Marcin Gortat Polish Hammer appreciation thread.

[Revived]

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Stretch 4 eh?

[Illmatic12]

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Stretch 4 eh?

Draymond is worth a max to the Warriors (who also don't care about paying the lux tax) but not to any other team.

[hands11]

A couple weeks ago some sh**ty Polish gossip website had an article in which Gortat's father was quoted saying that Marcin hasn't been taking care of him and that he was promised some money which he hasn't got. A couple days later Marcin's mother said it was all bullsh** and that Marcin is the best son ever Gortat wisely stayed out of this whole mess but this might be the distraction he was referring to. Just my guess, though...

Interesting - dad pinging son for some cash in the press - sheesh

All fathers are not created equally. Some are real POS's

Amazing but true.

[Furinkazan]

A couple weeks ago some sh**ty Polish gossip website had an article in which Gortat's father was quoted saying that Marcin hasn't been taking care of him and that he was promised some money which he hasn't got. A couple days later Marcin's mother said it was all bullsh** and that Marcin is the best son ever Gortat wisely stayed out of this whole mess but this might be the distraction he was referring to. Just my guess, though...

Interesting - dad pinging son for some cash in the press - sheesh

It was Gortat's step brother who came out with this story to the press ...not dad.

[nate33]

Draymond is worth a max to the Warriors (who also don't care about paying the lux tax) but not to any other team.

I would willingly pay Green the max. The 2015 max for a 4-year player, that is (starting at roughly $16M). I wouldn't want to pay him the 2016 max starting at $22M.

[hands11]

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2015/5/27/8671449/wizards-2014-15-end-of-season-awards

Co-Defensive Player of the Year: Marcin Gortat

Stats - 8.7 RPG, 1.3 BPG, 97.5 Defensive Rating

Marcin Gortat can’t provide the gravity-defying blocks you might get out of Anthony Davis or DeAndre Jordan, but Gortat is quietly one of the NBA’s most efficient rim protectors.

Gortat was fifth among centers that played at least 50 games in defensive rating (points allowed per 100 possessions while a player is on the floor), and was first among centers that averaged at least 25 minutes a game. Also, per NBA.com, opposing players only shot 48.6 percent at the rim when Gortat was defending their shot. This is a number that stacks up favorably against notable NBA rim protectors such as DeAndre Jordan (48.5%), Andre Drummond (48%), and even the NBA’s top shot blocker Anthony Davis (48.6%).


And after ranking very poorly in WAR and RPM early in the year, he rebounded to end up

9th RPM
6th WAR

For centers.

Last year he was

3rd RPM
3rd WAR

Gortat is a solid piece to have at center. And would be even better if they acknowledged him as a key piece such they he was core to every game plan.

[nate33]

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2015/5/27/8671449/wizards-2014-15-end-of-season-awards

Co-Defensive Player of the Year: Marcin Gortat

Stats - 8.7 RPG, 1.3 BPG, 97.5 Defensive Rating

Marcin Gortat can’t provide the gravity-defying blocks you might get out of Anthony Davis or DeAndre Jordan, but Gortat is quietly one of the NBA’s most efficient rim protectors.

Gortat was fifth among centers that played at least 50 games in defensive rating (points allowed per 100 possessions while a player is on the floor), and was first among centers that averaged at least 25 minutes a game. Also, per NBA.com, opposing players only shot 48.6 percent at the rim when Gortat was defending their shot. This is a number that stacks up favorably against notable NBA rim protectors such as DeAndre Jordan (48.5%), Andre Drummond (48%), and even the NBA’s top shot blocker Anthony Davis (48.6%).


And after ranking very poorly in WAR and RPM early in the year, he rebounded to end up

9th RPM
6th WAR

For centers.

Last year he was

3rd RPM
3rd WAR

Gortat is a solid piece to have at center. And would be even better if they acknowledged him as a key piece such they he was core to every game plan.

Thanks for posting that, hands11. Gortat continues to be very underrated on this board and league-wide. He's a top 10 center in this league and would have posted even better numbers if we played with a stretch four all season.

[hands11]

Wizards' Marcin Gortat, Nene Preparing For Potential Lineup Changes
Posted on June 12, 2015 by Justin Silberman

http://www.pressboxdc.com/2015/06/12/wizards-marcin-gortat-nene-preparing-for-potential-lineup-changes

[Rafael122]

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2015/5/27/8671449/wizards-2014-15-end-of-season-awards

Co-Defensive Player of the Year: Marcin Gortat

Stats - 8.7 RPG, 1.3 BPG, 97.5 Defensive Rating

Marcin Gortat can’t provide the gravity-defying blocks you might get out of Anthony Davis or DeAndre Jordan, but Gortat is quietly one of the NBA’s most efficient rim protectors.

