The Wizards big man situation is an embarrassment

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Humphries with 5 3s and Nene played well too. Gortat also posted a double double in 28 minutes.

Big men bounced back. But in fairness, they had 4 days game rest and practices; while the Magic were on game two of back-to-back games.

[bsilver]

A "told you so" day for Humphries defenders

Only the first game, but looking at the D League openers:
Perry Jones was horrific.
Robert Upshaw was mediocre.
Big games for Walter Tavares and Jordan Mickey. Unfortunately both under contract.

Tavares could be the next Rudy Gobert. Was disappointed we didn't do anything to get him. Atlanta picked him at #43 and we picked Jordan Clarkson at #46.

[closg00]

Humphries with 5 3s and Nene played well too. Gortat also posted a double double in 28 minutes.

Big men bounced back, but in fairness, they had 4 days game rest and practices; while the Magic were on game two of back-to-back games.

Right, we look like a different team when playing b2b, we have a brutal schedule coming-up.
The luke-warm feelings for Hump is justified, when his shot isn't falling, he is what he is, a back-up or 3rd PF/C.

[nate33]

After rewatching the Orlando game this morning, I'm more convinced than ever that Hump is the only choice at starting PF. It has nothing to do with good shooting against Orlando. Hump is WAY better defensively than Gooden or Dudley. Dudley was thoroughly manhandled by Aaron Gordon. It was a joke. Gordon got offensive rebounds like Dudley wasn't even there. Dudley just can't guard full-sized PF's for any length of time. Also, Dudley lacks the size to be much of a help defender in the paint if a teammate gets beat on the perimeter. Hump may not be a shot blocker, but he at least provides some deterrence at the rim. I thought he was pretty solid on his defensive rotations all night.

Again, I'm not saying I love the notion of Humphries as a starter. It's just that he is, without a doubt, the best of our current options. (I don't think Nene has the endurance anymore to start at PF and still handle all of the backup C minutes.)

[dckingsfan]

His DRB% = 20.8 - Decent
His ORtg is the best of the starters
His 3PT% is right there with Beal, .464

Is he a top 30 PF - probably. Is he a top 15? No.

But then let's look at the other positions. Is Wall a top 5, maybe? Beal, top 10, maybe? Porter, top 30, maybe? Gortat, top 10?

So it is both forward positions that need to be upgraded - Porter will probably do it on his own. Remember, we have EG as our GM, we are LUCKY to have what we have.

[nuposse04]

I think Dudley will get better over time so I do believe his defense may be serviceable eventually, right now it is still rather lacking, but the important part of this offensive outburst from Hump should be the mental gains he acquires. He is a good enough catch and shooter to take 5 perimeter shots a game. If he is open, he should shoot. I doubt he continues to be a 47% 3pt shooter but high 30s is perfectly fine. If he continues to make defenses pay by trusting his shot, I do suspect the Wall-Gortat combo in PnR will really get going.

[dckingsfan]

Given the frailty of Dudley/Gooden - I hope together they can be the backup PF.

[AFM]

Dudley and Neal both need a Bethsda Sport and Health membership. Fukking embarrassing to be a professional athlete and not be in top shape. How am I more jacked than the Washington Wizard's PF

[J-Ves]

His DRB% = 20.8 - Decent
His ORtg is the best of the starters
His 3PT% is right there with Beal, .464

Is he a top 30 PF - probably. Is he a top 15? No.

But then let's look at the other positions. Is Wall a top 5, maybe? Beal, top 10, maybe? Porter, top 30, maybe? Gortat, top 10?

So it is both forward positions that need to be upgraded - Porter will probably do it on his own. Remember, we have EG as our GM, we are LUCKY to have what we have.

Right now Wall is not playing up to his top 5 PG ability, not even close. And Gortat has been quite bad to start the year. I expect both those guys to improve as the season moves along. Beal, Porter, and Hump have all exceeded expectations to some extent so far. The bench is a mixed bag with some truly bad players, but it seems there's just enough there to make a decent 9 man rotation. I think right now the key to this team is keeping TOs to a dull roar.


