2015–16 UEFA Champions League

Foye · Post #901 » by **Foye** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:48 pm

truth18 wrote:Wenger> Pep

Didnt watch since I was at work but at this point its 100% sure Bayern will never win the CL again until Fraudiola steps down and takes his bullsh*t tactical approach with him.:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

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MaliBrah · Post #902 » by **MaliBrah** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:01 pm

they did really well except in the final third , muller and lewandowski were pretty much neutralized and neuer had a howler but I guess he's allowed to make one after that save on walcott.

their defensive line was so high though and they looked like they were going to get blown out on the counter but we were careless in passing/finishing. A real madrid or barca would rip it apart

DD12 · Post #903 » by **DD12** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:17 pm

Or Gala

Doormatt · Post #904 » by **Doormatt** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:34 pm

that game gave me cancer

cgf · Post #905 » by **cgf** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:13 am

DD12 wrote:
cgf wrote:
Baphomet wrote:It's hard to say he's overrated when Massimo is the only person who rates him to begin with

That's harsh. His mom probably thinks very highly of him as well.

Why did you not answer my question?

Because it's a stupid question? Nothing's happened to Pep; Bayern lost. They're annoyingly good this year, but even they weren't going to win every single match all year long. Barca and injuries are still the only things that can stop them in the CL, just like last season...maybe Real if they got healthy and on top form.

DD12 · Post #906 » by **DD12** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:16 am

They cant won **** this year. They couldn't win **** last year.
They couldn't win **** before last year.

There is no way this team could destroy any team which is proven past 2 years.

Pep is a terrible coach as we, truth and I, said before. He is wonderful at destroying his own team though. From Heynckes team to this awful team.

They're annoyingly good? Only "OK" team they played against was Arsenal this year so far and they lost. Beating mainzer and hsv doesn't mean anything

Hellcrooner · Post #907 » by **Hellcrooner** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 5:39 am

lol really.
Because Bayern has won 25 Champion league titles right?

People is incredible you CANT demmand teams teams to win the CL.

Real had a dryout of 40 years before the 7th then what was it 12 years between 9th and 10th?

barsa had a 13 year dryout between 1st and 2nd and now in recent times for all they dominance and supremacy this past years they only managed to win 4 out of 8

Ferguson won twice in 30 years

Bayern in question 30something years dryout until they got their 4th then 10`years to get the 5th.
Inter, almost 50 year dryout until getting it done again.

Ac Milan a decade and counting ( and a 25 year dry out from the first ones until sachi)

and so on.

Foye · Post #908 » by **Foye** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:52 am

Hellcrooner wrote:lol really.
Because Bayern has won 25 Champion league titles right?

People is incredible you CANT demmand teams teams to win the CL.

Real had a dryout of 40 years before the 7th then what was it 12 years between 9th and 10th?

barsa had a 13 year dryout between 1st and 2nd and now in recent times for all they dominance and supremacy this past years they only managed to win 4 out of 8

Ferguson won twice in 30 years

Bayern in question 30something years dryout until they got their 4th then 10`years to get the 5th.
Inter, almost 50 year dryout until getting it done again.

Ac Milan a decade and counting ( and a 25 year dry out from the first ones until sachi)

and so on.

No. He has a world cup winning core and took over a legendary team from Heynckes. If he goes without winning a CL throphy his stint at Bayern is a big disappointment.

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Merc_Porto · Post #909 » by **Merc_Porto** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:35 am

Well, let's not forget the injuries.

Also, if i remember well, Pep built the best team in the history of football just a few years ago.

Rasho Brezec · Post #910 » by **Rasho Brezec** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:44 am

Team Zlatan here, **** Guardiola.

DD12 · Post #911 » by **DD12** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:32 pm

mercgold3 wrote:Well, let's not forget the injuries.

Also, if i remember well, Pep built the best team in the history of football just a few years ago.

He didn't build anything. Thanks to cruyff. In this logic, Rijkaard must have been a great manager too but last i check he got fired from every single club he managed after barca.

It is the system. Not the coach.

Det the Threat · Post #912 » by **Det the Threat** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:41 pm

mercgold3 wrote:Well, let's not forget the injuries.

Also, if i remember well, Pep built the best team in the history of football just a few years ago.

I rate Pep as well and think he's a good and innovative manager. He also had the guts to cut guys like Ronaldinho, as he started at Barcelona.

Still, even a guy like Michael Frontzeck(worst points per game in Bundesliga history, I think) would look good managing a team featuring Lionel Messi.

Merc_Porto · Post #913 » by **Merc_Porto** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:51 pm

DD12 wrote:
mercgold3 wrote:Well, let's not forget the injuries.

Also, if i remember well, Pep built the best team in the history of football just a few years ago.

He didn't build anything. Thanks to cruyff. In this logic, Rijkaard must have been a great manager too but last i check he got fired from every single club he managed after barca.

It is the system. Not the coach.

The system ? lol
When Pep took the Barça job, that team with Rijkaard was 2 years whithout any tittle.
Ronaldinho and Deco were dismissed by Pep = Talking about a decision with courage.

But most important, that Barça team practiced the most beautiful football ever. Obviously, you don't agree, but i think most people think the same same way on this.

That Barça team was the best ever. Not only for the tittles, but because of the football they showed.

DD12 · Post #914 » by **DD12** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:11 pm

Pre Guardiola Bayern and 2000s Arsenal were the best for me. Barca is just system. They had guardiola, now they have luis they still won everything. They had ronaldinho, now they have messi. When luis and messi goes, someone else will replace them with no problem.

cgf · Post #915 » by **cgf** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:13 pm

DD12 wrote:They cant won **** this year. They couldn't win **** last year.
They couldn't win **** before last year.

There is no way this team could destroy any team which is proven past 2 years.

Pep is a terrible coach as we, truth and I, said before. He is wonderful at destroying his own team though. From Heynckes team to this awful team.

They're annoyingly good? Only "OK" team they played against was Arsenal this year so far and they lost. Beating mainzer and hsv doesn't mean anything

Injuries and Barca were the only thing that could stop them last year; and those two are the only thing that can stop them again this year.

DD12 · Post #916 » by **DD12** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:14 pm

What happened previous year?

So then if auba missed the chances and ramsey didn't score from 84737 yards, gala would have made it.

cgf · Post #917 » by **cgf** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:31 pm

Nothing; few sane people expect a coach to win a CL in his first year at the helm; and they ran into an extremely focused and healthy Real who were winning la Decima that year no matter what.

DD12 · Post #918 » by **DD12** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:40 pm

Lmfao i love the excuses. With this logic no coach in the should be fired within their first 5 years.

Year 1 - we are getting used to it
Year 2 - we had many injuries
Year 3 - barca was so good
Year 4 - real was going to win anyway
Year 5 - well we sucked.

cgf · Post #919 » by **cgf** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:46 pm

Year 1 - New coach and Real's year
Year 2 - Injuries and Barca's strong enough to take advantage

I know that the number 2 and the number 5 look similar Massi, but they're actually quite different. 2 is 1+1, i.e. it has been 2 years since you posted about how the German NT would never win anything again; whereas 5 is 1+1+1+1+1, i.e. 5 years ago you were posting about how german clubs would never play in the CL final or win the CL again.

Hellcrooner · Post #920 » by **Hellcrooner** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:01 pm

lol the system.
pep had the balls to send ronaldinho , deco and after a year etoo packing and get back pique who was a bench player in mufc and bring up busquets and pedro who were UNKNOWNS from the b team.

oh he lost to Madrid and to Barcelona.

yeh, what a tragedy, it has never happened before.....