Gortat was fifth among centers that played at least 50 games in defensive rating (points allowed per 100 possessions while a player is on the floor), and was first among centers that averaged at least 25 minutes a game. Also, per NBA.com, opposing players only shot 48.6 percent at the rim when Gortat was defending their shot. This is a number that stacks up favorably against notable NBA rim protectors such as DeAndre Jordan (48.5%), Andre Drummond (48%), and even the NBA’s top shot blocker Anthony Davis (48.6%).


And after ranking very poorly in WAR and RPM early in the year, he rebounded to end up

9th RPM
6th WAR

For centers.

Last year he was

3rd RPM
3rd WAR

Gortat is a solid piece to have at center. And would be even better if they acknowledged him as a key piece such they he was core to every game plan.

Thanks for posting that, hands11. Gortat continues to be very underrated on this board and league-wide. He's a top 10 center in this league and would have posted even better numbers if we played with a stretch four all season.

Love him, just wish he would finish with authority. He misses 2-3 bunnies per game, if he just went in and dunked it.

[Sluggerface]

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Stretch 4 eh?

Draymond is worth a max to the Warriors (who also don't care about paying the lux tax) but not to any other team.

So he's worth a max to the best team in the league, a team that posted one of the greatest seasons of all time, and he has skills that are valuable and will translate on pretty much every team in the league, but he's not worth the max to anyone else? Doesn't make a lot of sense.

[nate33]

Love him, just wish he would finish with authority. He misses 2-3 bunnies per game, if he just went in and dunked it.

I think this belief that Gortat routinely misses interior shots is rooted in anecdotal fallacy. You see it happen from time to time and infer that it's happening much more often than it really is, and further, you mistakenly believe that others aren't also missing "bunnies" from time to time.

Gortat is a highly efficient shooter on respectable volume. He shot .566 from the floor last year, which ranked him 4th in the league in FG% among guys taking 7 FGA's per game or more (Gortat averaged 9.5 FGA's/G). Only one guy in the league scored more points than him while shooting a better FG%: Dwight Howard.

If Gortat was truly missing 2-3 "bunnies" per game, and instead he made them, he would average 20.7 points per 36 minutes on a FG% of 83%. I think that's an unreasonable expectation.

[TheSecretWeapon]

Love him, just wish he would finish with authority. He misses 2-3 bunnies per game, if he just went in and dunked it.

I think this belief that Gortat routinely misses interior shots is rooted in anecdotal fallacy. You see it happen from time to time and infer that it's happening much more often than it really is and further, you mistakenly believe that others aren't also missing "bunnies" from time to time.

Gortat is a highly efficient shooter on respectable volume. He shot .566 from the floor last year, which ranked him 4th in the league in FG% among guys taking 7 FGA's per game or more (Gortat averaged 9.5 FGA's/G). Only one guy in the league scored more points than him while shooting a better FG%: Dwight Howard.

If Gortat was truly missing 2-3 "bunnies" per game, and instead he made them, he would average 20.7 points per 36 minutes on a FG% of 83%. I think that's an unreasonable expectation.

Let's go to the numbers. This past season, among players with at least 50 FGA from three feet or closer, Gortat ranked 11th in FG% at 74.1%. The only guy with more attempts from that range with a higher percentage was Derrick Favors, and just barely -- 74.6%.

Last season, Gortat's conversion rate on "bunnies" was as good or better than:

- DeAndre Jordan .739
- Anthony Davis .736
- Dwight Howard .725
- Lebron James .722
- Tim Duncan .714
- Rudy Gobert .710
- Blake Griffin .705

In 2013-14, Gortat ranked 8th in at-rim FGA. In 2012-13, he was 30th. In 2011-12, he was 15th.

Converting around the basket is a STRENGTH for Gortat. It's consistently been a strength for him. Not a weakness. Not no way, not no how.

[Illmatic12]

Stretch 4 eh?

Draymond is worth a max to the Warriors (who also don't care about paying the lux tax) but not to any other team.

So he's worth a max to the best team in the league, a team that posted one of the greatest seasons of all time, and he has skills that are valuable and will translate on pretty much every team in the league, but he's not worth the max to anyone else? Doesn't make a lot of sense.

Green is great defensively, but the Warriors offensive system hid his lack of scoring prowess. So on some teams (not all, but many) he wouldn't necessarily live up to the billing of a max player.

For the Wiz, who already run a switching defense and have other elite players to put next to Green, I would pay him the *rookie* max due to his youth - ~$15mil/yr would be my limit though, before I start considering better players I could pursue with that money like say, Jimmy Butler.

[nate33]

I think Green is fine as a complimentary, 4th option scorer. You don't give him the ball and tell him to score, but if a primary scorer can draw the defense away, Green is capable of knocking down a 3 or attacking a closing defender and taking it to the rim. He's good enough to punish a defense if they ignore him. That's all he needs to be.

[fishercob]

I think Green is fine as a complimentary, 4th option scorer. You don't give him the ball and tell him to score, but if a primary scorer can draw the defense away, Green is capable of knocking down a 3 or attacking a closing defender and taking it to the rim. He's good enough to punish a defense if they ignore him. That's all he needs to be.

