Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space

Post #1881 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 6:46 am

I think unless it prevented from signing another free agent that could help, signing Amare would be fun. He's obviously not going to contribute to our future, but it would be fun to see him in a Suns uniform, coming in at times with his dunks and stuff before he retired...and it would be nice to see him retire as a Sun.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1882 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:44 am

bwgood77 wrote:If we lost Brandan Wright because he decided he'd rather play elsewhere, what big (realistically) would you want to go after? Koufos? Jordan Hill?

anyone. I'm OK resigning wright but if not for christ sake stop signing old ass men like amare. The suns are who they are right now. Just give minutes to young players

Djedefre · Post #1883 » by **Djedefre** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 11:50 am

Would you consider Bjelica as an option at 4?

Saberestar · Post #1884 » by **Saberestar** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 12:02 pm

Djedefre wrote:Would you consider Bjelica as an option at 4?

He is a very good player, but I think he would struggle a lot his first year in the league defensively. Mirotic is an slightly better athlete, but he is a good comparison. Bjelica is a better creator, he is an amazing passer for his size (even better than Diaw in my opinion) and he is very confortable with the ball in his hands. He lacks strength and jumping ability to fight around the rim with PFs, and he is no quick enough to defend SFs.

At the end of the day I would make him an offer to be our backup at PF. Something like $12M / 3 years, with the last one like a team option.

Edit.
I found this about Bjelica...

The Timberwolves could look to trade former 35th overall pick Nemanja Bjelica if they are unable to sign him this summer.
Bjelica reportedly wants a three-year, $15 million deal from the Wolves, but it's unclear if Minnesota is willing to fork over that kind of money for him. Bjelica is a 6'10" forward with good ball-handling skills and playmaking ability, and he has been very impressive with Fenerbache Ulker (Turkey). If the Wolves are willing to trade Bjelica, the Spurs, Mavericks, Heat, Nets and Bulls are all said to be interested.

BobbieL · Post #1885 » by **BobbieL** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 1:42 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:If we lost Brandan Wright because he decided he'd rather play elsewhere, what big (realistically) would you want to go after? Koufos? Jordan Hill?
anyone. I'm OK resigning wright but if not for christ sake stop signing old ass men like amare. The suns are who they are right now. Just give minutes to young players

Brandon Wright is just developing into the player he will be in the BA - a solid rotational guy off the bench. I think the Suns need to bring him back.

I am not against Amare but as a later option

What about Patric Young - I like that guy as a dirtworker type - young, energizer, defense, rebounding, hustle guy.

Suns offseason still all starts with Morris Tucker and Morris - can the Suns dump $18m of salary to really be a player in free agency or the trade market. TJ Warren is the future at SF. Maybe Tucker is a good back up at 6m per year - or maybe a veteran team will give a better piece to the Suns

Suns need a better roster balance than last year that's for sure

Djedefre · Post #1886 » by **Djedefre** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:46 pm

Saberestar wrote:
Djedefre wrote:Would you consider Bjelica as an option at 4?

He is a very good player, but I think he would struggle a lot his first year in the league defensively. Mirotic is an slightly better athlete, but he is a good comparison. Bjelica is a better creator, he is an amazing passer for his size (even better than Diaw in my opinion) and he is very confortable with the ball in his hands. He lacks strength and jumping ability to fight around the rim with PFs, and he is no quick enough to defend SFs.

At the end of the day I would make him an offer to be our backup at PF. Something like $12M / 3 years, with the last one like a team option.

Great ball-handling and playmaking ability at 4 aside, he is tremendous rebounder in EL standards (above mentioned Mirotic, in his exiting EL season averaged 4.6 total rebs per game while Bjelica averaged 8.5 this season - quite a difference), and he is capable of boxing out the likes of Valanciunas for example. He can steal, he can shoot, he can dish, and isn't TO prone. Maybe not that quick and agile, really is struggling with light, speedy SF's, but from my point of view Bjelica is a prototype of modern do-it-all forward and i would be delighted to see him in purple.

RunDogGun · Post #1887 » by **RunDogGun** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 6:05 pm

Bjelica might be an interesting choice. Could we give up the first Miami pick and get him, or would he cost much more? Maybe our protected first next year?

Overall, if we could grab him and still keep our 13th pick this year, we could reload rather quickly.

Damkac · Post #1888 » by **Damkac** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:30 pm

ginobiliflops wrote:1) Lillard is the star in Portland.
2) Love was traded to Cleveland and didn't like being the 3rd option.

1) LA>Lillard imo
2) If he wants to be a star on his team then why he wanted to leave Minny?

Post #1889 » by **Qwigglez** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:52 pm

Damkac wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:1) Lillard is the star in Portland.
2) Love was traded to Cleveland and didn't like being the 3rd option.

2) If he wants to be a star on his team then why he wanted to leave Minny?

Because Minny sucks, and nobody has ever wanted to sign there.

Damkac · Post #1890 » by **Damkac** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:31 pm

Anyway if Aldridge and Love don't want to have other star on their team then their teams won't be winning anything.

RaisingArizona · Post #1891 » by **RaisingArizona** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:56 pm

Damkac wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:1) Lillard is the star in Portland.
2) Love was traded to Cleveland and didn't like being the 3rd option.

1) LA>Lillard imo
2) If he wants to be a star on his team then why he wanted to leave Minny?

Lillard got his own video game and shoe deal. He's bigger than LMA in the NBA sphere.

