Hello Brooklyn wrote:Zachbretton wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:
lol what if we won that draft and got John Wall? Or what if we never traded for Deron and took Lillard? Or what if we won fewer games without Deron and drafted Davis?
I'd rather endure that nonsense than be stuck in mediocrity forever.
See you say that, but look at teams stuck in the losing cycle because they followed that mentality. You really think Kings fans are super happy with the trajectory of things?
It's all a big trade off, and obviously no one is shooting down the idea that drafting a star is wonderful and probably a key to a championship... But it's just unrealistic to be like, "lose, find star, win, get more players, win championship" rarely does that ever pan out, if one part of that cycle breaks it all falls apart. In the mean time if we focus on staying relevant and building slowly through the picks we have and can acquire, the signings we can make and a steady stream of smart trades... I think we become a more respectable team and a more enjoyable team.
I'd rather be the Griz than the Kings
Yes drafting is important, but so is everything else. So you can't just say, "you're doing it all wrong!" ,"Lose for a star! Then we'll be a great team"
There's a lot more to team building than just drafting the "star"
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What cycle are we stuck in? We barely made the playoffs last year. It doesn't look like we will this year. Is this "cycle" we have going really better than sucking and having good young player to look forward to?
Drafting is the only way that works. So if I'm going to build a team for the future that what I'm gonna focus on. There is a lot of team building but it has to start somewhere.
Yes this cycle is better, because I can be happy we're putting a product on the floor that will try and win, be fun and give it there all. Yes this cycle were in is important because come next offseason or the following one we can be a destination for quality players to come to. We can get excited about sure fire players than playing the guessing game of draft picks.
If we're talking percentages here. I'd rather we get a player I know 99% what they can do than a shot in the dark with a draft pick.
That's why I enjoy our plan now, we can keep being in the conversation of teams in the east, and grow, acquire more talent and win. We did what was needed to shed the mistake of the DWill era, but I'm not ready to lose just for a shot at a pick. I'm ready to win and keep winning. Like Prok always brings up, we want to aim to get a shot with a guy like Durant next summer. Even if it's a 0.01% chance he signs with us...
If it's between a chance at signing Durant or a chance at a "star" in the draft, I take the option that gives me the talent I know about each time. Then we don't have to spend years figuring out how to build the right winning team around our "star" (given that said "star" even pans out).
I don't know how short a period of time you've been watching basketball, but this championship or bust mentality is childish. I want a team that's fun, competitive, and lays it's all on the court. I want a team to win, with players I can enjoy seeing succeed. Sure if losing is what's the immediate best option, like the Spurs back in the day, I see it... But just saying "we won't win without a drafted star" and expect us to just keep digging until we find one is sad and boring. If you want that, go watch the Sixers, Kings or any of those other franchises.
But alas, you only see one way to win in this league, and thus no one will be able to reason with you. It's the same cyclical argument being had, some here are being rational and seeing the value in ALL sides of how to build a team, and all you see is one.
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