Ben Simmons

Post #541 » by **Undefeated** » Thu Dec 3, 2015 3:37 am

reanimator wrote:
Dame Lizard wrote: 15/20 FG (including 3/6 jump shots

His shot chart shows all in the paint unless I'm missing something?

Did you watch this game against North Florida? I know I wouldn't watch a non tournament team vs a low major.

This.

These type of performances should be expected from a consensus #1 pick against a non tourney team. Impressive numbers, but I don't know how anyone can get excited over it.

Dame Lizard · Post #542 » by **Dame Lizard** » Thu Dec 3, 2015 4:09 am

reanimator wrote:
Dame Lizard wrote: 15/20 FG (including 3/6 jump shots

His shot chart shows all in the paint unless I'm missing something?

Did you watch this game against North Florida? I know I wouldn't watch a non tournament team vs a low major.

Goes to show you shouldn't just trust what others say! That 3/6 reference came from what somebody confidently said on the General Board.

I've looked at his shot chart and agree with you. My bad!

splendidham · Post #543 » by **splendidham** » Thu Dec 3, 2015 4:15 am

Funnily enough, North Florida made the tournament last year but go ahead guys. He could have scored 50 and I'm sure you'd have something negative to say

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Post #544 » by **Undefeated** » Thu Dec 3, 2015 4:20 am

I don't think anyone considers the First Four to really be part of March Madness.

Illmatic12 · Post #545 » by **Illmatic12** » Thu Dec 3, 2015 4:39 am

Dame Lizard wrote:
reanimator wrote:
Dame Lizard wrote: 15/20 FG (including 3/6 jump shots

His shot chart shows all in the paint unless I'm missing something?

Did you watch this game against North Florida? I know I wouldn't watch a non tournament team vs a low major.

Goes to show you shouldn't just trust what others say! That 3/6 reference came from what somebody confidently said on the General Board.

I've looked at his shot chart and agree with you. My bad!

For reference:

So yeah Ben was the tallest guy on the court. And definitely played how he was supposed to do against an undersized opponent, you have to like the aggression in the paint.

Still nothing in terms of the jumpshot, maybe's he's waiting to surprise us

ItsThatEasy · Post #546 » by **ItsThatEasy** » Thu Dec 3, 2015 5:13 am

43 points by a Freshman against a D-1 opponent is impressive regardless of who they played.

The kid has major flaws but all this focus on those flaws is just asinine right now.

cellar-door · Post #547 » by **cellar-door** » Thu Dec 3, 2015 5:16 am

Dame Lizard wrote:
reanimator wrote:
Dame Lizard wrote: 15/20 FG (including 3/6 jump shots

His shot chart shows all in the paint unless I'm missing something?

Did you watch this game against North Florida? I know I wouldn't watch a non tournament team vs a low major.

Goes to show you shouldn't just trust what others say! That 3/6 reference came from what somebody confidently said on the General Board.

I've looked at his shot chart and agree with you. My bad!

I said it, they were in close but 6 of those were classified as jumpshots.

deflated · Post #548 » by **deflated** » Thu Dec 3, 2015 5:19 am

Illmatic12 wrote:So yeah Ben was the tallest guy on the court. And definitely played how he was supposed to do against an undersized opponent, you have to like the aggression in the paint.

This was my takeaway from the game. Simmons was done with losing, looks like he made a decision that it was going in the basket or he was getting to the line every time he touched the ball in the 2nd half. Nice to see that fire.

Dr Positivity · Post #549 » by **Dr Positivity** » Thu Dec 3, 2015 6:02 am

He had one of the best college games of the modern era, don't care who it was against

crazy_me_87 · Post #550 » by **crazy_me_87** » Thu Dec 3, 2015 8:12 am

Dr Positivity wrote:He had one of the best college games of the modern era, don't care who it was against

This

The whole "strenght of schedule" thing is overblown by people who try to bring Ben down.
Other Freshman have faced weak Teams before Ben.. shocking right? He is not the only one.

43/14/7/3/5 is one of the craziest college statlines in recent memory.Period.

He went out after the last few games where people questioned his scoring and proved tonight he can dominate the scoring departement. I love his ability to take critisim and respond to it on the court. That is a trait of the Greatest Players to ever Play.

Jables · Post #551 » by **Jables** » Thu Dec 3, 2015 8:39 am

Undefeated wrote:
reanimator wrote:
Dame Lizard wrote: 15/20 FG (including 3/6 jump shots

His shot chart shows all in the paint unless I'm missing something?

Did you watch this game against North Florida? I know I wouldn't watch a non tournament team vs a low major.

This.

