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Re: Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#81 » by DayofMourning » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:52 am

Hopefully no big deal. Sometimes things like this don't go according to plan. He's young, your team has time. An immediate return would be so much more fun, but a delayed start could still lead to a strong finish.
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Re: Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#82 » by N Y K » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:53 am

76ciology wrote:Well, FWIW, Kristap-Noel combo seems promising. Both can play big and small. Kristap can also space out the floor very well.

Firstly, I come in peace!!

Crap news on Embiid, sorry. I'm curious, you would go Porzingis over Okafor at three if lets say Lakers go guard with two?

Porzingis momentum is seriously strong right now.
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Re: Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#83 » by GiantRobot » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:54 am

Oh good, the whiny part of the fan base has something to post about. Always good, especially before any detailed information comes out.

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Post#84 » by Los5782 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:54 am

TBH I'm down with BPA, I don't follow collegiate play or international play, I'll trust Hinkie & co. KP6 looks nice though off the little I've seen.
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Post#85 » by Ericb5 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:57 am

This sucks obviously.

At least it wasn't a reinjuring of the foot with additional damage and pain.

It really puts into perspective why you take Okafor if he is there though. You just operate as if Embiid will not be healthy. Porzingis could be the pick if Hinkie really likes him too.

Fingers crossed for Joel.



This may be, and hopefully is, nothing much and is just them being conservative, but now I will be panicked until I hear good news.



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Post#86 » by Sixerscan » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:57 am

JordanMars wrote:What i find interesting is how the sixers came out with the statement within minutes of the woj report, maybe it could be a smokescreen


I think Woj might have found out about it and gave Sixers a heads up that he was going to run the article, so they would have time to get a press release ready. It's a not uncommon gesture of good will by a reporter, especially a pro like Woj.

We'll see about all this. The fact that he isn't in pain is good. Lot of time before the season starts.
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Post#87 » by Ericb5 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:58 am

CharlesOakleeey wrote:
76ciology wrote:Well, FWIW, Kristap-Noel combo seems promising. Both can play big and small. Kristap can also space out the floor very well.

Firstly, I come in peace!!

Crap news on Embiid, sorry. I'm curious, you would go Porzingis over Okafor at three if lets say Lakers go guard with two?

Porzingis momentum is seriously strong right now.


I can't see Porzingis being taken before Okafor, but maybe before Russell.


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Post#88 » by N Y K » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:00 am

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CharlesOakleeey wrote:
76ciology wrote:Well, FWIW, Kristap-Noel combo seems promising. Both can play big and small. Kristap can also space out the floor very well.

Firstly, I come in peace!!

Crap news on Embiid, sorry. I'm curious, you would go Porzingis over Okafor at three if lets say Lakers go guard with two?

Porzingis momentum is seriously strong right now.


I can't see Porzingis being taken before Okafor, but maybe before Russell.


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Interesting. Don't know, I thought the plan has all been to go guard, not sure this is enough to alter that plan. But do agree about Okafor over Porzingis.
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Re: Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#89 » by Unbreakable99 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:03 am

If you remember to when Hinkie drafted Embiid he said that Embiid would have to pass certain levels to progress to the next step. Hinkie has experience with Yao. I think Hinkie has a certain bone recovery point in order for Embiid to play basketball. I just want to hear what Hinkie says to us about this. I DEMAND HINKIE HOLD AN EMERGENCY PRESS CONFERENCE TOMORROW TO DISCUSS ALL THINGS EMBIID OR HE SHOULD BE FIRED ON THE SPOT LOL.
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Re: Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#90 » by 76ciology » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:03 am

CharlesOakleeey wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:
CharlesOakleeey wrote:Firstly, I come in peace!!

Crap news on Embiid, sorry. I'm curious, you would go Porzingis over Okafor at three if lets say Lakers go guard with two?

Porzingis momentum is seriously strong right now.


I can't see Porzingis being taken before Okafor, but maybe before Russell.


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Interesting. Don't know, I thought the plan has all been to go guard, not sure this is enough to alter that plan. But do agree about Okafor over Porzingis.


No, plan was to get the player that can be a superstar regardless of needs.
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Post#91 » by AAKing23 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:04 am

This is such a kick in the stomach
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Post#92 » by N Y K » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:07 am

76ciology wrote:
CharlesOakleeey wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:
I can't see Porzingis being taken before Okafor, but maybe before Russell.


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Interesting. Don't know, I thought the plan has all been to go guard, not sure this is enough to alter that plan. But do agree about Okafor over Porzingis.


No, plan was to get the player that can be a superstar regardless of needs.

Sure, that's what I'm hoping is Phil's plan in NY, but we have no clue with this guy.

So this doesn't change the plan at all, right? And who is that star in this case, Porzingis or Okafor?
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Post#93 » by Los5782 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:07 am

CharlesOakleeey wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:
CharlesOakleeey wrote:Firstly, I come in peace!!

