beef to offset the Wizard frontline.

[Rip2137]

I would love to give Anthony Bennett a look.