FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread

RealNy · Post #4341 » by **RealNy** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 12:36 am

Both Phil and Kevin love are at the yankees game tonight. Expecting a bunch of Kevin Love too NY Knicks reports tomorrow lol.

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Concrete Jungle · Post #4342 » by **Concrete Jungle** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 1:56 am

Love in the triangle would be awesome I cant lie...........however on defense...meh

3StarburyAriza21 · Post #4343 » by **3StarburyAriza21** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 1:59 am

With the Nuggets reportedly interested in #4, would you guys trade Calderon and #4 for Lawson and #7? It would only add about $4 million to the payroll, and you'd still have room for a couple of eight-figure FAs. I'm thinking if you do that, you draft WCS at 7, sign two FAs like Monroe and Matthews, and go with WCS/Monroe/Melo/Matthews/Lawson. Thoughts?

Concrete Jungle · Post #4344 » by **Concrete Jungle** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:16 am

3StarburyAriza21 wrote:With the Nuggets reportedly interested in #4, would you guys trade Calderon and #4 for Lawson and #7? It would only add about $4 million to the payroll, and you'd still have room for a couple of eight-figure FAs. I'm thinking if you do that, you draft WCS at 7, sign two FAs like Monroe and Matthews, and go with WCS/Monroe/Melo/Matthews/Lawson. Thoughts?

no......give us Nurkic/Chandler for Calderon and we swap 1sts and you got a deal

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #4345 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:18 am

Concrete Jungle wrote:
3StarburyAriza21 wrote:With the Nuggets reportedly interested in #4, would you guys trade Calderon and #4 for Lawson and #7? It would only add about $4 million to the payroll, and you'd still have room for a couple of eight-figure FAs. I'm thinking if you do that, you draft WCS at 7, sign two FAs like Monroe and Matthews, and go with WCS/Monroe/Melo/Matthews/Lawson. Thoughts?

no......give us Nurkic/Chandler for Calderon and we swap 1sts and you got a deal

I'd ask for Nurkic and Gallo. GALLO > CHANDLER. OLD DEBATES REHASHED LET'S DO IT!

levendis · Post #4346 » by **levendis** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:35 am

the Knicks could use a wing defender, that's why I would take Chandler.

Ray Williams · Post #4347 » by **Ray Williams** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:37 am

If somehow we could convince Kevin Love to sign, I'd draft Cauley-Stein, I'm convinced this is who Phil wants.
A front court of Melo,Love and Cauley-Stein I'm liking alot.
Start there sign either Carroll or D.Green and give Galloway a shot. Resign Shved and Amundson, go from there.

Cauley-Stein
Love
Melo
Carroll or D.Green
Galloway/Shved

Obi-One · Post #4348 » by **Obi-One** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:39 am

Steve McGarrett wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/611906444460486656[/tweet]

Give Calderón to them!

This would actually be a perfect trade for the Cavs

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #4349 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:41 am

levendis wrote:the Knicks could use a wing defender, that's why I would take Chandler.

I always felt he was overrated as a defender AND, IIRC, the stats backed that up -- that he was never more than an average defender.

levendis · Post #4350 » by **levendis** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 3:03 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:
levendis wrote:the Knicks could use a wing defender, that's why I would take Chandler.

I always felt he was overrated as a defender AND, IIRC, the stats backed that up -- that he was never more than an average defender.

no hes not a great defender, I agree with you, but an average defender would be an upgrade over what they have.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #4351 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 3:13 am

levendis wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
levendis wrote:the Knicks could use a wing defender, that's why I would take Chandler.

I always felt he was overrated as a defender AND, IIRC, the stats backed that up -- that he was never more than an average defender.

no hes not a great defender, I agree with you, but an average defender would be an upgrade over what they have.

Jesus our standards are so low. We can only go up from the bottom -- this is what it's come to :lol:

Meh, they're both expiring. I wouldn't be super picky. I'm very high on Nurkic and liked him in last year's draft - dude is a hot head, but such a soft touch for someone his size.

levendis · Post #4352 » by **levendis** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:38 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:
levendis wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
I always felt he was overrated as a defender AND, IIRC, the stats backed that up -- that he was never more than an average defender.

no hes not a great defender, I agree with you, but an average defender would be an upgrade over what they have.

Jesus our standards are so low. We can only go up from the bottom -- this is what it's come to

Meh, they're both expiring. I wouldn't be super picky. I'm very high on Nurkic and liked him in last year's draft - dude is a hot head, but such a soft touch for someone his size.

lol I just don't see Gallo getting enough good shots without a PG to break down the defense.

I like him alot, and I assume so do the Nuggets. They want to rebuild, and trading him away would be a step back for that franchise. It will probably never happen but yeah if that deal were to ever present itself the Knicks should consider it.