Crap news on Embiid, sorry. I'm curious, you would go Porzingis over Okafor at three if lets say Lakers go guard with two?

Porzingis momentum is seriously strong right now.


I can't see Porzingis being taken before Okafor, but maybe before Russell.


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Interesting. Don't know, I thought the plan has all been to go guard, not sure this is enough to alter that plan. But do agree about Okafor over Porzingis.


Think the plan is & has been to go BPA, until there's a set superstar/franchise player, & as long as the team is picking in the lottery; I think Hinkie will continue to go BPA. It was convenient that Russ seemed like he'd be BPA a 3, after Kat & Oak, & happened to be a position of need. Now that KP6 is seems to have shot up, BPA is not as clear anymore, I dare say IMO (which isn't worth much seeing as I only follow NBA basketball) that KP6 maybe, POSSIBLY surpassing Russ.

From what I've seen & know which is limited, I wouldn't be upset at either. Then again at 3 I'd be happy with Kat, Oak, KP6, Russ, or Mudiay... I think currently I'd go big man, one of the 3, think they have the highest ceilings in the draft.
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Re: Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#94 » by 76ciology » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:07 am

Embiid had been expected to participate with Sixers' summer league teams in July, but that could jeopardized now, sources said. For now, it is too soon to tell how long Embiid will be kept out.

Embiid had surgery for a stress fracture in his foot several days before the 2014 draft, and the Sixers ultimately decided for him to sit out the entirety of his rookie season. Eyewitness accounts of Embiid's workouts in recent weeks in Southern California described dominant, explosive performances, offering a glimpse into the kind of potential that could have had Embiid selected first overall in the 2014 draft. He had been the dominant player in the predraft process after playing one season at Kansas.
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Post#95 » by Unbreakable99 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:08 am

For the record I would rather have an injured Embiid over a healthy Exum or Randle or Vonleh or Stauskas or Smart. Drafting Embiid was the right move last year. You swing for the fences.
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Post#96 » by ZarcMumoff » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:08 am

CharlesOakleeey wrote:
76ciology wrote:Well, FWIW, Kristap-Noel combo seems promising. Both can play big and small. Kristap can also space out the floor very well.

Firstly, I come in peace!!

Crap news on Embiid, sorry. I'm curious, you would go Porzingis over Okafor at three if lets say Lakers go guard with two?

Porzingis momentum is seriously strong right now.


Hinkie is going to go best player available. Who he thinks that is, who the hell knows.
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Post#97 » by Skates » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:09 am

When Hinkie talks about 'optionality', this is the reason. A single, straight line plan can't deal with something like a top draft pick failing (worst case scenario obviously), but all of those assets and picks are stockpiled for a reason. Options. It allows the team to take risks in guys like Noel and Embiid and still have backup options in place.

If Embiid was in perfect health and Okafor fell to us I would pick him, so for me any possible Embiid set back does not change things from my point of view. Until the team is much closer to being set with several established young veterans it will be BPA and asset acquisition as priorities, not fit.

It is weird for this news to come out on a Saturday evening, the conspiracy theorist in me says they knew about it before today and it ties in with the sudden talk about bringing Saric over to bolster the front line.
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Post#98 » by 76ciology » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:10 am

CharlesOakleeey wrote:
76ciology wrote:
CharlesOakleeey wrote:Interesting. Don't know, I thought the plan has all been to go guard, not sure this is enough to alter that plan. But do agree about Okafor over Porzingis.


No, plan was to get the player that can be a superstar regardless of needs.

Sure, that's what I'm hoping is Phil's plan in NY, but we have no clue with this guy.

So this doesn't change the plan at all, right? And who is that star in this case, Porzingis or Okafor?


My guess is Porzingis. Advanced stats favors defensive big man. Porzingis also has a higher upside due to his athleticism. Also seems like a good fit for Noel and Joel.

Personally Porzingis is second on my board after Towns. But was leaning to draft Mudiay because of needs and I personally think in 2-3 seasons, both Porzingis and Mudiay would have improved their flaws (physique and shooting), so margin of difference for upside seems small.
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Post#99 » by Bigballer74 » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:11 am

CoreyGallagher wrote:
JordanMars wrote:Yao and Bill Walton had the same foot issue and it ended up ending there careers. This is bad

McHale and Big Z also had this same foot issue. Didn't end their careers.

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Post#100 » by LongLiveHinkie » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:11 am

CharlesOakleeey wrote:
76ciology wrote:
CharlesOakleeey wrote:Interesting. Don't know, I thought the plan has all been to go guard, not sure this is enough to alter that plan. But do agree about Okafor over Porzingis.


No, plan was to get the player that can be a superstar regardless of needs.

Sure, that's what I'm hoping is Phil's plan in NY, but we have no clue with this guy.

So this doesn't change the plan at all, right? And who is that star in this case, Porzingis or Okafor?


I think if Okafor is there at 3, Hinkie will take him. Over anyone but Towns. Can't know Hinkie's board for sure, though.

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