Embiid Updates/Discussion

[Sixerscan]

Interesting. Don't know, I thought the plan has all been to go guard, not sure this is enough to alter that plan. But do agree about Okafor over Porzingis.

No, plan was to get the player that can be a superstar regardless of needs.

Sure, that's what I'm hoping is Phil's plan in NY, but we have no clue with this guy.

So this doesn't change the plan at all, right? And who is that star in this case, Porzingis or Okafor?

Anyone who gives you definitive answer to how Hinkie feels about this is making it up.

[76ciology]

When Hinkie talks about 'optionality', this is the reason. A single, straight line plan can't deal with something like a top draft pick failing (worst case scenario obviously), but all of those assets and picks are stockpiled for a reason. Options. It allows the team to take risks in guys like Noel and Embiid and still have backup options in place.

If Embiid was in perfect health and Okafor fell to us I would pick him, so for me any possible Embiid set back does not change things from my point of view. Until the team is much closer to being set with several established young veterans it will be BPA and asset acquisition as priorities, not fit.

It is weird for this news to come out on a Saturday evening, the conspiracy theorist in me says they knew about it before today and it ties in with the sudden talk about bringing Saric over to bolster the front line.

Conspiracy theorist in me says Hinkie is using this to send strong signal that they will take porzingis and would in effect force teams to trade up or else be forced to draft WCS or Winslow

[kingofthecourt67]

fml

[76ciology]

Embiid had been expected to participate with Sixers' summer league teams in July, but that could jeopardized now, sources said. For now, it is too soon to tell how long Embiid will be kept out.

Embiid had surgery for a stress fracture in his foot several days before the 2014 draft, and the Sixers ultimately decided for him to sit out the entirety of his rookie season. Eyewitness accounts of Embiid's workouts in recent weeks in Southern California described dominant, explosive performances, offering a glimpse into the kind of potential that could have had Embiid selected first overall in the 2014 draft. He had been the dominant player in the predraft process after playing one season at Kansas.

Kind of interesting to hear that Embiid didn't show signs of pain or injury before he was diagnosed. If I can recall it was the same case before they found out the injury pre draft, If I'm correct, he was still able to play football in the park.

[Ericb5]

For the record I would rather have an injured Embiid over a healthy Exum or Randle or Vonleh or Stauskas or Smart. Drafting Embiid was the right move last year. You swing for the fences.

Absolutely.

Nothing has changed in the last hour other than we got some bad news. We all have known that Embiid is an injury risk, and that this is a very scary and serious injury.

It won't change Hinkie's view of the draft imo, but it certainly makes it more likely for the fans to be on board with a big man selection at 3.

The next update will be key to how serious this is. If it requires surgery to fix then that would be devastating.

If it just requires more rest, and he sits out of the summer league(which he will probably do for sure now) then that isn't a big deal. As long as it isn't reinjured and he isn't feeling pain, I'm not sure how bad it could really be.




Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums

[N Y K]

I'll say this, it's crazy how much opinions on player rankings differ person to person and across each teams forum.

I'll also say that I've heard some really good arguments for a lot players and thing a lot of teams are going to be very happy with who they pick.

For you guys, not sure where your later picks are, but getting a PG later round makes a lot of sense. This year is pretty stacked at that position.

[76ciology]

And I don't know.. I'd still rather have a shaky embiid (not oden health more of would take more time to recover) over ACL randle and Jabari, and role player potential of Exum. To some extent, even healthy Wiggins.

[Bigballer74]

Embiid had been expected to participate with Sixers' summer league teams in July, but that could jeopardized now, sources said. For now, it is too soon to tell how long Embiid will be kept out.

Embiid had surgery for a stress fracture in his foot several days before the 2014 draft, and the Sixers ultimately decided for him to sit out the entirety of his rookie season. Eyewitness accounts of Embiid's workouts in recent weeks in Southern California described dominant, explosive performances, offering a glimpse into the kind of potential that could have had Embiid selected first overall in the 2014 draft. He had been the dominant player in the predraft process after playing one season at Kansas.

Kind of interesting to hear that Embiid didn't show signs of pain or injury before he was diagnosed. If I can recall it was the same case before they found out the injury pre draft, If I'm correct, he was still able to play football in the park.

Nah, he had pain and that was the reason they checked him out. The 1st time that is.

[KKell2507]

In terms of BPA this changes nothing for me. Russell to me has the 2nd highest ceiling in the draft behind KAT. I draft Russell at #3 and move on to other issues.

As far as Embiid. I agree with what Sixerscan said a few posts ago. Woj is the best in the business in any sport in my opinion. One thing hes had a terrible time doing is breaking Sixers news stories since HInkie took over. Looks like he got a hold of one this time. Would not at all be surprised if he informed them of knowing the news so they had time to attempt some damage control. THat would be professional on his part and an attempt at getting future info from them. A statement from Hinkie is never a smokescreen. Because Hinkie just being quiet as our GM has been the ultimate smokecreen for 2+ years now. This is for sure a setback. Now whether its back into a boot setback, or stop doing between the legs dunks for a week setback has yet to be determined. Either way its not good news.

Time will tell how this affects the Sixers. I was looking forward to seeing him in summer league, but honestly there is still plenty of time to get him ready for opening night. thats the only thing that really matters.

[Ericb5]

Embiid had been expected to participate with Sixers' summer league teams in July, but that could jeopardized now, sources said. For now, it is too soon to tell how long Embiid will be kept out.

