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Post#1 » by Juco24 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:34 pm

Good article printed http://dailyknicks.com/2015/07/30/knicks-michael-sweetney-is-back-in-new-york/ concerning what REALLY happened to this kid. I've bashed him as much as anyone but you never really know what ones going through. On one hand, you say "how can one allow themselves to get to that point?" "where was his friends/family?" and on the other hand you just feel bad for the guy. In the end, I hope he gets or has his life together. Sadly, he just reminds most of us Knicks fans of the extremely bad luck of this franchise.
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Post#2 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:36 pm

Good for him. Sweetney ended up having a better career then Curry
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Post#3 » by GONYK » Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:41 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Good for him. Sweetney ended up having a better career then Curry


The same Eddy Curry with a ring? :lol:
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Post#4 » by JXL » Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:45 pm

Juco24 wrote:Good article printed http://dailyknicks.com/2015/07/30/knicks-michael-sweetney-is-back-in-new-york/ concerning what REALLY happened to this kid. I've bashed him as much as anyone but you never really know what ones going through. On one hand, you say "how can one allow themselves to get to that point?" "where was his friends/family?" and on the other hand you just feel bad for the guy. In the end, I hope he gets or has his life together. Sadly, he just reminds most of us Knicks fans of the extremely bad luck of this franchise.


He reminds me of what Eddy Curry and Raymond Felton looks like when you morph them with Photoshop.
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Post#5 » by King of Canada » Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:52 pm

Eddy Curry had depression too for sure.

Also - did you know that many depression meds make you put on a ton of weight, which reduces testosterone, which makes you feel low on energy? It's a pretty crappy cycle. You can pick out athletes with depression very easily.
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Post#6 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:01 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:Good for him. Sweetney ended up having a better career then Curry


The same Eddy Curry with a ring? :lol:


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Post#7 » by Carl_Karlson » Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:21 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:Good for him. Sweetney ended up having a better career then Curry


The same Eddy Curry with a ring? :lol:


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Post#8 » by Knicksfan20 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:22 pm

King of Canada wrote:Eddy Curry had depression too for sure.

Also - did you know that many depression meds make you put on a ton of weight, which reduces testosterone, which makes you feel low on energy? It's a pretty crappy cycle. You can pick out athletes with depression very easily.


Or maybe depression isn't a real thing and just a made up disease like obesity.

Everyone goes through depression. You arnt born with it. Certain things happen in people's lives which can cause depression which can last days months or years.

Medication Doesn't fix it, just makes it worse. I have seen many people diagnosed with depression and for stupid reasons. One of my good friends got diagnosed when she was 12. Had her on all types of ****. Why? Cuz she started to act up and was sad all the time.

But did the doctors take the time to figure out why? Nope... Let's just disregard puberty a day the fact that she just lost her mother to cancer aND her dad was a sht hole. Maybe that's why she is depressed at 12 years old.

It's all bull ****.
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Post#9 » by Knicksfan20 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:24 pm

King of Canada wrote:Eddy Curry had depression too for sure.

Also - did you know that many depression meds make you put on a ton of weight, which reduces testosterone, which makes you feel low on energy? It's a pretty crappy cycle. You can pick out athletes with depression very easily.


EDDY Currys wife and a couple of his kids are also dead. Maybe that's why he was depressed.
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Post#10 » by King of Canada » Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:32 pm

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King of Canada wrote:Eddy Curry had depression too for sure.

Also - did you know that many depression meds make you put on a ton of weight, which reduces testosterone, which makes you feel low on energy? It's a pretty crappy cycle. You can pick out athletes with depression very easily.


Or maybe depression isn't a real thing and just a made up disease like obesity.

Everyone goes through depression. You arnt born with it. Certain things happen in people's lives which can cause depression which can last days months or years.

Medication Doesn't fix it, just makes it worse. I have seen many people diagnosed with depression and for stupid reasons. One of my good friends got diagnosed when she was 12. Had her on all types of ****. Why? Cuz she started to act up and was sad all the time.

But did the doctors take the time to figure out why? Nope... Let's just disregard puberty a day the fact that she just lost her mother to cancer aND her dad was a sht hole. Maybe that's why she is depressed at 12 years old.

It's all bull ****.