These type of performances should be expected from a consensus #1 pick against a non tourney team. Impressive numbers, but I don't know how anyone can get excited over it.

43 from 15/20, 14 rebounds, 7 assists, 5 steals, and 3 blocks should be expected all the time? Hell, it makes me excited. Damn you'd be a hard coach to please. What was the last #1 pick that could produce games like that, and it would be no big deal?

splendidham · Post #552 » by **splendidham** » Thu Dec 3, 2015 9:30 am

Jables wrote:
Undefeated wrote:
reanimator wrote:
His shot chart shows all in the paint unless I'm missing something?

Did you watch this game against North Florida? I know I wouldn't watch a non tournament team vs a low major.

This.

These type of performances should be expected from a consensus #1 pick against a non tourney team. Impressive numbers, but I don't know how anyone can get excited over it.

43 from 15/20, 14 rebounds, 7 assists, 5 steals, and 3 blocks should be expected all the time? Hell, it makes me excited. Damn you'd be a hard coach to please. What was the last #1 pick that could produce games like that, and it would be no big deal?

Was going to say the same thing more or less. There have been plenty of consensus number 1 picks , not to mention freshman who never put up numbers like that before.

While Ben has his flaws, jump shooting being one of them, I personally don't see it as something that can't be fixed. I'm sure he works tirelessly on it but being the kind of player Ben is, unselfish, team orientated, why would he go out and work on it in-game? So he can please all the know it alls on realgm? He plays in a jump shooting team, he's surrounded by guys who's strengths are their jump shooting. So why hoist up jump shots when that isn't your role. He's a consummate team player who isn't going to selfishly toss up shots so he can boost his stock.

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Spens1 · Post #553 » by **Spens1** » Thu Dec 3, 2015 11:20 am

as an aussie i can't help but be hyped

Thon Maker + Simmons + the talent we have coming through, not only that guys like Delly and Patty Mills

we're going to be a force, i really hope the AIS can keep them coming

reanimator · Post #554 » by **reanimator** » Thu Dec 3, 2015 2:20 pm

Jables wrote:
Undefeated wrote:
reanimator wrote:
His shot chart shows all in the paint unless I'm missing something?

Did you watch this game against North Florida? I know I wouldn't watch a non tournament team vs a low major.

This.

These type of performances should be expected from a consensus #1 pick against a non tourney team. Impressive numbers, but I don't know how anyone can get excited over it.

What was the last #1 pick that could produce games like that, and it would be no big deal?

https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/73345/gamelog

crazy_me_87 · Post #555 » by **crazy_me_87** » Thu Dec 3, 2015 3:09 pm

reanimator wrote:
Jables wrote:
Undefeated wrote:
This.

These type of performances should be expected from a consensus #1 pick against a non tourney team. Impressive numbers, but I don't know how anyone can get excited over it.

What was the last #1 pick that could produce games like that, and it would be no big deal?

https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/73345/gamelog

And on pure Potential Beasley was seen as clear Hof Level Prospect. He has crazy talent but his head was never straight. Ben's Head seems to be just in the right place.. beeing a Teamplayer but also a leader and a tireless worker.

No-Man · Post #556 » by **No-Man** » Thu Dec 3, 2015 3:17 pm

Beasley was really flawed as well and not only because of his head and off the floor issues.

reanimator · Post #557 » by **reanimator** » Thu Dec 3, 2015 3:44 pm

College production is not 1:1 with NBA success thus the reason people are discussing Ben's flaws.

No one is saying what he is doing isn't impressive or that he won't be good in the NBA but HOW good in the NBA. Some seem to think he is a generational prospect and toss names like Lebron and Grant Hill freely thus the "nitpicking."

donato · Post #558 » by **donato** » Thu Dec 3, 2015 3:53 pm

reanimator wrote:Some seem to think he is a generational prospect and toss names like Lebron and Grant Hill...

As he should be. Did you watch Grant Hill in college? I did. Simmons seems far more impressive at this stage.

reanimator · Post #559 » by **reanimator** » Thu Dec 3, 2015 4:01 pm

donato wrote:
reanimator wrote:Some seem to think he is a generational prospect and toss names like Lebron and Grant Hill...

As he should be. Did you watch Grant Hill in college? I did. Simmons seems far more impressive at this stage.

You are definitely entitled to that opinion.

Renegade_H · Post #560 » by **Renegade_H** » Thu Dec 3, 2015 4:05 pm

Spens1 wrote:as an aussie i can't help but be hyped

Thon Maker + Simmons + the talent we have coming through, not only that guys like Delly and Patty Mills

we're going to be a force, i really hope the AIS can keep them coming

Paired with Brett Brown... gonna be great, Simmons!