MelosSoreWrist · Post #4353 » by **MelosSoreWrist** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 6:28 am

Meat wrote:
MelosSoreWrist wrote:Why would the Cavs want Calderon or THjr? They want playmakers. Thats who they were missing. Neither are playmakers. In fact both are probably just poorer forms (worse defenders) of Dellavedova and Shumpert.

hmmm ,i wonder why indeed

THjr is not shown to be a better shooter than Shumpert or JRSmith. Both Smith and Shumpert are better defenders than THjr. Calderon has shown to be a better shooter but a far worse defender. Consider salaries. I dont think Cavs waste assets for that kind of return.

FemaleDogPlease · Post #4354 » by **FemaleDogPlease** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:17 pm

Knicks should go after Jordan Hill for a 4 yr deal at a reasonable rate.

br7knicks · Post #4355 » by **br7knicks** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:59 pm

calderon, larkin, thjr

wallace, 16th pick, dallas' 2016 second round pick

they looking for ungauranteed money.

i honestly just want to rid of calderon. wish thjr's stock was higher as well

HarthorneWingo · Post #4356 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 6:57 pm

Concrete Jungle wrote:Love in the triangle would be awesome I cant lie...........however on defense...meh

What other PF on the FA market plays great defense?

HarthorneWingo · Post #4357 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:16 pm

Knicks to work out Euro-guard Daniel Hackett. From P&T:

"The Knicks are using this time to work out not just draft-eligible guys, but basketball veterans on the fringes of the league. They brought (or are bringing in yet) Vitor Faverani at some point, and here's another one.

Hackett's 27, went to USC, and has been playing in Italy since he went undrafted in 2009. He joined the national team at EuroBasket in 2011, as pictured above. Maybe Hackett will come to Summer League or training camp or something. No harm in giving him a shot."

[tweet]https://twitter.com/IAmDPick/status/612014140446478336[/tweet]

USC Highlights
http://youtu.be/ssYfsUH0TiE
http://youtu.be/Ykw06AzS-34
http://youtu.be/MmnRq8eujvw

Europe Highlights
http://youtu.be/KY6D57AYPIw
http://youtu.be/zUd__ykJsRY
http://youtu.be/8XQhyHx8zOE
http://youtu.be/hOLwYQGw2K4

rajajackal · Post #4358 » by **rajajackal** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:55 pm

i don't know **** about the CBA, so if the numbers are off, forgive me. i'm dropping this off here specifically to see if you guys can clarify for me whether or not these moves are possible. if they are, or even if they're pretty close, i think some variation of these two rosters can be a really solid team next year with enough flexibility for a slight re-tool/upgrade in the 2016 offseason

#4 (mudiay or porzingis), calderon ($7.4M) for #7 (WCS), wilson chandler ($7.2M)

chandler to CHI for taj gibson ($8.5M)

reason CHI bites:

noah/etc
gasol/mirotic
chandler/mcdermott
butler/snell
rose/etc
+ $1.3M more to spend

sign andre miller and elton brand

WCS ($2.5M)/cole ($1.4M)
monroe ($15.7M)/gibson ($8.5M)/brand ($1.4M)
melo ($22.9M)/early ($845k)/thanasis ($845k)
green ($10.4)/THJ ($1.3M)
galloway ($845k)/miller ($1.4M)

of course, if russell falls to #4, you draft him, hope to sign LMA or gasol, and if you can't, you stretch calderon, sign deandre, sign carroll, and you work with that until next year

jordan ($19M)/cole ($1.4M)
melo ($22.9M)/amundson ($1.4M)/brand ($1.4M)
carroll($8.2)/early ($845k)/thanasis ($845k)
russell ($3.4M)/THJ ($1.3M)
galloway ($845k)/shved (MLE)/miller ($1.4)

lots of possibilities tbh. at the end of the day, i am happy with russell, mudiay, or WCS being our rookie. great year to have tanked

riter · Post #4359 » by **riter** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:08 pm

Nurkic/Jason Smith/WCS
Wilson/WCS
Melo/Carroll(10)
Carroll/Schved
Lawson(12.4)/Gallo

#7/Lawson/Nurk/Wilson
for
#4/Calderon/THJ/ +?

this has a pick coming back, a legit starter and 2nd scorer, and rotation players, and youth.
No allstar but Nurkic is a triangle big on a rookie scale that is a steal.

Lawson, Carroll, Melo, and Wilson to carrry the load until 2016.
It may be too much for Denver but #7 and Lawson is just not enough.

Jose7 · Post #4360 » by **Jose7** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:17 pm

Melo playing his minutes at the 4 is an absolute must this offseason.