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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#521 » by Indomitable » Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:47 am

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truth18 wrote:Men and children can be raped as well. And although a lot of people will have issues, some easily overcome them. Some never do. Most are in between. Everyone is affected differently. Your comments about trauma being inherently worse than death stereotype rape victims.

Your last sentence is somewhat disgusting if that's alright to say. I know I am a guest here, and in no way is this a personal attack, but you need to research trauma. Hell, buy a DSM. They are usually under 10$.

How do you know how mentally strong this (supposedly) assaulted woman is? You think rape is some death touch for life?

It didn't seem to stop Rita Hayworth, Oprah, Fiona Apple, Tyler Perry, and countless others from being incredibly successful, well balanced people, with normal human issues. Now look, I'm not a fan of those last two people, but ****, some people are just stronger than others, man. Rape isn't some kind of permanently draining affliction for everyone. I guess if I lose an arm at some point, lose someone close to me, get a disease that can be beat or become blind, I'll just go commit suicide. Too devastating.


OT, sorry, but yeah, needed to be said.

You don't come back from murder. You don't get a choice. You don't come back as this physical self. Someone robs you of that.

Anyway, things are really starting to look like he didn't do anything. But the whole situation still feels odd. Maybe someone in his crew **** up and she's blaming it on him? Either way, the lawyer stuff and lack of criminal charges (NOT her coming out with this after years, being a woman, wanting anonymity, or even telling a crazy story [I don't believe her, but way more insane **** has gone down, I can't say that right now]) are starting to make me believe that she might be trying to pull some ****. Or maybe her family/friends/the first lawyer pushed her into this.

I'm still quite confused, but I liked Derrick's tweet. Being a man about it, if he's lying, **** will go down hard. He probably knows he hasn't done anything wrong and his other mistresses are not going to lie. At least I hope. :usa: :hug: :usa:

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Trust me, I dont have any problems with anyone ever coming at me personally. I wish realgm would let you go at people, makes trash talk and ish more fun. The board is too strict. So no need to apolagize.

And yes I know men can get raped, and boys (I swear every female teacher is doing stuff with these 14yr old students now a days). Heck I think I heard more men get raped than girls. But for now I was just talking about the girls.

I was just saying it can be pretty dang devastating having to live through that ish. No I dont know how mentally strong someone is, and I am sure a lot of people can get over it, but a lot of people could also suffer life long depression.

But like I said, it is my own messed up logic for it and I never expect anyone to agree with what I said.

You sound like an ignorant child and incredibly weak. Survival is hard and laying down is always easy. Growup and get some resolve.
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#522 » by truth18 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:48 am

RememberLu wrote:Tyler Perry was raped?


See? Exactly my point. Many normal people have been raped, man, and they stay normal, albeit with some extra baggage. But who the **** doesn't go through life without having some heavy stuff go down?

Its like any other very traumatic, possibly ptsd inducing event. Of course she will be able to trust people again.

I forgot Keyon Dooling. Dude is a **** hero, man. (Ignore the bad title, its a great article). Rape is everywhere.

http://grantland.com/features/keyon-dooling-recovery-from-childhood-sex-abuse-nba-boston-celtics-miami-heat/
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#523 » by Jstock12 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:49 am

This is so hard to believe. That expresionless face of Derrick Rose tearing down a door of an innocent woman's apartment and gang-raping her while she sleeps.

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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#524 » by dice » Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:53 am

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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#525 » by Polynice4Pippen » Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:53 am

RememberLu wrote:Tyler Perry was raped?


Gabrielle Union too.
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#526 » by truth18 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:56 am



God damn, man. That pos Vester in the article below. Not a good past few days for black men like myself.

**** the media for just dragging him through the mud without real evidence/time.

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Re: TMZ: Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#527 » by GetBuLLish » Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:57 am

Wingy wrote:Just call me the pope!

Hopefully my post above explains it better. I get why people question these specific allegations.


I understand the sentiment of your comment if it was being applied to any type of normal rape accusation case.

