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Re: Free Agency Thread - Tyson Chandler, pg 11 

Post#241 » by tyland » Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:36 am

The Wet Whistle wrote:Centers I'd like in order, considering age, assumed contract, injury, what he brings to the team:

RoLo, Chandler, Monroe, Jordan, Brook


My order is the same. I would take Jordan at a contract below the max in second place. But that is not going to happen!
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Re: Free Agency Thread - Tyson Chandler, pg 11 

Post#242 » by Wise1 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:22 am

Tyson would be a solid pick up. I think the Bucks would win more games and playoff series with Brook Lopez however. In regards to the money differential, I care as much about a few billionaire's money as Dave Chappelle as Rick James did about Eddie Murphy's couch.
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Re: Free Agency Thread - Tyson Chandler, pg 11 

Post#243 » by AussieBuck » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:42 am

Oquinn>>Koufos,RoLo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: Free Agency Thread - Tyson Chandler, pg 11 

Post#244 » by AussieBuck » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:49 am

Actually that's harsh on BroLo, if we got rid of MCW and got a PG with a three ball and a willingness to be a 12 usage guy I could see him being some kind of option.
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Re: Free Agency Thread - Tyson Chandler, pg 11 

Post#245 » by EastSideBucksFan » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:52 am

No insider, but I always believed Tyson was our guy.
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Free Agency Thread - Tyson Chandler, pg 11 

Post#246 » by machu46 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 10:42 am

Damn. Maybe it was just wishful thinking but I really thought Chandler was a smokescreen.


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Re: Free Agency Thread - Tyson Chandler, pg 11 

Post#247 » by WRau1 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:16 pm

I'm surprised people are furious with the Vasquez trade but are willing to sign Chandler. It doesn't make sense for Chandler to sign here cheap AND on a short contract, we're either going to have to overpay or give him a 3rd/4th year. I'd rather max Kanter than bring in Chandler.
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Re: Free Agency Thread - Tyson Chandler, pg 11 

Post#248 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:20 pm

we need to use every last dime of our cap space to absorb crap from other teams along with picks and other young assets. give it all to philly to use as they want in an effort to acquire noel.

between all that and whatever else theyd want from us I believe he could be attainable. all these other options in free agency, for the cost associated.... are beyond uninspiring for me. and if noel is unattainable even with all that then it still changes nothing for me. keep whatever assets we can find and as the years go by use it find more Vasquez type pieces....... guys that are perfect fits instead of just decent.
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Re: Free Agency Thread - Tyson Chandler, pg 11 

Post#249 » by 4hitter » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:25 pm

EastSideBucksFan wrote:No insider, but I always believed Tyson was our guy.


I don't claim to be an insider either, though I do have a contact very high up... I can confirm that Brook Lopez is NOT being considered. So everyone can put that to rest and focus on other guys. I agree with Paul that Tyson is our guy and from what I was told it matches up to what they're looking to do.
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Re: Free Agency Thread - kicking the tires on Jordan? 

Post#250 » by bucksbrewers3 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:32 pm

drew881 wrote:probably way too early to talk about it, but what win/loss do we expect with this lineup:

MCW/Vasquez/Ennis
Middleton/Mayo/Vaughn
Giannis/Dudley
Parker/Inglis
Chandler/Henson/Plumlee

I'll go 44 wins but I think a lot of people on here will venture higher.



Our two biggest problems was scoring slumps and getting a rebound on defensive stops we still won 41 games. Chandler would help out with one of our problems

I'd put them 46 games.
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Re: Free Agency Thread - kicking the tires on Jordan? 

Post#251 » by Ill-yasova » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:36 pm

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LUKE23 wrote:Yeah, he also doesn't help the spacing issue. Still only have one major three point threat in the starting five. D would be really damn good, and rebounding would be a lot better (Chandler had highest rebounding rate of career last year).


That is why you move Vazquez to starter, which would help address many of the spacing issues

Maybe that will be the case at some point during the season if the starting offense really stagnates, but they didn't bring in MCW to sit on the bench. They've got to figure out what they have in him and if possible help him grow with the core guys.
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Re: Free Agency Thread - Tyson Chandler, pg 11 

Post#252 » by LUKE23 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:44 pm

Thirty three years old is really damn old to start a contract, and historically, Chandler misses a lot of games. It's a pretty damn risky move if that's who they go with. If we are going defense at C rather take RoLo.
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Re: Free Agency Thread - Tyson Chandler, pg 11 

Post#253 » by Ill-yasova » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:44 pm

The thing about Bro-Pez that just boggles my mind is his lack of rebounding ability. At 7' tall and 275 lbs how is it even possible to average 7.3 boards a game for your career? Does he actively avoid the basketball after it hits the rim? I could look past the awful defense if he was grabbing 12 boards a game, but being his size without good rebounding numbers qualifies as a character issue to me.
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Re: Free Agency Thread - Tyson Chandler, pg 11 

Post#254 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:55 pm

LUKE23 wrote:Thirty three years old is really damn old to start a contract, and historically, Chamdler misses a lot of games. It's a pretty damn risky move if that's who they go with. If we are going defense at C rather take RoLo.


a small market overpay to either of those guys is bat sht crazy. if were gonna sign either of those guys it needs to be on a value deal if they somehow fall thru the cracks.

