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I don't care what anyone says.This was a fantastic draft for us.
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Use the TPE and get back our 2nd from Houston and Terrence Jones
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GSW getting looney. Fits in well with that team
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jakoub wrote:GSW getting looney. Fits in well with that team
Dude. Let them announce it.
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Warriors almost have to take Looney and mold him into a Green clone right?
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HarthorneWingo wrote:I wish Hubie was doing the draft commentary tonight
There ya go. You have to give wingo a lot of credit for making this post.
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GONYK wrote:I don't care what anyone says.This was a fantastic draft for us.
fantastic is being conservative.
we got arguably the highest potential player in the draft and traded one of the worst players in the NBA for a 1st round pick
glorious trade
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Some ore on Jerian Grant, seems we got a good one here family:
This from a Suns writer:
\http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2015/6/15/8778419/bright-side-draft-profile-jerian-grant-is-the-right-fit-for-suns
Even if Hornacek didn't appear to have a PG fetish, the Suns would need one. The only question is whether to find one via free agency or the draft. Jerian Grant is the perfect fit should the Suns choose to fill this hole through the draft.
Measurables (all courtesy Draft Express)
•Height (with shoes): 6'5"
•Weight: 198 lbs
•Wingspan: 6'7"
•Age: 22, played four years college basketball
•Last season's basic stats: 16.5 PPG, 6.6 APG, 3.0 RPG on 48% overall shooting and 32% from 3
•Consensus First Team All-American as senior•Led Notre Dame to NCAA Tournament Elite Eight, losing in that round to Kentucky.
After redshirting his freshman year and working through academic problems later in his Notre Dame tenure, Grant was an extremely productive college player. He accomplished this against high level competition in the Big East and then the ACC after ND changed conferences. This past season, Grant was the best player on an elite, title-contending squad, posting sterling advanced stats such as 25.5 PER, 7.7 win shares, 51.1 free throw rate, 59.2 true shooting % and 33.6 assist %.
Evident from his physical profile is that he's a tall, lanky PG, which allows him to see the floor well to assist teammates. His 3-point shooting was sub-par at 31.6% as a senior, and 34.5% for his college career. Spot up shooting remains an area of concern, though he's shown promise there. Grant himself cited this as a point of focus for improvement.
At age 22, and five years out of high school, it's fair to question how much upside there is for Grant when compared to younger, rawer, less accomplished players. The flip side is that the team drafting him will get a more fully realized player who will be closer to "plug and play." This is a benefit when compared to players who had yet to consistently demonstrate the skills a team's looking for when drafted, projects such as Suns youngsters Goodwin and Alex Len. Grant's athleticism isn't off the charts, but also isn't problematic; it won't limit further growth.
Grant's strengths and weaknesses videos from DX:
He possesses better pure PG skills than either Bledsoe or Knight, which would make him a nice fit next to either of them when the other is resting. Additionally, it's easy to envision his strong pick and roll game, post passing and ability to find cutters creating easy shots for the likes of Len, Markieff Morris and T.J. Warren.
The Suns' offense was a train wreck down the stretch, with iso ball and lots of poor, contested shots the main culprits. Grant can help alleviate those problems by creating easier shots and getting to the FT line.
Also making him a strong fit in Phoenix are that he shared playmaking duties with Demetrius Jackson at ND, so is used to the arrangement, and is strong in transition offense. Include that he's the brother of current NBA player Jerami Grant, son of former player Harvey Grant and nephew of former player Horace Grant, and Jerian checks nearly every box of a Suns player profile. He seems to agree:
Draft Express has Grant at #19 in their mock draft, so it might be a bit of a reach for the Suns to take him at #13. However, there's always the option of trading down and acquiring another asset in the process, or scoring a second first round pick by trading a current player such as P.J. Tucker.
The prospect of drafting yet another PG after the debacle of Kendall Marshall and draft/flip of Ennis, while the team has other needs, is sure to give many Suns fans indigestion. But Jerian Grant is an excellent prospect who fits a current need: a smart, skilled, accomplished playmaker. He's also more athletically gifted than both Marshall and Ennis.
Will he be the best player available at #13? Maybe not. He will go on to be a successful pro player, though, and his fit on the Suns looks like a glove. One way or another, I'd like to see him in purple and orange next season.
This from a Suns writer:
\http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2015/6/15/8778419/bright-side-draft-profile-jerian-grant-is-the-right-fit-for-suns
Even if Hornacek didn't appear to have a PG fetish, the Suns would need one. The only question is whether to find one via free agency or the draft. Jerian Grant is the perfect fit should the Suns choose to fill this hole through the draft.