I think it's a real thing for sure, but it's a combination of all sorts of things that they don't really understand yet. Everybody has jumped on the PTSD bandwagon right now, and that it kind of an extreme version of the same kind of thing. I agree that the meds don't really fix anything. All the meds do are level you out, and make you care about everything a whole lot less.
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Post#11 » by Wildcat » Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:43 pm

I remember reading about his father after the draft. I didn't think he would have a problem with his playing career, though.
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Post#12 » by moocow007 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 3:55 pm

He had an opportunity that a infinitely minute percent of the population ever get the chance to do. So, yes, while depression can be a bear, it was on him to blow it.
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Post#13 » by DrCoach » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:00 pm

Knicksfan20 wrote:
King of Canada wrote:Eddy Curry had depression too for sure.

Also - did you know that many depression meds make you put on a ton of weight, which reduces testosterone, which makes you feel low on energy? It's a pretty crappy cycle. You can pick out athletes with depression very easily.


Or maybe depression isn't a real thing and just a made up disease like obesity.

Everyone goes through depression. You arnt born with it. Certain things happen in people's lives which can cause depression which can last days months or years.

Medication Doesn't fix it, just makes it worse. I have seen many people diagnosed with depression and for stupid reasons. One of my good friends got diagnosed when she was 12. Had her on all types of ****. Why? Cuz she started to act up and was sad all the time.

But did the doctors take the time to figure out why? Nope... Let's just disregard puberty a day the fact that she just lost her mother to cancer aND her dad was a sht hole. Maybe that's why she is depressed at 12 years old.

It's all bull ****.


Dude you are contradicting yourself and don't have a clear understanding of depression.

Depression isn't just being "Sad" Depression,
its a chemical imbalance
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Post#14 » by Knicksfan20 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:11 pm

King of Canada wrote:
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King of Canada wrote:Eddy Curry had depression too for sure.

Also - did you know that many depression meds make you put on a ton of weight, which reduces testosterone, which makes you feel low on energy? It's a pretty crappy cycle. You can pick out athletes with depression very easily.


Or maybe depression isn't a real thing and just a made up disease like obesity.

Everyone goes through depression. You arnt born with it. Certain things happen in people's lives which can cause depression which can last days months or years.

Medication Doesn't fix it, just makes it worse. I have seen many people diagnosed with depression and for stupid reasons. One of my good friends got diagnosed when she was 12. Had her on all types of ****. Why? Cuz she started to act up and was sad all the time.

But did the doctors take the time to figure out why? Nope... Let's just disregard puberty a day the fact that she just lost her mother to cancer aND her dad was a sht hole. Maybe that's why she is depressed at 12 years old.

It's all bull ****.


I think it's a real thing for sure, but it's a combination of all sorts of things that they don't really understand yet. Everybody has jumped on the PTSD bandwagon right now, and that it kind of an extreme version of the same kind of thing. I agree that the meds don't really fix anything. All the meds do are level you out, and make you care about everything a whole lot less.


Which in turn makes everything much worse. Some doctor tried to diagnose me with Big Polar when I was 16 cuz I was acting up and had a short temper. Told him to fk off with his medication. Never took medication in my life and I'm fine.

You tell a teenage kid there is something wrong with then they are going to believe you. Their brain is going to believe what you tell then.

Imagine being 12 years old and being told you will never be normal or happy for the rest of your life.

These doctors are criminals and pieces of **** in my eyes.

My brother was on anti depressents for 5 years. When he was 17-22. Why was he diagnosed? Cuz he felt suicidal and was sad all the time.

Why though? Did the doctor try to help him? No.. just gave him some pills to swallow.

But the real reason... his first girlfriend ever and a girl he loved a lot cheated on him and he was heart broken.

Last summer I told him to get off the shi . And he did. And now he feels 100% better then he did before.

My sons mother was diagnosed at 12 with depression also... why? Cuz she didn't want to go to school, hated school and acted out.

But why did she do that? Why didn't she want to go to school? Because her parents didn't have a lot of money so she wore hand me down cloths, big beat up glasses and got made fun of every day she went.

Hmmn.. if I got made fun of every day in school, I sure ad hell wouldn't be happy and not want to go to school either.

It's a bull **** disease and anybody who takes medication for it is just making it worse.

Everyone goes through periods of depression. Some worse the others, but there I'd always a cause for it.. and that cause isn't being born with it.
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Post#15 » by King of Canada » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:18 pm

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Or maybe depression isn't a real thing and just a made up disease like obesity.

Everyone goes through depression. You arnt born with it. Certain things happen in people's lives which can cause depression which can last days months or years.