But this case is so ridiculously outlandish that it is absolutely justified to harshly criticize the basis of her allegations. I mean, when reading her complaint it seemed like each allegation was more absurd than the previous one.
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Re: TMZ: Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#528 » by errisal » Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:01 am

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errisal wrote: This just shows that Rose is just as dumb off the court as he is on the court.


You call out Rose for being dumb off the floor, but then make this statement...

errisal wrote:I say Mike Tyson his ass and give him the same judge Tyson had.


The irony.


What Irony? Mike Tyson spent 3 years in prison for a crime he might or might not have committed. The reason Tyson went down is because he was a marked man and kept putting himself in situations that would eventually doom him. The reference to the judge is that she was a former rape prosecutor.
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Re: TMZ: Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#529 » by truth18 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:02 am

GetBuLLish wrote:
Wingy wrote:Just call me the pope!

Hopefully my post above explains it better. I get why people question these specific allegations.


I understand the sentiment of your comment if it was being applied to any type of normal rape accusation case.

But this case is so ridiculously outlandish that it is absolutely justified to harshly criticize the basis of her allegations. I mean, when reading her complaint it seemed like each allegation was more absurd than the previous one.


But there are much better issues to point at. Her lawyers, Derrick's exact location at the time of the rape, lack of criminal charges (not the length of time, the nature of a lawsuit vs. charges). And who leaked this info? Surely not him, and probably not the court.

The allegations do sound ridiculous, but it feels unfair to just deny them in any rape case unless absolutely outlandish. But perhaps that's just a personal principle that doesn't mean much in the end. Just makes me feel odd. Definitely some confusing **** in her take on the night though.
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#530 » by DuckIII » Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:07 am

Proven_Winner wrote:I'm still stuck on how 2 lawyers couldn't find any evidence yet they are still acknowledging her case.



She might have just fired the first two lawyers. Or she had two lawyers at the outset from the same firm, and fired them and hired a new one. The "third lawyer" thing doesn't mean as much as people are suggesting in this thread. It could be a sign of a weak case, don't get me wrong. But it could mean a variety things having nothing to do with that at all.

And as an aside, there is a boatload of discussion in this thread about the law that is all kinds of wrong. In fact, almost none of it is accurate. Just a word of warning to readers.
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#531 » by bulliedog8 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:19 am

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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#532 » by Droseisthe1 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:31 am

This is where having a "fall guy" definitely would help. Hope Derrick was listening to Cris Carter! Ryan Allen, Randall Hampton, time to start earning, young bloods.
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#533 » by jcuuofd » Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:34 am

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Proven_Winner wrote:I'm still stuck on how 2 lawyers couldn't find any evidence yet they are still acknowledging her case.



She might have just fired the first two lawyers. Or she had two lawyers at the outset from the same firm, and fired them and hired a new one. The "third lawyer" thing doesn't mean as much as people are suggesting in this thread. It could be a sign of a weak case, don't get me wrong. But it could mean a variety things having nothing to do with that at all.

And as an aside, there is a boatload of discussion in this thread about the law that is all kinds of wrong. In fact, almost none of it is accurate. Just a word of warning to readers.


The odds are very low that two different attorneys deserved to be fired. This is usually a sign that the client is crazy and it should be a red flag. The odds are that it was her former attorneys who stopped working for her and that she did not fire them. If an attorney finds out their client is lying they have to withdraw, but they can't tell anyone about it. I would not be at all surprised if her former attorneys have information or knowledge that would exonerate Rose. I would not be at all surprised if her story changed 3 times with each new attorney. If they were on a contingency fee it could also indicate that they felt her case was unwinnable and they would not get paid.
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#534 » by madvillian » Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:47 am

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Proven_Winner wrote:I'm still stuck on how 2 lawyers couldn't find any evidence yet they are still acknowledging her case.



She might have just fired the first two lawyers. Or she had two lawyers at the outset from the same firm, and fired them and hired a new one. The "third lawyer" thing doesn't mean as much as people are suggesting in this thread. It could be a sign of a weak case, don't get me wrong. But it could mean a variety things having nothing to do with that at all.