Embiid had surgery for a stress fracture in his foot several days before the 2014 draft, and the Sixers ultimately decided for him to sit out the entirety of his rookie season. Eyewitness accounts of Embiid's workouts in recent weeks in Southern California described dominant, explosive performances, offering a glimpse into the kind of potential that could have had Embiid selected first overall in the 2014 draft. He had been the dominant player in the predraft process after playing one season at Kansas.

Kind of interesting to hear that Embiid didn't show signs of pain or injury before he was diagnosed. If I can recall it was the same case before they found out the injury pre draft, If I'm correct, he was still able to play football in the park.

The first foot injury was discovered when he felt pain after a workout. They went to the hospital as a precaution and found the injury. It was discovered immediately after the first sign of pain.


Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums

[Arsenal]

When Hinkie talks about 'optionality', this is the reason. A single, straight line plan can't deal with something like a top draft pick failing (worst case scenario obviously), but all of those assets and picks are stockpiled for a reason. Options. It allows the team to take risks in guys like Noel and Embiid and still have backup options in place.

If Embiid was in perfect health and Okafor fell to us I would pick him, so for me any possible Embiid set back does not change things from my point of view. Until the team is much closer to being set with several established young veterans it will be BPA and asset acquisition as priorities, not fit.

It is weird for this news to come out on a Saturday evening, the conspiracy theorist in me says they knew about it before today and it ties in with the sudden talk about bringing Saric over to bolster the front line.

Conspiracy theorist in me says Hinkie is using this to send strong signal that they will take porzingis and would in effect force teams to trade up or else be forced to draft WCS or Winslow

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Hinkie is using this news in an attempt to manipulate perceptions of what he might do prior to the draft.

[snoopdogg88]

Disappointed but not surprised at this whatsoever

I caught a lot of flak on this board for hating the Embiid pick since day 1. Injured big men stay injured.
This is going to be the story of Joel Embiid's (lack of) career. It's always going to be something with him.

He sat out his entire rookie season and still isn't healthy. This is just a mess.

[76ciology]

Embiid had been expected to participate with Sixers' summer league teams in July, but that could jeopardized now, sources said. For now, it is too soon to tell how long Embiid will be kept out.

Embiid had surgery for a stress fracture in his foot several days before the 2014 draft, and the Sixers ultimately decided for him to sit out the entirety of his rookie season. Eyewitness accounts of Embiid's workouts in recent weeks in Southern California described dominant, explosive performances, offering a glimpse into the kind of potential that could have had Embiid selected first overall in the 2014 draft. He had been the dominant player in the predraft process after playing one season at Kansas.

Kind of interesting to hear that Embiid didn't show signs of pain or injury before he was diagnosed. If I can recall it was the same case before they found out the injury pre draft, If I'm correct, he was still able to play football in the park.

The first foot injury was discovered when he felt pain after a workout. They went to the hospital as a precaution and found the injury. It was discovered immediately after the first sign of pain.


Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums

It's quite a psych war with Phil. Russell canceling and tweets misdirection by Phil. You guys need to understand that this draft is a major fail if Knicks don't end up with Russell. They'd waste Mudiay's talent with the triangle. They won't draft Kristap due to rawness. You're now looking at the possibility of WCS and Winslow at the 4th.

[Skates]

Disappointed but not surprised at this whatsoever

I caught a lot of flak on this board for hating the Embiid pick since day 1. Injured big men stay injured.
This is going to be the story of Joel Embiid's (lack of) career. It's always going to be something with him.

He sat out his entire rookie season and still isn't healthy. This is just a mess.

Exactly, look at that Noel guy, dude can barely walk, right?

Embiid was a value pick who fell based on the injury. Comparing his simple fracture to Yao as some have done ignores a lot of the medicine. Yao had a spiderweb of fractures in that bone, Embiid's break was not like that. It is, was and will be a calculated risk, but playing it safe 100% of the time rarely equals greatness. The team is well positioned no matter what happens with Embiid, he just determines which path of many that we follow.

[Sixerscan]

Why don't they just make him a new foot. How hard could it be.

[Hardcore6erFan]

To be honest I never really envisioned Embiid ever being healthy so I'm not as crushed as some of you. #allinforokafor

[LongLiveHinkie]

Why don't they just make him a new foot. How hard could it be.

Especially with 3D printers. They can make anything.

[LongLiveHinkie]

The reason I don't care about taking Embiid is because I really didn't like Gordon, Exum, Randle, Smart that much at all. If they had the 2nd pick and passed on Parker for him or passed on Wiggins, it would be a totally different story. I think all of the above guys I mentioned(excluding Wiggins/Parker) are going to be mere role players in the NBA. Embiid has superstar potential. Can't be afraid to fail. I've always hated playing it safe.

[Mik317]

Disappointed but not surprised at this whatsoever

I caught a lot of flak on this board for hating the Embiid pick since day 1. Injured big men stay injured.
This is going to be the story of Joel Embiid's (lack of) career. It's always going to be something with him.

He sat out his entire rookie season and still isn't healthy. This is just a mess.

yeah...you warned us about this potential..

sucks that it had to happen.

BRB Watching some Kristaps Mixtape with awful rap songs over it.

fuuuuuuck

[wickedwrister]

This sucks.

I guess the only positive at this point is its slow healing and not a re-injury. Hopefully rest fixes it all and not another surgery.