Miami Heat @ Los Angeles Clippers - 1/13 @ 10:30pm EST

goodboy · Post #121 » by **goodboy** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:26 am

Iggie must be taking his random 8-9 pm naps.

Come on, one more hour.

Chalm Down · Post #122 » by **Chalm Down** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:31 am

Bourne85 wrote:
Chalm Down wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Another McBob court sighting.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/JasonLieser/status/687446925289783296[/tweet]

Soon.

Let's pray.

Did we forget Mcbob is terrible? When he does come back he will pass up open shots, and likely step on a pebble and will be injured for another 3-6 weeks

Let me have this.

Post #123 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:37 am

Hassan Whiteside is taped up and dressed like he's going to play. So, he's going to play #Heat

3ballbomber · Post #124 » by **3ballbomber** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:37 am

Hallstar wrote:
3ballbomber wrote:
QUIZ wrote:Ugh, now all we have is injured TJ and Beno to go up against CP3.

Question, is now a good time for high usage Wade or should he put away his ego and let Beno and TJ create instead?

If this was last season before the Dragic trade then i'd be on board w/ it. But in spite of Dragic out we still have far more talent in this team than last season, w/ far more depth. We shouldn't get desperate & opt for the one man show, especially when that player may not even be 100%.

But if you're talking about Wade creating and setting up plays then i'm on board w/ that 100%. He racked up 11 assists vs Jazz? That's the Wade i want to see and let his offense come within the team concept.

Man, I'm sorry, but this is a lie, and it's a lie because he just had 10 assists vs the best team in the league and this board had an issue.

He's the best scorer AND creator on the team but y'all want him to be off ball while creating for others and shooting a high % while being the designated bailout when the clock goes low.

He also needs to do all this while supposedly being valued at damn near the MLE last offseason by some.

The whole concept is ridiculous.

Did he not come into the GSW game banged up and not 100%? i stated clearly, prior to the game, in the game thread that he will focus on setting up teammates and play making for this very reason. And he did exactly that. We aren't criticizing him for that, rather we were criticizing his late game heroics. Don't get it twisted.

It's not unreasonable w/ all the new acquisitions to ask of him to sacrifice and play within a team orientated game....this does not only create and build a team & develop chemistry but it also creates trust and faith in one another......does it not?

Nobody actually made it official that he is the 'designated bailout' guy......Wade simply demands and he gets the green light. Tell me this is a lie and i'll tell you you are delusional.

And nobody wants him off ball and creating simultaneously - that's just silly. He can have the ball all he wants but if majority of those possessions he is team focused we don't give a hoot. We're not asking Wade to change his game altogether just for him to adjust & adapt to having more talent around him. We're also not saying it's all solely on Wade, coach and coaching staff have as much to be guilty of, if not even more.

3ballbomber · Post #125 » by **3ballbomber** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:41 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat/status/687455364032286720[/tweet]
TJ works best off the bench in not only this stage of his development but also is used as a bit of a spark off the bench. Having Beno will allow us to maintain our rotation i guess. And for some reason i feel comfortable w/ Udrih more than i ever have w/ Chalmers.

3ballbomber · Post #126 » by **3ballbomber** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:45 am

Line now down to -3

Liking Miami more and more now :nod:

Post #127 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:45 am

3ballbomber wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat/status/687455364032286720[/tweet]
TJ works best off the bench in not only this stage of his development but also is used as a bit of a spark off the bench. Having Beno will allow us to maintain our rotation i guess. And for some reason i feel comfortable w/ Udrih more than i ever have w/ Chalmers.

I dont like when TJ has to handle too much PG duties. Much prefer him off the ball. Wouldn't mind him starting with Wade. Wade as the primary ball handler. Or TJ with Beno. Dont want to see TJ with Green at the two.

Hallstar · Post #128 » by **Hallstar** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:49 am

3ballbomber wrote:
Hallstar wrote:
3ballbomber wrote:If this was last season before the Dragic trade then i'd be on board w/ it. But in spite of Dragic out we still have far more talent in this team than last season, w/ far more depth. We shouldn't get desperate & opt for the one man show, especially when that player may not even be 100%.

But if you're talking about Wade creating and setting up plays then i'm on board w/ that 100%. He racked up 11 assists vs Jazz? That's the Wade i want to see and let his offense come within the team concept.

Man, I'm sorry, but this is a lie, and it's a lie because he just had 10 assists vs the best team in the league and this board had an issue.

He's the best scorer AND creator on the team but y'all want him to be off ball while creating for others and shooting a high % while being the designated bailout when the clock goes low.

He also needs to do all this while supposedly being valued at damn near the MLE last offseason by some.

The whole concept is ridiculous.

Did he not come into the GSW game banged up and not 100%? i stated clearly, prior to the game, in the game thread that he will focus on setting up teammates and play making for this very reason. And he did exactly that. We aren't criticizing him for that, rather we were criticizing his late game heroics. Don't get it twisted.

It's not unreasonable w/ all the new acquisitions to ask of him to sacrifice and play within a team orientated game....this does not only create and build a team & develop chemistry but it also creates trust and faith in one another......does it not?

