How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul?

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Was LeBron's Slide Tackle on Steph Curry a Foul?

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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#21 » by The Realist » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:06 am

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Bertrob wrote:definitely a foul. but if warriors fans think this officiating has been Cavs bias this series, they're crazy


Nothing this extreme though, this was literally a tackle.


Lebron's last drive in the first half was much, much worse.
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#22 » by pelifan » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:07 am

he clearly fumbled before the tackle. 15 yard penalty but still 1st down cle
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#23 » by thizznation » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:09 am

pelifan wrote:he clearly fumbled before the tackle. 15 yard penalty but still 1st down cle


Did not fumble, LeBron got a little hand on the ball one tenth of a second before he barreled into him at full speed. That is a foul my friend.
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#24 » by Hero » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:10 am

Funny how nobody makes threads about all the calls that go GSW's way.
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#25 » by pelifan » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:11 am

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pelifan wrote:he clearly fumbled before the tackle. 15 yard penalty but still 1st down cle


Did not fumble, LeBron got a little hand on the ball one tenth of a second before he barreled into him at full speed. That is a foul my friend.


that was a joke.
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#26 » by thizznation » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:12 am

Hero wrote:Funny how nobody makes threads about all the calls that go GSW's way.


Incidental slap on the wrist in the packed paint does not equal someone getting slide tackled in open court, sorry.
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#27 » by azwfan » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:13 am

That whole series was BS.
Curry gets slide tackled by James, no call.
Then Delladova clearly gets the ball, Lee jumps onto him leading with his hip (not even close to the ball) - no call.
Then Lee and Draymond Green grab the ball with Delly on the ground to tie him up... THEN the whistle blows for a foul call.

I understand its tough to referee. These are big dudes moving extremely fast, and being very physical. But that was a terrible sequence and they have been very inconsistent.

Still, the Cavs are playing like they wanna win. The Warriors are playing like crap. Lebron's experience and leadership is the difference. Even though there were numerous things to whine about with the refs, the team that should have won, won.
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#28 » by Hero » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:13 am

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Hero wrote:Funny how nobody makes threads about all the calls that go GSW's way.


Incidental slap on the wrist in the packed paint does not equal someone getting slide tackled in open court, sorry.


Illegal screens, undercutting on a dunk, slapping the hand...

They're much worse, you're right.
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#29 » by xAIRNESSx » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:13 am

You could argue the ball was loose and LeBron made a dive at the ball, which is usually not a foul even if there is contact during the dive.
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#30 » by thizznation » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:14 am

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thizznation wrote:
Hero wrote:Funny how nobody makes threads about all the calls that go GSW's way.


Incidental slap on the wrist in the packed paint does not equal someone getting slide tackled in open court, sorry.


Illegal screens, undercutting on a dunk, slapping the hand...

They're much worse, you're right.


Show me a more obvious and dangerous foul then that LeBron tackle on Curry.
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#31 » by zimpy27 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:14 am

Bertrob wrote:definitely a foul. but if warriors fans think this officiating has been Cavs bias this series, they're crazy


Seriously been against the cavs. But I think the refs are acting to make games close. They seem to favour whoever is down.
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#32 » by Fantaxp7 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:14 am

Ok so we've clearly established that the Warriors got a lot of calls. Enough of that.

It looks like a pretty ridiculous no-call. Not like a missed travel or double dribble. Unless you can really knock the ball out of someones hands and then tackle them.
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#33 » by pelifan » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:15 am

azwfan wrote:Curry gets slide tackled by James, no call.


clean tackle, no yellow card. Might have been a handball on the play though.
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#34 » by thizznation » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:15 am

xAIRNESSx wrote:You could argue the ball was loose and LeBron made a dive at the ball, which is usually not a foul even if there is contact during the dive.


It is a slim argument to say the ball was loose. You can't tell if it is or not because Curry gets blown up by LeBron literally a tenth of a second after the ball supposedly gets dislodged.
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#35 » by jcuuofd » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:16 am

How about the refs start calling fouls for every moving screen set by the Cavs? Thompson and Mozgov would foul out in the first half of every game.
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#36 » by E-Balla » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:18 am

Bertrob wrote:definitely a foul. but if warriors fans think this officiating has been Cavs bias this series, they're crazy

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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#37 » by Doc_Brown » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:18 am

I mean, that's a foul but I don't understand why people are acting like this is the worst thing ever. Curry's leg gets trapped in LeBron's crotch and he trips- that's where the foul is. LeBron's legs don't go through Curry or anything, and higher up he just deflected the ball away. I think it is a foul, so the refs did miss one here, but I don't get why this is such a big deal, refs miss stuff obvious all the time. By the time Curry tripped the action was happening elsewhere as well.

Curry did himself no favors hesitating either, but still a foul. I guess I'm just surprised there's a thread on this.
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#38 » by OsuCavsfan103 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:19 am

Same reason that the refs don't call the billions of moving screens the Warriors commit while Curry is running around like a maniac.
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#39 » by The Realist » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:19 am

Fantaxp7 wrote:Ok so we've clearly established that the Warriors got a lot of calls. Enough of that.

It looks like a pretty ridiculous no-call. Not like a missed travel or double dribble. Unless you can really knock the ball out of someones hands and then tackle them.


Even if you think this was more ridiculous than other missed calls (which it isn't btw), the cost is the same for all the missed calls. That's why quantity matters, not quality.
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Re: How is this LeBron James tackle not a foul? 

Post#40 » by LOUiS-D » Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:19 am

It's a foul, but I can tell you why it doesn't get called. The play happens in transition, moving into half court offense, an unusual timing for a turnover. The center official has primary coverage of the play, the trail is still making his way up court.

Moments prior to LeBron making his initial play for the ball Klay and Tristan break the center official's line of sight. As the ball becomes dislodged you then have Delly stepping across the play.

At the point where from our angle Steph's legs are getting taken out the center official has Delly, Steph and Bron stacked up. At this same time the trail official arrives and gets the exact reverse angle (you can draw a straight line official to official and Delly, Steph, and Bron are all on it).

You have the two refs responsible for the play with no depth perception. The lead has the best angle on it, but it's outside of his coverage and his view of the play is also obstructed by multiple players. The crew got caught out of position in an off beat play.

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