16 million in space. either absorb players for picks and youth or try and be the last man standing with space to try and get a guy who got bypassed to sign for less than market on a shorter term deal. and make a move for that guy regardless of position.

we do NOT have to target need with our current roster composition. use this money for best available player at best dollar only imo. the goal with our money should be to create more assets at the lowest risk possible of any longterm liability or loss of flexibility..... even with the larger cap coming up.
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Free Agency Thread - Tyson Chandler, pg 11 

Post#255 » by LittleRooster » Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:00 pm

4hitter wrote:
EastSideBucksFan wrote:No insider, but I always believed Tyson was our guy.


I don't claim to be an insider either, though I do have a contact very high up... I can confirm that Brook Lopez is NOT being considered. So everyone can put that to rest and focus on other guys. I agree with Paul that Tyson is our guy and from what I was told it matches up to what they're looking to do.


Well there ya go. Thanks for the info.
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Re: Free Agency Thread - Tyson Chandler, pg 11 

Post#256 » by JustinCredible » Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:06 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
LUKE23 wrote:Thirty three years old is really damn old to start a contract, and historically, Chamdler misses a lot of games. It's a pretty damn risky move if that's who they go with. If we are going defense at C rather take RoLo.


a small market overpay to either of those guys is bat sht crazy. if were gonna sign either of those guys it needs to be on a value deal if they somehow fall thru the cracks.

16 million in space. either absorb players for picks and youth or try and be the last man standing with space to try and get a guy who got bypassed to sign for less than market on a shorter term deal. and make a move for that guy regardless of position.

we do NOT have to target need with our current roster composition. use this money for best available player at best dollar only imo. the goal with our money should be to create more assets at the lowest risk possible of any longterm liability or loss of flexibility..... even with the larger cap coming up.


Nobody is falling through the cracks this year with the looming cap situation. We will all soon be freaking out at the numbers we will be paying in free agency.

The free agents are like homes in a sellers market. You'll get multiple offers on your home the day it goes up for sale and it will take a bid over asking price for someone to get it.
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Re: Free Agency Thread - Tyson Chandler, pg 11 

Post#257 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:15 pm

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LUKE23 wrote:Thirty three years old is really damn old to start a contract, and historically, Chamdler misses a lot of games. It's a pretty damn risky move if that's who they go with. If we are going defense at C rather take RoLo.


a small market overpay to either of those guys is bat sht crazy. if were gonna sign either of those guys it needs to be on a value deal if they somehow fall thru the cracks.

16 million in space. either absorb players for picks and youth or try and be the last man standing with space to try and get a guy who got bypassed to sign for less than market on a shorter term deal. and make a move for that guy regardless of position.

we do NOT have to target need with our current roster composition. use this money for best available player at best dollar only imo. the goal with our money should be to create more assets at the lowest risk possible of any longterm liability or loss of flexibility..... even with the larger cap coming up.


Nobody is falling through the cracks this year with the looming cap situation. We will all soon be freaking out at the numbers we will be paying in free agency.

The free agents are like homes in a sellers market. You'll get multiple offers on your home the day it goes up for sale and it will take a bid over asking price for someone to get it.


this is the year that it is most likely somebody falls thru the cracks.

with the new salary cap looming, teams will be spending with no conscience. but this year the old salary cap will still in place. that's a perfect recipe for having a 2nd tier guy left over more than any other time in history. maybe its a chandler. maybe its a wes Mathews.... who knows who it will be? but the goal is to find a millsap player/contract because nobody else has even that money left to burn.

so next year I agree with you it will be impossible to find a value. but this year.... as teams spend like crazy initially and space fills up fast..... our goal should be to be the team with the most available space left at some point in july. at that point we look around at whats left and make a lowball offer better than anybody else can. its literally as simple as that.

option b of course is just to offer our space to others once theirs is all gone elsewhere. I guarantee there is still gonna be guys who haven't been paid what their asking in mid july. we either lowball them or offer our space to somebody else to pay thru the nose. I do not want to use this space for the names/contracts being thrown around right now. value deals sure..... small market premiums at this point in our teams evolution can gtfo.
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Re: Free Agency Thread - Tyson Chandler, pg 11 

Post#258 » by Serge28 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:21 pm

I've said it before, I'll say it again: I would absolutely love it if the Bucks threw max at Chandler for 2 years with a team option for 3rd.
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Re: Free Agency Thread - Tyson Chandler, pg 11 

Post#259 » by jakecronus8 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:21 pm

Signing Chandler (assumingly at a decent rate) is a C+ move but I'll take it as maxing out Lopez would be an F. Chandler will be good in his role and the offense won't be disrupted.
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Re: Free Agency Thread - Tyson Chandler, pg 11 

Post#260 » by LUKE23 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:24 pm

Serge28 wrote:I've said it before, I'll say it again: I would absolutely love it if the Bucks threw max at Chandler for 2 years with a team option for 3rd.


The max? Umm, no.

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