Medication Doesn't fix it, just makes it worse. I have seen many people diagnosed with depression and for stupid reasons. One of my good friends got diagnosed when she was 12. Had her on all types of ****. Why? Cuz she started to act up and was sad all the time.

But did the doctors take the time to figure out why? Nope... Let's just disregard puberty a day the fact that she just lost her mother to cancer aND her dad was a sht hole. Maybe that's why she is depressed at 12 years old.

It's all bull ****.


I think it's a real thing for sure, but it's a combination of all sorts of things that they don't really understand yet. Everybody has jumped on the PTSD bandwagon right now, and that it kind of an extreme version of the same kind of thing. I agree that the meds don't really fix anything. All the meds do are level you out, and make you care about everything a whole lot less.


Which in turn makes everything much worse. Some doctor tried to diagnose me with Big Polar when I was 16 cuz I was acting up and had a short temper. Told him to fk off with his medication. Never took medication in my life and I'm fine.

You tell a teenage kid there is something wrong with then they are going to believe you. Their brain is going to believe what you tell then.

Imagine being 12 years old and being told you will never be normal or happy for the rest of your life.

These doctors are criminals and pieces of **** in my eyes.

My brother was on anti depressents for 5 years. When he was 17-22. Why was he diagnosed? Cuz he felt suicidal and was sad all the time.

Why though? Did the doctor try to help him? No.. just gave him some pills to swallow.

But the real reason... his first girlfriend ever and a girl he loved a lot cheated on him and he was heart broken.

Last summer I told him to get off the shi . And he did. And now he feels 100% better then he did before.

My sons mother was diagnosed at 12 with depression also... why? Cuz she didn't want to go to school, hated school and acted out.

But why did she do that? Why didn't she want to go to school? Because her parents didn't have a lot of money so she wore hand me down cloths, big beat up glasses and got made fun of every day she went.

Hmmn.. if I got made fun of every day in school, I sure ad hell wouldn't be happy and not want to go to school either.

It's a bull **** disease and anybody who takes medication for it is just making it worse.

Everyone goes through periods of depression. Some worse the others, but there I'd always a cause for it.. and that cause isn't being born with it.


What you're describing is a problem with the American (and Canada) healthcare system and doesn't really have much to do with the reality of the condition. It doesn't have anything to do with being "sad" and getting over it. There are a hundred things that could make a person have depression, including psychological issues stemming from trauma or your childhood, your diet, chemical imbalance, substance abuse, etc... but usually some combination of these things. The drugs are a lazy bandaid handed out by Drs who often don't give a crap. If your brother was suicidal it wasn't because he was sad, and he really needed counseling. Part of that of course is the rashness of youth, but healthy balanced people are not suicidal. I'm generally not for medicating at all except in extreme cases. I agree that most kids that are diagnosed are just normal kids that are bored at school and home.
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Post#16 » by Knicksfan20 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:22 pm

DrCoach wrote:
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King of Canada wrote:Eddy Curry had depression too for sure.

Also - did you know that many depression meds make you put on a ton of weight, which reduces testosterone, which makes you feel low on energy? It's a pretty crappy cycle. You can pick out athletes with depression very easily.


Or maybe depression isn't a real thing and just a made up disease like obesity.

Everyone goes through depression. You arnt born with it. Certain things happen in people's lives which can cause depression which can last days months or years.

Medication Doesn't fix it, just makes it worse. I have seen many people diagnosed with depression and for stupid reasons. One of my good friends got diagnosed when she was 12. Had her on all types of ****. Why? Cuz she started to act up and was sad all the time.

But did the doctors take the time to figure out why? Nope... Let's just disregard puberty a day the fact that she just lost her mother to cancer aND her dad was a sht hole. Maybe that's why she is depressed at 12 years old.

It's all bull ****.


Dude you are contradicting yourself and don't have a clear understanding of depression.

Depression isn't just being "Sad" Depression,
its a chemical imbalance



I know plenty about it and know plenty about psychology and the human brain.

Your brain adapts over time. Imagine being 13 years old and being told you will never be happy in life. Believe me I know plenty on the subject.

You arnt born with a chemical imbalance. How many infant babies or toddlera you see look not happy ? Kids go through it because of school and home life. Some kids have easier lives then others. Some parents are smart enough to be good parents and not look for a drug to put their kids on cuz it's easy.

Anti depressents are addictive, terrible for you, affect your brain and are hard to get off and can cause people to go through withdrawels.
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Post#17 » by Capn'O » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:26 pm

King of Canada wrote:Eddy Curry had depression too for sure.

