Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing (Part 2)

[dckingsfan]

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How did you get suspended?

[closg00]

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How did you get suspended?

Hands got suspended?

[dckingsfan]

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How did you get suspended?

Hands got suspended?

It says suspended on his account... hmmm, maybe he was defending another GM?

[dckingsfan]

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How did you get suspended?

Hands got suspended?

Nope...

Forum: The General Board
Topic: The Hawks May Need To Add Frontcourt Size Is Tyson Chandler A Realistic Possibility?

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Hmmm, probably about being Lebron's female dog...

[closg00]

How did you get suspended?

Hands got suspended?

It says suspended on his account... hmmm, maybe he was defending another GM?

Or defending Ernie elsewhere on one of these boards.

[dckingsfan]

Here you go closg00:

“Whoever would’ve drafted [Curry] would’ve turned their franchise around,’’ Nelson said. “We were lucky to get him. You build a franchise around those guys. Point guard nowadays is more important than centers.’’ New York Post

[closg00]

Here you go closg00:

“Whoever would’ve drafted [Curry] would’ve turned their franchise around,’’ Nelson said. “We were lucky to get him. You build a franchise around those guys. Point guard nowadays is more important than centers.’’ New York Post

For Grunfeld and Wizards, Trade Was a 'No-Brainer'
By Michael Lee
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, June 25, 2009

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 03397.html

Except for the one w/o the brains is Ernie Grunfeld .....

[colts18]

It's interesting to watch the MVP about to win a title and he was at one point considered worth less than Miller and Foye.

[FAH1223]

3 WEEKS until Grunfail trades our pick for peanuts.

[closg00]

It's interesting to watch the MVP about to win a title and he was at one point considered worth less than Miller and Foye.

Grunfeld added that it wasn't necessary to wait and see which player fell to the team at No. 5. "We knew who was going to be at the five spot and we felt that these players were going to help us a lot more than anybody we would've gotten in the draft," Grunfeld said.

...a few years later he thought Jan Vesely COULD help us more than Leonard and the others ....and he still has a job

[ptptpt]

All of this rationalizing for EG is #SoWizards

He still sucks. We really going to give him credit for not screwing up on 3 lotto picks? Really?

The throwing away of picks and signing old players to fill out a roster is short sighted and shows no asset management.

I definitely can agree with this. We can rationalize that he is doing a good job but it really is no excuse for the holes that this team has and the struggles this team has been through in recent years.

Asset management is a real weakness with this franchise and it is gonna hurt in the future, especially if in the next five years this team is not a championship contender. I'm never gonna sing Ernie's praises unless this franchise gets rings.

Ernie has yet to construct a 50 win roster with this franchise. This team has yet to go past the second round. This team as currently constructed is relying on role players either past their prime or close to it. I don't see optimism when there is a lot of player mismanagement happening. This team is not developing role players. I don't get how such mismanagement can go unchecked for so long. Why can't this team develop talent from lower rounds? Or can this team not scout very well? I just don't like how he values lower round picks as throwaway assets. Yes he can flip some good trades but would this team really need to do so if he was drafting and developing players? Ernie is not gonna get this team to the promised land as long as he does not do his due diligence scouting draft picks and developing players.

[TheSecretWeapon]

This is four paragraphs of Michael Lee reporting on widespread fail:

Since he was familiar with the strengths of both players, Saunders was immediately on board. "If we can get those two guys," Saunders recalled telling Grunfeld, "it's almost a no-brainer."

A day after trading the No. 5 pick in tonight's draft, Etan Thomas, Darius Songaila and Oleksiy Pecherov to the Minnesota for Miller and Foye, Grunfeld and Saunders were both optimistic about the direction of the franchise, which is looking to rebound from an injury-marred 19-63 season. "We feel good about this trade," Grunfeld said after pulling off arguably his third-biggest deal with the organization, behind the acquisitions of eventual all-stars Antawn Jamison and Caron Butler. "I thought, we get two rotation players who are proven commodities and proven they can play at this level."

A rival league executive said yesterday that the trade pushes the Wizards into the group of elite teams in the Eastern Conference, along with Orlando, Cleveland and Boston.

