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[bwgood77]

Philly has tanked and had top picks for years now, but they still cannot turn the corner. It reminds me of the Clippers of a decade ago. All those picks, but they missed on lots of them and then never had the team structure to develop the player they had. You have to develop a winning culture in your rebuilding process.

Noel is more effective at the center too, and of course Okafor is too. They don't have shooting. They really need Saric which would give them at least a decent frontcourt rotation (if he pans out) and to nail the pick this year (for their sake, hope to get Simmons) and then have either Wroten, Marshall, Canaan or McConnell become a decent starting pg. That lineup might be somewhat formidable.

[jcsunsfan]

There's the Marcus I remember.

The honeymoon is over. Who knew?

Over indeed

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Marcus Morris is now shooting 27% from the three for the year, and 38% overall. Yikes. But that is the problem with the Morris Brothers. I would like to buy them for what they are worth and sell them for what they think they are worth.

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[bwgood77]

The honeymoon is over. Who knew?

Over indeed

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Marcus Morris is now shooting 27% from the three for the year, and 38% overall. Yikes. But that is the problem with the Morris Brothers. I would like to buy them for what they are worth and sell them for what they think they are worth.

Pistons fans now have a thread asking if Stanley Johnson should start.

I know SJ hasn't earned it (though he's been playing better of late), but now that Morris isn't really playing good either, I feel we might as well be getting our rookie experience instead.

I also think he would be a little better fit with regards to our ball movement issue. He is ball hogging too, but he's usually at least moving with the ball when he has it, creating some kind of action that can lead to ball movement. As opposed to Morris, who just gets it in the post and doesn't budge until a contested midrange shot has been taken.

I've thought this since the 3rd game. Just look at the ball movement when Morris is on the floor compared to when Johnson is: it's literally night and day. Every time Morris gets the ball, it's instant iso to a mid range fadeaway. Hell, there was a point against the Lakers where instead of taking it in for an easy layup when the Pistons had numbers in transition, he stepped back into a fadeaway miss. Sure, Johnson is struggling with his shot, but I think (and many of us think) it's because he's not used to coming off the bench and being an instant spark. Morris however has the type of game that would be perfect as a 6th man in this offense (until Jennings comes back of course). I'd much rather sacrifice a small dip in scoring for a large increase in ball movement and passing, and I believe it's time to start Stanley.

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[kennydorglas]

Over indeed

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Marcus Morris is now shooting 27% from the three for the year, and 38% overall. Yikes. But that is the problem with the Morris Brothers. I would like to buy them for what they are worth and sell them for what they think they are worth.

Pistons fans now have a thread asking if Stanley Johnson should start.

I know SJ hasn't earned it (though he's been playing better of late), but now that Morris isn't really playing good either, I feel we might as well be getting our rookie experience instead.

I also think he would be a little better fit with regards to our ball movement issue. He is ball hogging too, but he's usually at least moving with the ball when he has it, creating some kind of action that can lead to ball movement. As opposed to Morris, who just gets it in the post and doesn't budge until a contested midrange shot has been taken.

I've thought this since the 3rd game. Just look at the ball movement when Morris is on the floor compared to when Johnson is: it's literally night and day. Every time Morris gets the ball, it's instant iso to a mid range fadeaway. Hell, there was a point against the Lakers where instead of taking it in for an easy layup when the Pistons had numbers in transition, he stepped back into a fadeaway miss. Sure, Johnson is struggling with his shot, but I think (and many of us think) it's because he's not used to coming off the bench and being an instant spark. Morris however has the type of game that would be perfect as a 6th man in this offense (until Jennings comes back of course). I'd much rather sacrifice a small dip in scoring for a large increase in ball movement and passing, and I believe it's time to start Stanley.

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Giving playing time for Mook or give a chance for your stud rookie.
I think it's a deja vu.

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Kid's a beast.

[Mulhollanddrive]

If NO season is over in the next 2 weeks, that means to me (barring any wildcard):

Yes - GSW, OKC, Spurs, Clippers, Houston
No - Lakers, Sacramento, NO, Portland, Denver, Minnesota

3 of 4 make it - Memphis, Dallas, Phoenix, Utah

Good odds and none of our competitors scare me.

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Heat fans on Gerald Green

So many players played bad tonight.

But every time Gerald Green was on the floor we played bad.

Now that I think about it, I rather have traded Gerald Green, he is just too trigger happy. And doesn't make defensive impact.

Ah sounds so familiar.

[spanishninja]

If NO season is over in the next 2 weeks, that means to me (barring any wildcard):

Yes - GSW, OKC, Spurs, Clippers, Houston
No - Lakers, Sacramento, NO, Portland, Denver, Minnesota

3 of 4 make it - Memphis, Dallas, Phoenix, Utah

Good odds and none of our competitors scare me.

Are you so sure about Houston? That team is a disaster right now, and with the way the team is set up, there is no real solution except make Harden carry the load even more. I say you add Houston to the list of four and have 4 of 5 make it.

[bwgood77]

If NO season is over in the next 2 weeks, that means to me (barring any wildcard):

Yes - GSW, OKC, Spurs, Clippers, Houston
No - Lakers, Sacramento, NO, Portland, Denver, Minnesota

3 of 4 make it - Memphis, Dallas, Phoenix, Utah

Good odds and none of our competitors scare me.

Are you so sure about Houston? That team is a disaster right now, and with the way the team is set up, there is no real solution except make Harden carry the load even more. I say you add Houston to the list of four and have 4 of 5 make it.