Also - did you know that many depression meds make you put on a ton of weight, which reduces testosterone, which makes you feel low on energy? It's a pretty crappy cycle. You can pick out athletes with depression very easily.


IIRC, it was fairly known at the time that he was struggling with depression. You could really see it with how he carried himself.

It's too bad he wasn't able to break his cycle sooner. Beneath the weight, you saw a guy with excellent footwork, creativity in the post, and a nose for rebounds. A potential beast in the making. His head was always a step ahead of his body though.
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Post#18 » by King of Canada » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:28 pm

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Or maybe depression isn't a real thing and just a made up disease like obesity.

Everyone goes through depression. You arnt born with it. Certain things happen in people's lives which can cause depression which can last days months or years.

Medication Doesn't fix it, just makes it worse. I have seen many people diagnosed with depression and for stupid reasons. One of my good friends got diagnosed when she was 12. Had her on all types of ****. Why? Cuz she started to act up and was sad all the time.

But did the doctors take the time to figure out why? Nope... Let's just disregard puberty a day the fact that she just lost her mother to cancer aND her dad was a sht hole. Maybe that's why she is depressed at 12 years old.

It's all bull ****.


Dude you are contradicting yourself and don't have a clear understanding of depression.

Depression isn't just being "Sad" Depression,
its a chemical imbalance



I know plenty about it and know plenty about psychology and the human brain.

Your brain adapts over time. Imagine being 13 years old and being told you will never be happy in life. Believe me I know plenty on the subject.

You arnt born with a chemical imbalance. How many infant babies or toddlera you see look not happy ? Kids go through it because of school and home life. Some kids have easier lives then others. Some parents are smart enough to be good parents and not look for a drug to put their kids on cuz it's easy.

Anti depressents are addictive, terrible for you, affect your brain and are hard to get off and can cause people to go through withdrawels.


Oh, I've been there too. Got off antidepressants a few years ago, and feel 1000 times better. You're right about the withdrawal too. Mine lasted months. Way worse than hard drugs to get off just because of the withdrawal symptoms.
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Post#19 » by Juco24 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:29 pm

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Or maybe depression isn't a real thing and just a made up disease like obesity.

Everyone goes through depression. You arnt born with it. Certain things happen in people's lives which can cause depression which can last days months or years.

Medication Doesn't fix it, just makes it worse. I have seen many people diagnosed with depression and for stupid reasons. One of my good friends got diagnosed when she was 12. Had her on all types of ****. Why? Cuz she started to act up and was sad all the time.

But did the doctors take the time to figure out why? Nope... Let's just disregard puberty a day the fact that she just lost her mother to cancer aND her dad was a sht hole. Maybe that's why she is depressed at 12 years old.

It's all bull ****.


Dude you are contradicting yourself and don't have a clear understanding of depression.

Depression isn't just being "Sad" Depression,
its a chemical imbalance



I know plenty about it and know plenty about psychology and the human brain.

Your brain adapts over time. Imagine being 13 years old and being told you will never be happy in life. Believe me I know plenty on the subject.

You arnt born with a chemical imbalance. How many infant babies or toddlera you see look not happy ? Kids go through it because of school and home life. Some kids have easier lives then others. Some parents are smart enough to be good parents and not look for a drug to put their kids on cuz it's easy.

Anti depressents are addictive, terrible for you, affect your brain and are hard to get off and can cause people to go through withdrawels.


You're deep, bruh! And I do agree with you. Doctors wanted to put my son on drugs as well.. why? because he was acting out - did they ever think it was because his mom & I couldn't get along? When we split and I FINALLY manned up and started being a dad --- MIRACULOUSLY, he started coming around. He told me one day - "I didn't think you loved me". Of course there were MANY sleepless nights but we endured. The easy way out is not necessarily the best way out.

And in Sweetney's case, you wonder if the folk around him just kept feeding him bs as opposed to really trying to help him.
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Post#20 » by moocow007 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:32 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Good for him. Sweetney ended up having a better career then Curry


But he really didn't.

Sweetney never made it out of his rookie contract. He averaged 6.5ppg, 4.5rpg on 48.5% shooting for his short career. His best season was his 2nd season where he averaged still just 8.4ppg, 5.4rpg on 45% shooting.

Curry played for 11 seasons in the NBA. He averaged 12.9ppg, 5.2rpg on 54.5% shooting for his career. His best season was his 6th season where he averaged 19.5ppg, 7.0rpg on 57.6% shooting.

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