Well, he's also an exceptional passer, which is a huge part of what makes him an offensive weapon.

[nate33]

I think Green is fine as a complimentary, 4th option scorer. You don't give him the ball and tell him to score, but if a primary scorer can draw the defense away, Green is capable of knocking down a 3 or attacking a closing defender and taking it to the rim. He's good enough to punish a defense if they ignore him. That's all he needs to be.

Well, he's also an exceptional passer, which is a huge part of what makes him an offensive weapon.

Yes. That too.

[hands11]

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2015/5/27/8671449/wizards-2014-15-end-of-season-awards

Co-Defensive Player of the Year: Marcin Gortat

Stats - 8.7 RPG, 1.3 BPG, 97.5 Defensive Rating

Marcin Gortat can’t provide the gravity-defying blocks you might get out of Anthony Davis or DeAndre Jordan, but Gortat is quietly one of the NBA’s most efficient rim protectors.

Gortat was fifth among centers that played at least 50 games in defensive rating (points allowed per 100 possessions while a player is on the floor), and was first among centers that averaged at least 25 minutes a game. Also, per NBA.com, opposing players only shot 48.6 percent at the rim when Gortat was defending their shot. This is a number that stacks up favorably against notable NBA rim protectors such as DeAndre Jordan (48.5%), Andre Drummond (48%), and even the NBA’s top shot blocker Anthony Davis (48.6%).


And after ranking very poorly in WAR and RPM early in the year, he rebounded to end up

9th RPM
6th WAR

For centers.

Last year he was

3rd RPM
3rd WAR

Gortat is a solid piece to have at center. And would be even better if they acknowledged him as a key piece such they he was core to every game plan.

Thanks for posting that, hands11. Gortat continues to be very underrated on this board and league-wide. He's a top 10 center in this league and would have posted even better numbers if we played with a stretch four all season.

Love him, just wish he would finish with authority. He misses 2-3 bunnies per game, if he just went in and dunked it.

He finish .753 and .740 from 3 ft and in the last two years.

That's actually very good at nearly 5 attempts from there.

And not sure why you would say he doesn't finish with authority. Dude isn't called The Hammer for nothing. But to Hammer, he needs more open space to gather momentum. Otherwise he tend to attack the rim quickly and beat his man there by leaning and reaching toward the rim and doing reverse off the back board lay ins stuff. He isn't a leaper, but he is quick and tall.

For comparison. 5 ft and in... min 2 attempts per game for centers his is 2nd at 72.0 on 5.0 attempts.

http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/shooting/?sort=Less%20Than%205%20ft.%20FG%20PCT&dir=1&CF=Less%20Than%205%20ft.%20FGA*GE*2&Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs

And Restricted area min 2 attempts per game for centers his is 2nd at 73.2 on 4.7 attempts.

http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/shooting/?sort=Restricted%20Area%20FG%20PCT&dir=1&CF=Restricted%20Area%20FGA*GE*2&Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&PlayerPosition=C&DistanceRange=By%20Zone

Given his number of attempts, he is not only good, he is pretty much the best center in the league at it.

Even if I open it up to all players... he is still top 4 but again, factor in the amount of attempts and he is right back at the top.

http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/shooting/?sort=Restricted%20Area%20FG%20PCT&dir=1&CF=Restricted%20Area%20FGA*GE*2&Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&DistanceRange=By%20Zone

He is the most underrated center in the league right now. The fact they don't feature him more and prop him up as a core piece on this team is baffling. That was the worst of Randy's coaching last year and drove me nuts leading to many rank posts. Even here on the board he is underrated. I always try to include Gortat when I am talking about the team being Wall, Beal, Otto/PP....GORTAT

Now imagine if he actually had an open floor that totally plays to his strengths. As a total package, you could argue he is the best center in the game right now. Rebounding, rim protection, finishing, willing passer, FTs, can run the floor, PnR, and he is very marketable to boot. And he is durable. He only missed 1 regular season game the last two years.

No reason he shouldn't be an AS short of Randy blowing the line ups all year not playing more Gooden to open the floor and Randy pulling Gortat over Nene all those games. Totally the wrong move. Look how much better they played with an open floor and how many more 3s they got up and made in the playoffs.

Last offseason before getting resigned, Gortat said he wanted to be featured in the offense more. That didn't happen. Actually, pretty much the opposite happened. What a frustrating year and wasted opportunity. It was a mess how they handled him.

When you consider this team has Wall, Beal and Gortat that a really solid core. And now Otto as a excellent perimeter defender and rebounder that can also mid range and hit the 3. And he is just getting started.

This team is getting close. Its almost soup. If they land KD, they will be right there contending.

[MarcoPolo]

Dunks highlights from last season.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11UL8nj8hOs[/youtube]

[jimij]

I have to say with all the cash splashed on big men this week the deal we signed Gortat to last summer is looking more and more reasonable every day. I especially can't wait to see what he can do with Wall in the P&R going forward if we play more small ball or actually find a competent stretch four.

[closg00]

Stud
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