Free Agency Thread -David West to Spurs for free

blazza18 · Post #801 » by **blazza18** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:24 am

stellation wrote:
Chuck Diesel wrote:
stellation wrote:You probably could have landed Baynes and Biyombo for a million or two more than the amount to be paid to Vasquez this season. If Baynes could teach Biyombo to be half as physically destructive as he is that'd be a hell of a bruiser combo.

I go back to Slovenia with Baynes but the only physical destruction in the playoffs was his own body at the hands of Blake Griffin.

His failure to lay anybody out during the playoffs was a great disappointment, and frankly a shame to his country. I have faith he can turn it around and injure some guys next season.

He did his native kiwi land proud by just playing in a professional basketball game.

Baddy Chuck · Post #802 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:25 am

On_Wisconsin wrote:Player A: Shot 230/668 (34.4%) on jumpshots last season. 32.4% from 3 on 88/272 shooting

Player B: Shot 174/598 (29.1%) on jumpshots last season. 23.5% from 3 on 36/153 shooting

Spoiler:
Player A: Eric Bledsoe (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/202339/stats/shooting/)

Player B: MCW (http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/203487/stats/shooting/)

Now obviously Bledsoe is a better PG and shooter right now but let's not pretend he will completely open up the offense for us. I expect MCW to get a little better this offseason. That said, I'd trade MCW for him in a heartbeat but he is getting over-rated on this board. I like him but wouldn't part with anything better than MCW/Henson and even that is pushing it.

If you really want to talk about jumpers that space the floor you should probably extend to jumpers that actually extend the defense. From 16-3pt MCW is shot 25% compared to Bledsoe's 38% and the three point differential is pretty significant. That's even before the fact that teams actually respect and stay on Bledsoe anywhere near the outside and teams literally pray MCW shoots a nearly uncontested shot from there.

stellation · Post #803 » by **stellation** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:43 am

Aaron It Out wrote:0% chance for Wade

I like those odds!

MrPerfect1 · Post #804 » by **MrPerfect1** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:21 am

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
JayMKE wrote:There really isn't anything that scares me about signing Wade, whatever he brings on the court is gravy considering the effect he would have off the court so the question to me is what kind of price tag do you put on that. I think it would be an interesting opportunity for Wade to take kind of a hybrid role as he transitions from player to coach where better a place to do than close to home with HOFer Jason Kidd, fellow Chicagoan Jabari Parker, and Giannis of course!

The nets are a cautionary tale in tying up money in aging superstars. It can go bad quick and ruin goodwill with fans if expectations aren't met.

I think you mean the Nets are a cautionary tale of tying up money in Aging Stars. The nets have not had a Superstar since Prime Jason Kidd.

BKN's biggest problem was that they gave huge money to non Superstars.

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Green would be an amazing signing for us. We desperately need shooting and he is pretty good defensively I believe

AussieBuck · Post #805 » by **AussieBuck** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:17 am

Green would be amazing. Wade and MCW together would be gross.

Prince12 · Post #806 » by **Prince12** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:36 am

I'm down with MCW/Mids/Green/Giannis/Henson.

Jabari will take time, clearly it appears we will make some addition at C but on paper that seems ok. With Mids and Green legitimate three point weapons and Giannis hopefully making further strides with his jumpshot, spacing is not as much of an issue.

blazza18 · Post #807 » by **blazza18** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:47 am

Green really would be perfect for us. I'd be shocked if we'd be able to pay him enough though.

AussieBuck · Post #808 » by **AussieBuck** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:59 am

GV/Green/Mids/Jabari/Giannis.

Dat offense.

Post #809 » by **paulpressey25** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:36 am

What does Green cost us?

How different is he cost wise/playing wise from Middleton?

Not arguing against him, but thinking part of the Green equation is what Middleton signs for.

stellation · Post #810 » by **stellation** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:52 am

I don't think Green is a max player, but I think you basically have to max him to have the Warriors not automatically match.

