So what are the chances of us pursuing Schroeder?

[Max Green]

Can someone give me a tl;dr, is there a legit reason we are discussing the possibility of adding Schroeder or Teague or is it just fan speculation?

Fan speculation based on Schroeder saying he doesn't want to be a backup anymore.

[Sherman Douglas]

Nevermind I read through a lot of it. Schroeder for Giannis or Jabari

[jayu70]

Neither Teague or Shroeder will be available for trade this season (unless it's some out of this world offer).
Just today Coach Bud was on ATL radio and he said to expect to see more Teague/Shroeder lineup.
In order for the Hawks to get good value for Dennis he has to take another jump like he did from season 1 to season 2 this year.
The PG position is a strength for the Hawks, no sense in weakening that position unless it's for a significant improvement at another position that can actually help on the court THIS season.
So offering guys like Ennis and Plumlee....nope.

[emunney]

Just today Coach Bud was on ATL radio and he said to expect to see more Teague/Shroeder lineup.

I didn't think they'd trade him until I saw this. Coach Claims Impending Utilization of Nonsensical Lineup is the trope immediately followed by Disgruntled Backup Traded. It never fails.

[jayu70]

Just today Coach Bud was on ATL radio and he said to expect to see more Teague/Shroeder lineup.

I didn't think they'd trade him until I saw this. Coach Claims Impending Utilization of Nonsensical Lineup is the trope immediately followed by Disgruntled Backup Traded. It never fails.

Did you watch any Hawks games last year? I don't think you did or you would be already aware that it occurred quite a bit last season so it's nothing unexpected for Hawks fans. It's also happened in the preseason.
Teague has also said that the next step for his improvement was moving without the ball and working off the ball when paired with Dennis (article from start of training camp).

[buckboy]

The Bucks should have tried to swap the Lakers pick, another Bucks unprotected pick, Inglis, and Henson for Marcus Smart

Good God would that have been terrible.

[TroyD92]

I see there is still a group of posters circle jerking over Marcus Smart.

[emunney]

Just today Coach Bud was on ATL radio and he said to expect to see more Teague/Shroeder lineup.

I didn't think they'd trade him until I saw this. Coach Claims Impending Utilization of Nonsensical Lineup is the trope immediately followed by Disgruntled Backup Traded. It never fails.

Did you watch any Hawks games last year? I don't think you did or you would be already aware that it occurred quite a bit last season so it's nothing unexpected for Hawks fans. It's also happened in the preseason.
Teague has also said that the next step for his improvement was moving without the ball and working off the ball when paired with Dennis (article from start of training camp).

I'd never even heard of the Atlanta Hawks before this thread started.

I love when people say stuff as if you can't just look up that they played 189 minutes together. Would have had to watch a lot of Hawks games. BTW, how'd those 189 minutes go, Mad Men's Pete Campbell?

[jayu70]

I didn't think they'd trade him until I saw this. Coach Claims Impending Utilization of Nonsensical Lineup is the trope immediately followed by Disgruntled Backup Traded. It never fails.

Did you watch any Hawks games last year? I don't think you did or you would be already aware that it occurred quite a bit last season so it's nothing unexpected for Hawks fans. It's also happened in the preseason.
Teague has also said that the next step for his improvement was moving without the ball and working off the ball when paired with Dennis (article from start of training camp).

I'd never even heard of the Atlanta Hawks before this thread started.

I love when people say stuff as if you can't just look up that they played 189 minutes together. Would have had to watch a lot of Hawks games.

yeah, I didn't think so. Looking up the number of minutes played together is easy. The results on the court of them playing together is what matters - was it successful or not
You responded as if Coach Bud said something new and earth shattering as if he hadn't done it previously.