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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Humphries with 5 3s and Nene played well too. Gortat also posted a double double in 28 minutes.

Big men bounced back, but in fairness, they had 4 days game rest and practices; while the Magic were on game two of back-to-back games.

Right, we look like a different team when playing b2b, we have a brutal schedule coming-up.
The luke-warm feelings for Hump is justified, when his shot isn't falling, he is what he is, a back-up or 3rd PF/C.

You no like hump...

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

After rewatching the Orlando game this morning, I'm more convinced than ever that Hump is the only choice at starting PF. It has nothing to do with good shooting against Orlando. Hump is WAY better defensively than Gooden or Dudley. Dudley was thoroughly manhandled by Aaron Gordon. It was a joke. Gordon got offensive rebounds like Dudley wasn't even there. Dudley just can't guard full-sized PF's for any length of time. Also, Dudley lacks the size to be much of a help defender in the paint if a teammate gets beat on the perimeter. Hump may not be a shot blocker, but he at least provides some deterrence at the rim. I thought he was pretty solid on his defensive rotations all night.

Again, I'm not saying I love the notion of Humphries as a starter. It's just that he is, without a doubt, the best of our current options. (I don't think Nene has the endurance anymore to start at PF and still handle all of the backup C minutes.)

You REALLY like hump...

After reading these past two posts I'm speechless.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Dudley and Neal both need a Bethsda Sport and Health membership. Fukking embarrassing to be a professional athlete and not be in top shape. How am I more jacked than the Washington Wizard's PF

If I had their cheddar and thinking back to how I was at age 20 something...

Let's just say I would have been putting in work in bedroom or hotel. Clubs, strip clubs, living LARD err large...

AFM, my theory is athletes don't gotta be fit. They ballers. There are relatively fat folks who can destroy people on the basketball court--provided cardio doesn't get put to the test.

Other thing I know is athletes suffer lots of injuries where NON WEIGHT BEARING is the key to healing. Getting fat is HEALTHY for hibernation if you're a bear. The body needs rest from strenuous training. But age and hereditary factors kick in the fat gene.

I'm really heavy for 5'8" but I ran in the ocean today. Like a power walk but faster in chest high water--with the tide rising. And I swam. And this was hours after taking down equipment after church.

I'm 54 and some might consider me obese. Man boobs and love handles today. But I met one guy who'd lost 75 pounds and another who was a college lineman at 310 as a frosh but now is 6' 175 pounds. First guy claimed to walk 21 miles a day (I call BS, but what do I know?). Other guy was a "dancer".

AFM, I'm glad you're fit. To me all the NBA players have long skinny limbs. Blair last year was no more than 18-20% body fat. Wes Unseld was fatter at the end of his career IIRC but he was STILL a bad boy on the court.

[dckingsfan]

His DRB% = 20.8 - Decent
His ORtg is the best of the starters
His 3PT% is right there with Beal, .464

Is he a top 30 PF - probably. Is he a top 15? No.

But then let's look at the other positions. Is Wall a top 5, maybe? Beal, top 10, maybe? Porter, top 30, maybe? Gortat, top 10?

So it is both forward positions that need to be upgraded - Porter will probably do it on his own. Remember, we have EG as our GM, we are LUCKY to have what we have.

Right now Wall is not playing up to his top 5 PG ability, not even close. And Gortat has been quite bad to start the year. I expect both those guys to improve as the season moves along. Beal, Porter, and Hump have all exceeded expectations to some extent so far. The bench is a mixed bag with some truly bad players, but it seems there's just enough there to make a decent 9 man rotation. I think right now the key to this team is keeping TOs to a dull roar.

I guess that makes my point... Humphries has been playing to his ability which is somewhere in the top 30 of PFs. He hasn't been the problem - in fact he has basically won one of our games.

The real problem has been Wall/Gortat. Wall's AST% is down, his TO% is up, is TS% is down and his D has been worse this year. I think those have led to Gortat's problems - or maybe it is the other way around - when Gortat's D isn't up to snuff - they don't run as effectively.