Saberestar · Post #1892 » by **Saberestar** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 10:52 pm

Bogdanovic's new pic

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfp1/t51.2885-15/e15/10175169_1455486368079270_2084935695_n.jpg

jcsunsfan · Post #1893 » by **jcsunsfan** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 11:50 pm

Saberestar wrote:Bogdanovic's new pic

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfp1/t51.2885-15/e15/10175169_1455486368079270_2084935695_n.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UtCXwHJPtI

letsgosuns · Post #1894 » by **letsgosuns** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 12:11 am

When I see that Bogdanovich is in Phoenix and I watch highlights of him, it furthers my believe that there is absolutely no point of having Eric Bledsoe AND Brandon Knight. Having both Bledsoe and Knight, two players that are starting point guards, not all that tall, and most likely going to be signed for similar contracts, is the definition of redundancy. Neither is a shooting guard. Having both of them holds back the development of Goodwin and Bogdanovich (assuming he comes to Phoenix this offseason and signs here). I would much rather have Bledsoe OR Knight, start Goodwin or Bogdanovich immediately and develop them, and see what happens. There is nothing wrong with starting rookies. I am all for it. It is the fastest way for them to reach their potential.

Post #1895 » by **bwgood77** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 12:53 am

I think most of us would prefer a traditional backcourt, but apparently either McD wants two starting caliber point guards, or he is willing to trade Bledsoe. I don't mind having one of them on the court at all times. It's still lets a traditional 2 play about 30 minutes with one or the other.

Knight isn't a bad off guard though. At least he can shoot. More size would be preferable, but it is what it is.

RunDogGun · Post #1896 » by **RunDogGun** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:50 am

bwgood77 wrote:I think most of us would prefer a traditional backcourt, but apparently either McD wants two starting caliber point guards, or he is willing to trade Bledsoe. I don't mind having one of them on the court at all times. It's still lets a traditional 2 play about 30 minutes with one or the other.

Knight isn't a bad off guard though. At least he can shoot. More size would be preferable, but it is what it is.

I still think it's more of a Hornacek thing. I think he wants to find that KJ/Hornacek back court. If Bledsoe can get better at passing, I think a Bledsoe/Knight backcourt is as close as Jeff will get to that.

Saberestar · Post #1897 » by **Saberestar** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:14 am

Sources told ESPN.com that the Heat are planning to offer Dragic a five-year deal in excess of $80 million to keep him in Miami after acquiring the 2014 All-NBA third-team selection from Phoenix on trade deadline day in February.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13122962/miami-heat-plan-offer-goran-dragic-5-year-80-million-deal

Flying Colors · Post #1898 » by **Flying Colors** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:27 am

i wouldn't be surprised if Dragic ends up asking for more. My Biggest hope is that he decides to sign elsewhere, making those Heat picks much more valuable

BobbieL · Post #1899 » by **BobbieL** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:28 pm

letsgosuns wrote:When I see that Bogdanovich is in Phoenix and I watch highlights of him, it furthers my believe that there is absolutely no point of having Eric Bledsoe AND Brandon Knight. Having both Bledsoe and Knight, two players that are starting point guards, not all that tall, and most likely going to be signed for similar contracts, is the definition of redundancy. Neither is a shooting guard. Having both of them holds back the development of Goodwin and Bogdanovich (assuming he comes to Phoenix this offseason and signs here). I would much rather have Bledsoe OR Knight, start Goodwin or Bogdanovich immediately and develop them, and see what happens. There is nothing wrong with starting rookies. I am all for it. It is the fastest way for them to reach their potential.

I totally agree. The Suns need a real two guard. And as was pointed out, Bledsoe and Knight are redundant players.

If I can move Bledsoe, as I think Knight might be better pure lead guard - I see if I can move him to get a real two guard and sign a veteran back up PG for depth (they are out there, you can always find a good veteran back up for cheap - Ish Smith? Sessions?).

So, if the Knicks are calling on Bledsoe for the 4 - pull it. I am not sure they deserve the 13 and the Suns shouldn't have to take Calderon unless the Knicks take back a similar contract (the Morris twins?). But I want a true one-two guard offense.

AtheJ415 · Post #1900 » by **AtheJ415** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:09 pm

BobbieL wrote:
letsgosuns wrote:When I see that Bogdanovich is in Phoenix and I watch highlights of him, it furthers my believe that there is absolutely no point of having Eric Bledsoe AND Brandon Knight. Having both Bledsoe and Knight, two players that are starting point guards, not all that tall, and most likely going to be signed for similar contracts, is the definition of redundancy. Neither is a shooting guard. Having both of them holds back the development of Goodwin and Bogdanovich (assuming he comes to Phoenix this offseason and signs here). I would much rather have Bledsoe OR Knight, start Goodwin or Bogdanovich immediately and develop them, and see what happens. There is nothing wrong with starting rookies. I am all for it. It is the fastest way for them to reach their potential.

I totally agree. The Suns need a real two guard. And as was pointed out, Bledsoe and Knight are redundant players.

If I can move Bledsoe, as I think Knight might be better pure lead guard - I see if I can move him to get a real two guard and sign a veteran back up PG for depth (they are out there, you can always find a good veteran back up for cheap - Ish Smith? Sessions?).

So, if the Knicks are calling on Bledsoe for the 4 - pull it. I am not sure they deserve the 13 and the Suns shouldn't have to take Calderon unless the Knicks take back a similar contract (the Morris twins?). But I want a true one-two guard offense.

Knight is more of a 2 guard than a point guard. Always has been.