"I think it's a very good deal for Washington. They're right up there with the elite teams as far as talent goes," the executive said on the condition of anonymity because he is not at liberty to discuss other teams. "They have a very good coach. It's a matter of how quickly they pull it together and obviously, how healthy is [Gilbert] Arenas? You don't know. That's a significant thing. But I think they helped themselves with the trade. I think they are as talented as anybody."

Wow.

[FAH1223]

This is four paragraphs of Michael Lee reporting on widespread fail:

Since he was familiar with the strengths of both players, Saunders was immediately on board. "If we can get those two guys," Saunders recalled telling Grunfeld, "it's almost a no-brainer."

A day after trading the No. 5 pick in tonight's draft, Etan Thomas, Darius Songaila and Oleksiy Pecherov to the Minnesota for Miller and Foye, Grunfeld and Saunders were both optimistic about the direction of the franchise, which is looking to rebound from an injury-marred 19-63 season. "We feel good about this trade," Grunfeld said after pulling off arguably his third-biggest deal with the organization, behind the acquisitions of eventual all-stars Antawn Jamison and Caron Butler. "I thought, we get two rotation players who are proven commodities and proven they can play at this level."

A rival league executive said yesterday that the trade pushes the Wizards into the group of elite teams in the Eastern Conference, along with Orlando, Cleveland and Boston.

"I think it's a very good deal for Washington. They're right up there with the elite teams as far as talent goes," the executive said on the condition of anonymity because he is not at liberty to discuss other teams. "They have a very good coach. It's a matter of how quickly they pull it together and obviously, how healthy is [Gilbert] Arenas? You don't know. That's a significant thing. But I think they helped themselves with the trade. I think they are as talented as anybody."

Wow.

I remember reading that and I remember a lot of us on the board tried to rationalize it to cope

[sashae]

Quote from today's Zach Lowe:

Thompson had blown Saunders away during a pre-draft workout in 2011, when Saunders coached the Wizards. The Washington brain trust considered reaching for Thompson with the no. 6 pick before going the safe route with a big man — Jan Vesely, who ranked higher on most draft boards but is now out of the league. “We toyed with it,” Saunders says, “but heaven forbid you go out of the box and pick someone you’re higher on than anyone else.”

[FAH1223]

Quote from today's Zach Lowe:

Thompson had blown Saunders away during a pre-draft workout in 2011, when Saunders coached the Wizards. The Washington brain trust considered reaching for Thompson with the no. 6 pick before going the safe route with a big man — Jan Vesely, who ranked higher on most draft boards but is now out of the league. “We toyed with it,” Saunders says, “but heaven forbid you go out of the box and pick someone you’re higher on than anyone else.”

[MikeTheKid]

Quote from today's Zach Lowe:

Thompson had blown Saunders away during a pre-draft workout in 2011, when Saunders coached the Wizards. The Washington brain trust considered reaching for Thompson with the no. 6 pick before going the safe route with a big man — Jan Vesely, who ranked higher on most draft boards but is now out of the league. “We toyed with it,” Saunders says, “but heaven forbid you go out of the box and pick someone you’re higher on than anyone else.”

[LyricalRico]

Wasn't Thompson picked #4, meaning he wouldn't have been there at #6?

[closg00]

Wasn't Thompson picked #4, meaning he wouldn't have been there at #6?

Klay Thompson Rico.

Drafting failure after colossal drafting failure. This new information makes Grunfeld look even more stupid..if that is even possible.

Sell Clarkson, then use your 1st round pick this year to finally look for some talent at the back-up PG position (if they take Grant) This guy Grunfeld is a genius.

LOL, they thought Vesely was the safer pick.


#FireErnie ~ Because he believed Stephen Curry couldn't help us and Jan Vesely could.

[MikeTheKid]

Wasn't Thompson picked #4, meaning he wouldn't have been there at #6?

Klay went 11th in 2011, Tristan Thompson was 4. EG could've possibly traded down to 10 and still got Klay.

[LyricalRico]

Oh, I was mixing up Tristan and Klay.