Nene has been a pleasant surprise off the bench with his rebounding and passing.

So, other than Gooden and Dudley not being capable backups (hello Ernie!) at the PF, I think the real problem with the FC is Gortat.

[Ruzious]

After rewatching the Orlando game this morning, I'm more convinced than ever that Hump is the only choice at starting PF. It has nothing to do with good shooting against Orlando. Hump is WAY better defensively than Gooden or Dudley. Dudley was thoroughly manhandled by Aaron Gordon. It was a joke. Gordon got offensive rebounds like Dudley wasn't even there. Dudley just can't guard full-sized PF's for any length of time. Also, Dudley lacks the size to be much of a help defender in the paint if a teammate gets beat on the perimeter. Hump may not be a shot blocker, but he at least provides some deterrence at the rim. I thought he was pretty solid on his defensive rotations all night.

Again, I'm not saying I love the notion of Humphries as a starter. It's just that he is, without a doubt, the best of our current options. (I don't think Nene has the endurance anymore to start at PF and still handle all of the backup C minutes.)

You REALLY like hump...

After reading these past two posts I'm speechless.

It's funny how people can read the same thing and come up with completely different views of what the writer said. The way I read it was - He doesn't like the idea of starting Humphries, but he's - unfortunately - the best we got.

[Dat2U]

If Hump is going to become a volume 3pt shooter then there's hope that he may be a passable option offensively... but he's gotta let that shot fly whenever he's open. 8 3s in a game is definitely a good sign. The fact he made 5 of them is pure gravy. IMO, it's not so much Hump hitting the shot, it's defenses realizing he's a threat and attempting to take the threat away because that'll open up the Gortat P&R and driving lanes for our guards.

[Ruzious]

Dudley and Neal both need a Bethsda Sport and Health membership. Fukking embarrassing to be a professional athlete and not be in top shape. How am I more jacked than the Washington Wizard's PF

If I had their cheddar and thinking back to how I was at age 20 something...

Let's just say I would have been putting in work in bedroom or hotel. Clubs, strip clubs, living LARD err large...

AFM, my theory is athletes don't gotta be fit. They ballers. There are relatively fat folks who can destroy people on the basketball court--provided cardio doesn't get put to the test.

Other thing I know is athletes suffer lots of injuries where NON WEIGHT BEARING is the key to healing. Getting fat is HEALTHY for hibernation if you're a bear. The body needs rest from strenuous training. But age and hereditary factors kick in the fat gene.

I'm really heavy for 5'8" but I ran in the ocean today. Like a power walk but faster in chest high water--with the tide rising. And I swam. And this was hours after taking down equipment after church.

I'm 54 and some might consider me obese. Man boobs and love handles today. But I met one guy who'd lost 75 pounds and another who was a college lineman at 310 as a frosh but now is 6' 175 pounds. First guy claimed to walk 21 miles a day (I call BS, but what do I know?). Other guy was a "dancer".

AFM, I'm glad you're fit. To me all the NBA players have long skinny limbs. Blair last year was no more than 18-20% body fat. Wes Unseld was fatter at the end of his career IIRC but he was STILL a bad boy on the court.

Unseld wasn't fat - he was built like a brick building. Besides, this a different era. Look at video of games from the late 70's, and you'll see the games were at a far slower pace. Guys like Hop Plate Williams, Kevin Duckworth, Ike Austin, and even Ledell Eakles all played for the Bullets. They wouldn't stand a chance in today's NBA at their level of conditioning.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Ruz, I saw live fat jiggle when he threw the outlet pass.

Older Wes was higher body fat than last year Blair IMO.


"Trade down and draft Demarcus Cousins plus a pick" 2010
"Kirk Cousins will be a starting QB" (even over Griffin) 2012
Dejuan Blair is as good as ever. 2015

[Ruzious]

Ruz, I saw live fat jiggle when he threw the outlet pass.

Older Wes was higher body fat than last year Blair IMO.