Yeah, I see people on the GB saying they have too much talent not to make it, but the only real guy that is usually THAT talented is Harden, and he is playing like dog poop. People were so high on Harden last year because they thought he carried a bunch of role players to the 2 seed. If he is playing like crap, it's not like they have another guy who can step up for them. Dwight is playing fairly well but he's on the downside of his career and isn't terribly reliable.

I just can't believe NO is so bad though. You'd think guys like Jrue, Gordon, and Anderson are better than most of Houston's role players, and AD is a huge impact player, but they are getting beat bad night after night. I saw AD only played 6 minutes tonight so not sure what that is about.

But Denver and Dallas are the surprising teams right now.

Don't know what's wrong with the Bucks either...they have played the easiest schedule and are below 500 and got beat by 30 tonight by the Wizards, who haven't been playing particularly well.

And Porzingis...wow, 29 and 11 tonight, hitting a couple of treys.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Harden, Lawson, Beverley, Ariza are each shooting around 35% (or close to it) FG.

They've got the same problem we had last year and wouldn't be surprised if they moved Lawson.

They'll figure it out in the end to win enough games (barring injury).

[DRK]

Houston needs a new coach. Thibs would be a good choice. They need to fix that defence first and foremost. Thibs coaching a team with Dwight Howards as their defensive anchor would be amazing. And Harden has shown he can be a great defender when he puts his mind to it.

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I'm convinced that when teams play the Warriors in Oracle, they just leave their brains behind back at home.

The Warriors mind f**k so many teams man. I honestly think their the best team of this generation. I legit think they could even be better than the Kobe-Shaq Laker teams. Shaq would be exhausted 3 mins into each game after running so much.

[MrMiyagi]

I'm convinced that when teams play the Warriors in Oracle, they just leave their brains behind back at home.

The Warriors mind f**k so many teams man. I honestly think their the best team of this generation. I legit think they could even be better than the Kobe-Shaq Laker teams. Shaq would be exhausted 3 mins into each game after running so much.

Golden State is winning by an average margin of 16 points.... During their best winning streaks, the 95-96 Bulls average margin of victory was 17 points (13 points for the season) and the 85-86 Celtics was 14 (10 for the season)..... If they keep this up and repeat, they might be the best team of all-time.

[MrMiyagi]

Also, fun fact: There are 4 teams in the NBA with ranked in the top 10 in Offensive and Defensive rating this season: Golden State, San Antonio, Cleveland and your Phoenix Suns. It's early and we've played some **** teams, but it's still a fun fact.

Plus, wouldn't it be awesome if Friday November 27th, the Golden State Warriors are 16-0 and the Suns roll into Oracle Arena and hand them their first loss of the season? They have Clippers at home and then Bulls in Chicago Thursday/Friday this week, but man, how cool would that be?

Us handing Golden State their first loss would then lead to the season storyline of Suns-Warriors, after they go on an eight game winning streak meeting us in Phoenix for a "revenge" match, and ultimately leading to a 2-2 Suns-Warriors season series, which, of course would then culminate in a Suns-Warriors Western Conference Finals that goes 7 games.

A man can dream, right?

[Saberestar]

Houston needs a new coach. Thibs would be a good choice. They need to fix that defence first and foremost. Thibs coaching a team with Dwight Howards as their defensive anchor would be amazing. And Harden has shown he can be a great defender when he puts his mind to it.

I think that McHale is not a great coach, probably a decent one at best, but even with that I think their biggest problem is Lawson. Last year that team was in the WCF and McHale was there with a similar team....minus Lawson. He has changed the structure of the team and has played horrible basketball. He needs to come off the bench ASAP because Beberly is a better fit next to Harden and way better defensively.

If McHale continues to play Lawson big time minutes he probably will be fired in less than a month.

[Saberestar]

Davis left Tuesday's game with a left shoulder injury and will not return. We're considering him questionable for the Pelicans' game Wednesday. No specifics regarding the injury have been released yet.

We play against them this Sunday...

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

NO sucking this bad should make the draft even crazier. They'll add the #2 guy next to AD, one way or another. The Celtics could be picking up as many as four picks in the first round, including a potential #1, as well as pick that should be ours....... The Sixers will also have either three or four picks. Can these teams really bring in THAT many first rounders at once? It would be the perfect time for SAC to move Boogie, IMO. Celts are already are good team, but they're about to get freaky talented. Meanwhile, we'll have the 29th and 20th-ish picks. Let's hope McD can pull a rabbit out of one of those hats!

[bwgood77]

I'm convinced that when teams play the Warriors in Oracle, they just leave their brains behind back at home.

The Warriors mind f**k so many teams man. I honestly think their the best team of this generation. I legit think they could even be better than the Kobe-Shaq Laker teams. Shaq would be exhausted 3 mins into each game after running so much.

Golden State is winning by an average margin of 16 points.... During their best winning streaks, the 95-96 Bulls average margin of victory was 17 points (13 points for the season) and the 85-86 Celtics was 14 (10 for the season)..... If they keep this up and repeat, they might be the best team of all-time.

It would be interesting to see them play that Bulls team. Jordan guarding Curry, Pippen possibly on Klay, Rodman on Dray.

The thing is, if GS gets hot from 3 you can't catch up. Jordan could hit his fade away 2s all day.

I think they are easily better than the Lakers who really only had one dominant year. It would have been interesting seeing teams that played their same kind of game though, like the Kinds of 2001-2004 or the Suns of 2005-2007.

[bwgood77]

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Rockets fire McHale.