Measurables (all courtesy Draft Express)
•Height (with shoes): 6'5"
•Weight: 198 lbs
•Wingspan: 6'7"
•Age: 22, played four years college basketball
•Last season's basic stats: 16.5 PPG, 6.6 APG, 3.0 RPG on 48% overall shooting and 32% from 3
•Consensus First Team All-American as senior•Led Notre Dame to NCAA Tournament Elite Eight, losing in that round to Kentucky.
After redshirting his freshman year and working through academic problems later in his Notre Dame tenure, Grant was an extremely productive college player. He accomplished this against high level competition in the Big East and then the ACC after ND changed conferences. This past season, Grant was the best player on an elite, title-contending squad, posting sterling advanced stats such as 25.5 PER, 7.7 win shares, 51.1 free throw rate, 59.2 true shooting % and 33.6 assist %.
Evident from his physical profile is that he's a tall, lanky PG, which allows him to see the floor well to assist teammates. His 3-point shooting was sub-par at 31.6% as a senior, and 34.5% for his college career. Spot up shooting remains an area of concern, though he's shown promise there. Grant himself cited this as a point of focus for improvement.
At age 22, and five years out of high school, it's fair to question how much upside there is for Grant when compared to younger, rawer, less accomplished players. The flip side is that the team drafting him will get a more fully realized player who will be closer to "plug and play." This is a benefit when compared to players who had yet to consistently demonstrate the skills a team's looking for when drafted, projects such as Suns youngsters Goodwin and Alex Len. Grant's athleticism isn't off the charts, but also isn't problematic; it won't limit further growth.
Grant's strengths and weaknesses videos from DX:
He possesses better pure PG skills than either Bledsoe or Knight, which would make him a nice fit next to either of them when the other is resting. Additionally, it's easy to envision his strong pick and roll game, post passing and ability to find cutters creating easy shots for the likes of Len, Markieff Morris and T.J. Warren.
The Suns' offense was a train wreck down the stretch, with iso ball and lots of poor, contested shots the main culprits. Grant can help alleviate those problems by creating easier shots and getting to the FT line.
Also making him a strong fit in Phoenix are that he shared playmaking duties with Demetrius Jackson at ND, so is used to the arrangement, and is strong in transition offense. Include that he's the brother of current NBA player Jerami Grant, son of former player Harvey Grant and nephew of former player Horace Grant, and Jerian checks nearly every box of a Suns player profile. He seems to agree:
Draft Express has Grant at #19 in their mock draft, so it might be a bit of a reach for the Suns to take him at #13. However, there's always the option of trading down and acquiring another asset in the process, or scoring a second first round pick by trading a current player such as P.J. Tucker.
The prospect of drafting yet another PG after the debacle of Kendall Marshall and draft/flip of Ennis, while the team has other needs, is sure to give many Suns fans indigestion. But Jerian Grant is an excellent prospect who fits a current need: a smart, skilled, accomplished playmaker. He's also more athletically gifted than both Marshall and Ennis.
Will he be the best player available at #13? Maybe not. He will go on to be a successful pro player, though, and his fit on the Suns looks like a glove. One way or another, I'd like to see him in purple and orange next season.
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BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:jakoub wrote:GSW getting looney. Fits in well with that team
Dude. Let them announce it.
They haven't picked yet... Pretty sure he's just guessing because its the obvious choice.
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It's time for some Christmas in june
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He looks like he's favoring that hip right now
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GONYK wrote:I don't care what anyone says.This was a fantastic draft for us.
The trade changed the perception of the draft for me.. but I'm not going to lie it started off really shaky not being able to inject some ready to play talent right off the bat.
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E-Balla wrote:BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:jakoub wrote:GSW getting looney. Fits in well with that team
Dude. Let them announce it.
They haven't picked yet... Pretty sure he's just guessing because its the obvious choice.
nah he spoiled it but whatever
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E-Balla wrote:BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:jakoub wrote:GSW getting looney. Fits in well with that team
Dude. Let them announce it.
They haven't picked yet... Pretty sure he's just guessing because its the obvious choice.
nah he spoiled it but whatever
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Bobby Portis looks like the black Eminem
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GONYK wrote:I don't care what anyone says.This was a fantastic draft for us.
Fantastic indeed! With the possibility of us buying another pick still there.
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oh well Phil still gets an A
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Yankeeknickfan wrote:Since looney is hurt, let's get Christmas
https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/614264525152481280
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You either have it or you don't. Start Porzinges right away. Giannas and Dirk were hoopin' since day 1. Dude will be able to board at 7'2 and that wingspan.
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Thorn deserves this. Just don't go on too long with the speeches