Nobody actually made it official that he is the 'designated bailout' guy......Wade simply demands and he gets the green light. Tell me this is a lie and i'll tell you you are delusional.

And nobody wants him off ball and creating simultaneously - that's just silly. He can have the ball all he wants but if majority of those possessions he is team focused we don't give a hoot. We're not asking Wade to change his game altogether just for him to adjust & adapt to having more talent around him. We're also not saying it's all solely on Wade, coach and coaching staff have as much to be guilty of, if not even more.

With him running the offense we scored 24 pts in 9 mins, what more could be expected? Passing just to pass is foolish, at some point, somebody has to attempt to put the ball has to go in the net.

Somehow we don't get those 24 sec violations with him on the floor.

An assist from Wade got it down to 6 with 2:34 to go. After that, he missed one shot, assisted Johnson, got 2fts on the tip in frenzy and had a dunk.....where was this hero ball that prevented us from beating the best team in the league?

People seem to forget we were already down 9 when he came in, he came in to work a miracle not blend in to what clearly was not working.

jereseja · Post #129 » by **jereseja** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:52 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Manny_Navarro/status/687466712464138240[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/687460523370127361[/tweet]

Post #130 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:03 am

Doc said no. Hassan going to dominate in his 20 minutes.

Bourne85 · Post #131 » by **Bourne85** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:05 am

Spo just looks for any excuse to run small ball lol have at it spo.

goodboy · Post #132 » by **goodboy** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:07 am

TJ on Paul should be good. Even though CP will get his, I'm sure that the Clips don't have clear cut scouting report on TJ, so he should take CP by surprise at times.

3ballbomber · Post #133 » by **3ballbomber** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:08 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
3ballbomber wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat/status/687455364032286720[/tweet]
TJ works best off the bench in not only this stage of his development but also is used as a bit of a spark off the bench. Having Beno will allow us to maintain our rotation i guess. And for some reason i feel comfortable w/ Udrih more than i ever have w/ Chalmers.

I dont like when TJ has to handle too much PG duties. Much prefer him off the ball. Wouldn't mind him starting with Wade. Wade as the primary ball handler. Or TJ with Beno. Dont want to see TJ with Green at the two.

Same. We're still developing him in that aspect but he is coming along.

Bourne85 · Post #134 » by **Bourne85** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:09 am

HeatWillRise wrote:TJ on Paul should be good. Even though CP will get his, I'm sure that Clips don't have clear cut scouting report on TJ, so he should take CP by surprise at times.

Overrated scrubs don't get scouting reports on them. Needs to break out like Hassan to get on that level.

Don't hurt me.

rockersdash · Post #135 » by **rockersdash** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:10 am

we tryna losing streak?

goodboy · Post #136 » by **goodboy** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:12 am

Bourne85 wrote:
HeatWillRise wrote:TJ on Paul should be good. Even though CP will get his, I'm sure that Clips don't have clear cut scouting report on TJ, so he should take CP by surprise at times.

Overrated scrubs don't get scouting reports on them. Needs to break out like Hassan to get on that level.

Don't hurt me.

I don't get how he's a scrub though lol. Almost every team we face, opposing fans embark in awe when TJ surprises them. And really no point in calling him a scrub when he's pretty much unknown by everyone aside from us. He does everything asked of him and expected of him on the court.

Scrubs term usually indicates $$$ to his name that under-performance on nightly bases. Adds nothing to the team and goes coast-to-coast to teams around the league. I don't see TJ with any of those qualities.

He's the epitome of low-risk high reward scenario here.

Unlike beasley

3ballbomber · Post #137 » by **3ballbomber** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:12 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat/status/687471677983227905[/tweet]

Looks like small ball w/ Hassan off the bench

3ballbomber · Post #138 » by **3ballbomber** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:14 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat/status/687472140237422593[/tweet]

Post #139 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:14 am

Bourne85 wrote:
HeatWillRise wrote:TJ on Paul should be good. Even though CP will get his, I'm sure that Clips don't have clear cut scouting report on TJ, so he should take CP by surprise at times.

Overrated scrubs don't get scouting reports on them. Needs to break out like Hassan to get on that level.

Don't hurt me.

Bourne85 · Post #140 » by **Bourne85** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:14 am

HeatWillRise wrote:
Bourne85 wrote:
HeatWillRise wrote:TJ on Paul should be good. Even though CP will get his, I'm sure that Clips don't have clear cut scouting report on TJ, so he should take CP by surprise at times.

Overrated scrubs don't get scouting reports on them. Needs to break out like Hassan to get on that level.

Don't hurt me.

I don't get how he's a scrub though lol. Almost every team we face, opposing fans embark in awe when TJ surprises them. And really no point in calling him a scrub when he's pretty much unknown by everyone aside from us. He does everything asked of him and expected of him on the court.

I know dude I'm just bored. TJ is fine. I actually like him. I do feel he is a tad overrated by heat fans but I don't really mind it. I wouldn't get too attached tho. He may be included in a deal. Kinda like a "requirement" to eat Birds salary