"Trade down and draft Demarcus Cousins plus a pick" 2010
"Kirk Cousins will be a starting QB" (even over Griffin) 2012
Dejuan Blair is as good as ever. 2015

Even if that was true - and it's not - there's a completely different level of conditioning needed to play in today's NBA vs the late 70's.

Btw, if you're going to brag about your Kirk Cousins prediction, weren't you the guy saying it was a big mistake to pick Cousins in the 4th round?

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

After rewatching the Orlando game this morning, I'm more convinced than ever that Hump is the only choice at starting PF. It has nothing to do with good shooting against Orlando. Hump is WAY better defensively than Gooden or Dudley. Dudley was thoroughly manhandled by Aaron Gordon. It was a joke. Gordon got offensive rebounds like Dudley wasn't even there. Dudley just can't guard full-sized PF's for any length of time. Also, Dudley lacks the size to be much of a help defender in the paint if a teammate gets beat on the perimeter. Hump may not be a shot blocker, but he at least provides some deterrence at the rim. I thought he was pretty solid on his defensive rotations all night.

Again, I'm not saying I love the notion of Humphries as a starter. It's just that he is, without a doubt, the best of our current options. (I don't think Nene has the endurance anymore to start at PF and still handle all of the backup C minutes.)

You REALLY like hump...

After reading these past two posts I'm speechless.

It's funny how people can read the same thing and come up with completely different views of what the writer said. The way I read it was - He doesn't like the idea of starting Humphries, but he's - unfortunately - the best we got.

That's what makes Realgm and other discussion forums, and all social media interesting.

I got arrested last year for terroristic threatening and I did not threaten anyone. But I certainly did (UNINTENTIONALLY) scare the hell out of some people.

Their versions in police reports appeared to be rehearsed but one in particular came up with VERY SPECIFIC threatening statements she said I made. What a nightmare! (And then my dad died ...)

Ruzious, one thing I did learn is people see things differently. I rationalized the incident to see that several justified their agenda by lying. One might have really thought their version was accurate. I myself was pretty sleep deprived and angry at one son; but I VERY CLEARLY know who lied about what. The beauty of it all was the police seemed to know exactly what did and did not happen and in the end I'm okay and better.

Some like Humphries, some don't. Same with me.

I like Charles Barkley's 50-50 rule and find comfort in accepting there's going to be dissenting views on everything.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Ruz, I saw live fat jiggle when he threw the outlet pass.

Older Wes was higher body fat than last year Blair IMO.


"Trade down and draft Demarcus Cousins plus a pick" 2010
"Kirk Cousins will be a starting QB" (even over Griffin) 2012
Dejuan Blair is as good as ever. 2015

Even if that was true - and it's not - there's a completely different level of conditioning needed to play in today's NBA vs the late 70's.

Btw, if you're going to brag about your Kirk Cousins prediction, weren't you the guy saying it was a big mistake to pick Cousins in the 4th round?

A "fat bastard" can play well if the coach puts him in one play to make a strategic, hard foul. A guy with turrible cardio can make one or two plays and then roll like a bowling ball to the bench. My answer is you're assuming conditioning factors in and I'm saying play Blair a minute just for good energy.

I thought drafting Cousins AFTER picking Griffin 1st was a mistake because I THOUGHT it would set up competition that might ruin Griffin's confidence. I thought COUSINS WAS A STARTING QB so why draft him after trading the franchise to get WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE the starting the next 10 years. So to answer your question you don't understand my thoughts.

I'm not surprised at Cousins' success and this worked out just like I said it would and half the darn board give me the milellie111 treatment and the other half, yourself included, HATE TO ADMIT I was right.

I was having some esteem issues or maybe I went Ronda Rousey prideful ignorant (but man she got her ass handed to her by a better fighter that night!) when I brought this stuff up. But what people MIGHT NOT CONSIDER is Rousey was hyping the fight. I LIKE THAT THE BOARD IS GETTING BETTER! I also felt vindicated and the need to remind some folks.

That is all.