And as an aside, there is a boatload of discussion in this thread about the law that is all kinds of wrong. In fact, almost none of it is accurate. Just a word of warning to readers.


The odds are very low that two different attorneys deserved to be fired. This is usually a sign that the client is crazy and it should be a red flag. The odds are that it was her former attorneys who stopped working for her and that she did not fire them. If an attorney finds out their client is lying they have to withdraw, but they can't tell anyone about it. I would not be at all surprised if her former attorneys have information or knowledge that would exonerate Rose. I would not be at all surprised if her story changed 3 times with each new attorney. If they were on a contingency fee it could also indicate that they felt her case was unwinnable and they would not get paid.


Exactly, I'm with you. The 3rd lawyer thing is a read flag, especially when considered in conjunction with this lawyer's apparent misdeeds and that he doesn't even practice this area of law. Basically she seems like she "lawyer shopped" and much like doctor shopping the only one that would take the case / write the RX is the shady one that needs the money.

Derrick's lawyer seemed pretty non-plussed today and while that's SOP, it's also IMO a sign that they new about this and have prepared some work already.
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#535 » by JohnnyKILLroy » Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:59 am

Anyone have any idea what the expected timeline is going to be?
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#536 » by ralphisBullsFan » Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:10 am

The Media should be ashamed of themselves for branding Rose as a "bill cosby" based on this daemon womens outlandish allegations and all the shady details behind this women claims...Sure this women will recant her story in 6 months or less after she's exposed but Rose will be scarred by this for life at best, at worse it can ruin it... Sick times we live in
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#537 » by asuran » Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:19 am

http://deadspin.com/here-are-the-details-from-the-derrick-rose-rape-lawsuit-1726964421

Not putting in judgement. It's up to the investigation to come up with conclusion but this is some freaky stuff!!
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Post#538 » by Profound23 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:34 am

ralphisBullsFan wrote:The Media should be ashamed of themselves for branding Rose as a "bill cosby" based on this daemon womens outlandish allegations and all the shady details behind this women claims...Sure this women will recant her story in 6 months or less after she's exposed but Rose will be scarred by this for life at best, at worse it can ruin it... Sick times we live in




And some Rose fans should be ashamed for calling her a hoe/money grabber. This is possible, but not for certain and it makes me sick to see so many people jump down her throat. For those wondering how it could be true and take so long for her to come forward, this is why.

I don't condemn him or her yet, just can't believe how many people swear he is innocent.
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Re: OT: TMZ - Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#539 » by TheGOATRises007 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:40 am

asuran wrote:http://deadspin.com/here-are-the-details-from-the-derrick-rose-rape-lawsuit-1726964421

Not putting in judgement. It's up to the investigation to come up with conclusion but this is some freaky stuff!!


Felt sick reading that.
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Re: TMZ: Rose being sued/accused of drugging and gang raping former GF 

Post#540 » by kyrv » Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:41 am

GetBuLLish wrote:
Wingy wrote:Just call me the pope!

Hopefully my post above explains it better. I get why people question these specific allegations.


I understand the sentiment of your comment if it was being applied to any type of normal rape accusation case.

But this case is so ridiculously outlandish that it is absolutely justified to harshly criticize the basis of her allegations. I mean, when reading her complaint it seemed like each allegation was more absurd than the previous one.


Again I have no clue about this case, at all, but only going as a complete outsider and comparing it to previous cases of this type, it does appear to be in parts outlandish. Doesn't mean it's not all true, again, and there is not really a way this is 'good', and I don't know how the NBA will view it, but I have almost zero concern that Rose would miss time. He will need to write some checks, or at least one to a lawyer, but it appears the person is not after legal justice but rather money to make the pain go away. I'm not sure if any league has ever suspended a player based on the outcome of a civil suit? (Though it's a new era so there may be a first at some point.)

Some of the stuff I saw, person A dating person B and having relations, asking or even pressuring them to do things, big deal. So what. Just...any parts where he MADE her do something (which would only take one such event to flip this thing so to speak).

I don't criticize her at all without knowing, but I can certainly understand people being skeptical, to say the least.
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