NXT Thread II

detroitKG · Post #401 » by **detroitKG** » Thu Oct 8, 2015 1:40 am

God I love this!

Post #402 » by **Stanford** » Thu Oct 8, 2015 1:40 am

Less marking out, ladies

detroitKG · Post #403 » by **detroitKG** » Thu Oct 8, 2015 1:53 am

Sasha is HEEL perfection lol

Post #404 » by **Stanford** » Thu Oct 8, 2015 1:55 am

Oh man, Izzy crying!

Post #405 » by **Stanford** » Thu Oct 8, 2015 1:56 am

Banks is vicious with those stomps

Post #406 » by **Stanford** » Thu Oct 8, 2015 2:10 am

detroitKG · Post #407 » by **detroitKG** » Thu Oct 8, 2015 2:11 am

Holy Hell that was indeed AWESOME!

Post #408 » by **Stanford** » Thu Oct 8, 2015 2:13 am

Iron man matches are tough because the crowd starts to wait around for the finish at around 10-12 minutes remaining. They did a hell of a job keeping that from happening.

SDR!

detroitKG · Post #409 » by **detroitKG** » Thu Oct 8, 2015 2:14 am

The storytelling in that match was unreal and to keep the crowd the entire match...Sasha and Bayley are my fav Heel/face combo in the WWE period.

Post #410 » by **Stanford** » Thu Oct 8, 2015 2:15 am

No! Don't end!

edfmx86 · Post #411 » by **edfmx86** » Thu Oct 8, 2015 2:15 am

What a **** show. Im a grown ass man with tears in my eyes.

Post #412 » by **Stanford** » Thu Oct 8, 2015 2:17 am

One of the best takeovers ever. Every match was above average.

improper · Post #413 » by **improper** » Thu Oct 8, 2015 4:20 am

While I disagree with the decision to have Corbin and Rhyno in the finals over Jordan and Gable (who just scream future WWE tag team champs to me...they're great in the ring and likable despite being heels), it's just sad how much better the average NXT event is over a WWE PPV. Basically every match tonight was great.

Asuka and Crews look like future champions, by the way. Both are incredibly impressive. If the WWE can't figure out how to make Crews a champion within two or three years, they clearly just don't like black people. The guy is just incredible. He's the best in-ring NXT guy I've seen since Owens (who I really hope wins the main title someday soon...so talented). Not sure if he can carry the mic like Owens, but based on his promos he doesn't seem awful.

Post #414 » by **Stanford** » Thu Oct 8, 2015 4:30 am

Just rewatched the show. The Jordan Gable Rhyno Corbin match was flawless. If I had only rewatched that match, I'd say it was match of the night. But the main event was truly special.

Also great on rewatch: Emma's butt

improper · Post #415 » by **improper** » Thu Oct 8, 2015 4:49 am

So if this is what we can expect when Triple H finally takes over the WWE, I hope Vince dies tomorrow.

It's just sad that an afterthought developmental program consistently puts on better shows than its million dollar counterpart. I've felt genuine emotion during multiple NXT shows the past year. The last time I felt anything like emotion during a WWE PPV was two years ago when Daniel Bryan won the title at Wrestlemania, and that only happened because the crowd revolted for months.

We should probably all take back anything bad we've ever said about Triple H. Because it's pretty clear he's actually concerned about good wrestling. And that's what I really want to see.

improper · Post #416 » by **improper** » Thu Oct 8, 2015 4:51 am

Double post.

Post #417 » by **Latrell** » Thu Oct 8, 2015 4:27 pm

Anyone else find themselves skipping or fast forwarding 2/3 of RAW and SmackDown but not missing a second of NXT?

skbucks1985 · Post #418 » by **skbucks1985** » Thu Oct 8, 2015 5:07 pm

improper wrote:So if this is what we can expect when Triple H finally takes over the WWE, I hope Vince dies tomorrow.

It's just sad that an afterthought developmental program consistently puts on better shows than its million dollar counterpart. I've felt genuine emotion during multiple NXT shows the past year. The last time I felt anything like emotion during a WWE PPV was two years ago when Daniel Bryan won the title at Wrestlemania, and that only happened because the crowd revolted for months.

We should probably all take back anything bad we've ever said about Triple H. Because it's pretty clear he's actually concerned about good wrestling. And that's what I really want to see.

NEVER!

I will say that I do think as the years have passed its increasingly less about him and more about the future of the product. I'd like to think that if a situation like Night of Champions 2011 happened today he would insist on the result going the other way. But he wasn't there at that time.

In fairness to the main roster, I think its virtually impossible to tell a really good 6-8 month story when you have 5 hours of weekly programming. I don't think my math is that off when I say in terms of sheer number of minutes they've been on there respective shows, the amount of TV time Bayley will get in 9 months is the equivalent of what a regularly used girl on the main roster like Paige or Nikki gets in 2 months. A large part of the reason it worked with Bryan was because that wasn't the plan so they phased him out of the main event scene in October. From a kayfabe perspective, Bryan-Sheamus 5th or 6th from the top made sense as his placement for WM.

skbucks1985 · Post #419 » by **skbucks1985** » Thu Oct 8, 2015 5:10 pm

Latrell wrote:Anyone else find themselves skipping or fast forwarding 2/3 of RAW and SmackDown but not missing a second of NXT?

There was an episode a few months when I was working and didn't get home until 9 CT and despite starting the show 2 hours late wound up catching up and watched the last few minutes of the main event live.

improper · Post #420 » by **improper** » Thu Oct 8, 2015 5:33 pm

safi wrote:NEVER!

I will say that I do think as the years have passed its increasingly less about him and more about the future of the product. I'd like to think that if a situation like Night of Champions 2011 happened today he would insist on the result going the other way. But he wasn't there at that time.

In fairness to the main roster, I think its virtually impossible to tell a really good 6-8 month story when you have 5 hours of weekly programming. I don't think my math is that off when I say in terms of sheer number of minutes they've been on there respective shows, the amount of TV time Bayley will get in 9 months is the equivalent of what a regularly used girl on the main roster like Paige or Nikki gets in 2 months. A large part of the reason it worked with Bryan was because that wasn't the plan so they phased him out of the main event scene in October. From a kayfabe perspective, Bryan-Sheamus 5th or 6th from the top made sense as his placement for WM.

It's probably like that with most people. When you're still young, you're thinking about your legacy. Triple H doesn't really have to worry about his legacy any more. It's basically set at this point. Now he can focus on helping talented younger people build theirs, and in a way NXT will be a part of his legacy too. If it's a resounding success and more of its performers make it to the top of the WWE roster like Seth Rollins has, that's a feather in his cap for overseeing their development.

As far as TV time goes, I think you're right. I also think part of the problem with the WWE is that, when two people have a rivalry, they wrestle each other far too often. When you see the same two people in the ring together twice a week, it gets boring. They need to mix it up more. Not every match has to be rivalry-related, and in fact most shouldn't be. Rivalries should be built via occasional confrontations, promos, backstage attacks, and interference every now and then (but by no means every match). We don't need to see Roman Reigns and Bray Wyatt fight each other every goddamn night. Let them fight some other people (this also gives them valuable experience that fighting the same guy every night does not) while the rivalry simmers and then comes to a boil at a PPV.

So it really comes down to creative just being lazy, I think. It's just easier to have the two guys in a rivalry keep trading wins than to come up with other matches and angles.