AussieBuck · Post #811 » by **AussieBuck** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:52 am

paulpressey25 wrote:What does Green cost us?

How different is he cost wise/playing wise from Middleton?

Not arguing against him, but thinking part of the Green equation is what Middleton signs for.

Lots of the same qualities as Middleton. Will cost too much for us.

Baddy Chuck · Post #812 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:01 am

Pray Dudley opts out. Sign Green and Amir. Fluff for Hibbert.

MCW / Vasquez
Middleton / Green
Jabari / Green
Giannis / Amir
Hibbert / Henson

That'd be a cool "get Kidd a competitive roster" team.

RRyder823 · Post #813 » by **RRyder823** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:12 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:Pray Dudley opts out. Sign Green and Amir. Fluff for Hibbert.

MCW / Vasquez
Middleton / Green
Jabari / Green
Giannis / Amir
Hibbert / Henson

That'd be a cool "get Kidd a competitive roster" team.

I could defiantly get excited about that team

Post #814 » by **paulpressey25** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:14 am

stellation wrote:I don't think Green is a max player, but I think you basically have to max him to have the Warriors not automatically match.

Danny Green. You know, Patty's teammate.

stellation · Post #815 » by **stellation** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:21 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
stellation wrote:I don't think Green is a max player, but I think you basically have to max him to have the Warriors not automatically match.

Danny Green. You know, Patty's teammate.

I read your post after reading an article on Draymond and the two just melted together in my mind.

giraldo5 · Post #816 » by **giraldo5** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:31 am

Matches Malone wrote:
NomNomNomParker wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:
You keep bringing up culture change but hasn't the culture already started to change? The fact that we are even in discussions with upper echelon free agents this off-season is a complete culture change from the Kohl era. Adding run-down vets like Wade and Chandler aren't going to take us to the championship and we would be overpaying them on the decline.

Much like GB brought in White, we need the Bucks to bring in that guy that shows that our location isn't as bad as it seems and you can create an awesome legacy here.

Reggie White was in the prime of his career when he came to GB. Wade is about two years removed from his prime. I don't think he would move the needle as far as bringing an allure to Milwaukee for future free agents.

Reggie was past his prime when he signed with GB.

Post #817 » by **paulpressey25** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:31 am

stellation wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
stellation wrote:I don't think Green is a max player, but I think you basically have to max him to have the Warriors not automatically match.

Danny Green. You know, Patty's teammate.

I read your post after reading an article on Draymond and the two just melted together in my mind.

I figured I needed to correlate the players with known NBA Aussies and that would do the trick. 8-)

RRyder823 · Post #818 » by **RRyder823** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:37 am

giraldo5 wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:
NomNomNomParker wrote:
Much like GB brought in White, we need the Bucks to bring in that guy that shows that our location isn't as bad as it seems and you can create an awesome legacy here.

Reggie White was in the prime of his career when he came to GB. Wade is about two years removed from his prime. I don't think he would move the needle as far as bringing an allure to Milwaukee for future free agents.

Reggie was past his prime when he signed with GB.

Shhhh. That's a lil known fact. Even though he was past his prime though didn't mean he still wasn't DPOY good though.

Not sure how much Wades game has dropped off but that mainly has to do with injuries. But honestly from a PR standpoint the benifits are outstanding with the arena issue looming.

That said I have only a slightly worse chance of suiting up for the Bucks next season then Wade has of signing with us

AussieBuck · Post #819 » by **AussieBuck** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:40 am

Probably could have got Splitter and Mills for Cap space.

Shaffty · Post #820 » by **Shaffty** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:12 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:Pray Dudley opts out. Sign Green and Amir. Fluff for Hibbert.

MCW / Vasquez
Middleton / Green
Jabari / Green
Giannis / Amir
Hibbert / Henson

That'd be a cool "get Kidd a competitive roster" team.

I dont know if you want to pay Danny as much as we would have to to get him away from the Spurs for him to be the 6th man