[emunney]

I responded as if it was a nonsensical, doomed, disadvantageous lineup and basically the kiss of death for Schroeder's time in Atlanta, all of which is true. 189 minutes is for all intents and purposes nothing. Jabari Parker played 40 fewer minutes with his backup and he only played in 25 games. They barely played more together than Bayless and Ennis. Nobody around here's touting that Death Star. "Clearly you didn't watch the Bucks if you don't know about those killer Jerryd Bayless and Tyler Ennis backcourts."

[ReasonablySober]

Did you watch any Hawks games last year? I don't think you did or you would be already aware that it occurred quite a bit last season so it's nothing unexpected for Hawks fans. It's also happened in the preseason.
Teague has also said that the next step for his improvement was moving without the ball and working off the ball when paired with Dennis (article from start of training camp).

I'd never even heard of the Atlanta Hawks before this thread started.

I love when people say stuff as if you can't just look up that they played 189 minutes together. Would have had to watch a lot of Hawks games.

yeah, I didn't think so. Looking up the number of minutes played together is easy. The results on the court of them playing together is what matters - was it successful or notth
You responded as if Coach Bud said something new and earth shattering as if he hadn't done it previously.

Hawks DS played with more than Teague:

Horford
Korver
Scott
Bazemore
Millsap
Antic
Carroll
Thabo
Mack
Brand (LOL)
Muscala

He played an absolutely inconsequential amount of minutes with Teague. For what it's worth, they were a net negative when they were on the court together. Not surprising, because DS was a negative for the team on the year.

[emunney]

But what did Bud say on the radio about the Mack/Schroeder combo?

[jayu70]

I'm not sure why this is difficult. Teague is the starter, Dennis is the backup. When Teague leaves, Dennis comes in - So there time on the court together will be limited.
All I said was Coach Bud said expect to see them play more together...Emu mentioned something about weird lineups etc etc...I said it had already occurred last season and also this preseason and it wasn't some earth shattering comment by the Coach because DS 'mouthed' off.

After Thabo's injury that's when the 2 PG lineup was used in spots. Bazemore became the backup SF which left the Hawks thin at SG. Was it perfect no - I would think it's something they've worked on in training camp and like I mentioned previously Teague referenced playing more off ball with Dennis at point (way before the Dennis article).

Mack is 3rd string, why would Coach mention him especially since the question asked by the radio guy 'was will we see more of the Jeff/Dennis combo."

[jayu70]

I responded as if it was a nonsensical, doomed, disadvantageous lineup and basically the kiss of death for Schroeder's time in Atlanta, all of which is true. 189 minutes is for all intents and purposes nothing. Jabari Parker played 40 fewer minutes with his backup and he only played in 25 games. They barely played more together than Bayless and Ennis. Nobody around here's touting that Death Star. "Clearly you didn't watch the Bucks if you don't know about those killer Jerryd Bayless and Tyler Ennis backcourts."

or maybe it's Teague's kiss of death
You are trying to correlate Dennis' starter remarks with Bud saying they'll play MORE together.
Past results of the pairing does not equate to future results. I think we see that pairing along with Millsap, Horford and Splitter as one like combination which was already done in preseason.

[emunney]

Sure, maybe.

[Rockmaninoff]

I didn't like the way he played with Giannis in the Rising Stars game. Selfish passer, seems like a prick. No thanks.

[No-Man]

I see there is still a group of posters circle jerking over Marcus Smart.

Smart would be perfect for this team, imagine in 5 years, Smart-Vaughn-Middleton-Parker-Giannis

[emunney]

I like Marcus Smart. It's kind of not worth talking about trading for him as there's no kind of quantity-based package that's going to get him. If he gets moved, it's going to be as a part of a package for an established star. He's not available for the kind of offer we'd be able to propose.

[Badgerlander]

I just don't think either Bill has much left in the tank

[ReddRum]

I'm very confident Kidd has his man in MCW.

Agreed. Lets give MCW a shot before we put his head on the chopping block. He has barely had time to gel with the team, and still has a ton of upside. He is going to have a great year.