Giannis' Development

Bucks4Milwaukee · Post #21 » by **Bucks4Milwaukee** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:44 am

H2tObes wrote:I feel like we are sticking with Monroe for a while, it will be hard for Giannis to score 20 a game next year unless he really explodes

5 points? I don't think it should be that hard.

Baddy Chuck · Post #22 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:47 am

I don't even think if matters if he does score 20 a game, it's just if he can which I think is pretty evident he could. As if him not scoring 4 more points a game because he has to play next to other guys is any indication of his skill level.

Bucks4Milwaukee · Post #23 » by **Bucks4Milwaukee** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:54 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:I don't even think if matters if he does score 20 a game, it's just if he can which I think is pretty evident he could. As if him not scoring 4 more points a game because he has to play next to other guys is any indication of his skill level.

It really doesn't matter. Run the offense through home, you win games. He's smart enough to take what the defense gives him.

H2tObes · Post #24 » by **H2tObes** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:09 am

Giannis will take a back seat to other guys, if Monroe wasnt on the team I think he would easily be able to score 20 if he improves. Just isnt going to be putting up enough shots

AussieBuck · Post #25 » by **AussieBuck** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:09 am

Swap Giannis with Wiggins and Rubio would have Giannis at 20PPG right now at good efficiency.

Jez2983 · Post #26 » by **Jez2983** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:24 am

I'm really happy that he's consistently hitting a floater now. His footwork getting to the rim is getting even better - he waits for an opening and then just steps through gaps to the ring even with 3 defenders around the paint. The great thing about his finishing now, is that he's happy to end up stepping to the side of the rim and is using great touch to lay the ball in/off the glass. He has much better control of the ball in hand on offence now, light years better than 12 months ago.

I'd wager he's dropped his charge numbers with Jabari becoming more of a threat and the fact we're using so many more cuts on offence, plus the fact that he is just literally stepping around people on his way to the paint.

I agree the jump shot will come, but I'd really love to see more of the back to the basket stuff we've seen, where we can see his beautiful footwork and some more of that hookshot that flashes out every once in a while.

breakchains · Post #27 » by **breakchains** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:01 am

I'm okay with Giannis not scoring 20ppg on a team with Khris, Jabari and Monroe as long as he gets to facilitate offense. I think he could easily average 7 assists a game if we did ala Draymond.

RRyder823 · Post #28 » by **RRyder823** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:17 am

Dcebucks11 wrote:
ZeppelinPage wrote:
Dcebucks11 wrote:
First of all idc about Wiggins I care about how the Bucks do. Second, Wiggins is much further along than Giannis. I would trade a package of Giannis + more to get him easily but minny would decline

That 52 TS% and .069 WS/48. So much further along.

It helps when all Giannis can do is dunk, like i said.. Giannis is not versatile enough to score much more than he has.. He's got no game other than at the rim.

Wiggins can do it all

Forget Wiggins can do it all. What exactly is it that Wiggins can do well or is even just solid at?

He's a horrible defender, bad passer, bad rebounder, doesn't have a solid jumper and takes alot of shots. He's really not a good player right now.

The ONLY thing he does better than Giannis is he has a "slightly" better jumper. He's worse at everything else. That's not saying he doesn't have a load of potential still but to say he's farther along than Giannis is just so unbelievably wrong it's not even a discussion.

Sorry. I forgot. Giannis is a finished product right now and Wiggins is guaranteed to develop light years beyond what he is and in every facet of his game even though they're pretty much the same age

H2tObes · Post #29 » by **H2tObes** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:44 am

I have never seen dcebucks back up any single one of his terrible arguments, why is he allowed to troll here all day?

Post #30 » by **Prez** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:49 am

H2tObes wrote:I have never seen dcebucks back up any single one of his terrible arguments, why is he allowed to troll here all day?

Because he's not blatant enough with it to warrant a ban. It's infuriating, but I guess that's the mark of a megatroll.

Ron Swanson · Post #31 » by **Ron Swanson** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 3:44 am

Just put him at PF full time and I think he averages Blake Griffin numbers (20/9/4) within 3 years.

AussieBuck · Post #32 » by **AussieBuck** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:33 am

Wiggins is amazingly good at drawing fouls on jumpers, particularly in the post.

H2tObes · Post #33 » by **H2tObes** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:37 am

AussieBuck wrote:Wiggins is amazingly good at drawing fouls on jumpers, particularly in the post.

DeAndrew DeWiggins

AussieBuck · Post #34 » by **AussieBuck** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:48 am

H2tObes wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:Wiggins is amazingly good at drawing fouls on jumpers, particularly in the post.

DeAndrew DeWiggins

Longer DD could be a formidable scorer. Do we know if the 9 foot standing reach Wiggins and Jabari measured privately was legit?

breakchains · Post #35 » by **breakchains** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:02 am

I think Wiggins will become a really good shooter too, over time. He has a very nice, compact stroke. Why are we talking about Wiggins here though?

ridetheskies · Post #36 » by **ridetheskies** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:29 am

Dce, you're no Sneaky Pete.

Shaffty · Post #37 » by **Shaffty** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:40 am

So much PPGz talk are we sure this isn't a Herb Kohl email chain?

Dcebucks11 · Post #38 » by **Dcebucks11** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:14 am

Bucks4Milwaukee wrote:
H2tObes wrote:I feel like we are sticking with Monroe for a while, it will be hard for Giannis to score 20 a game next year unless he really explodes

5 points? I don't think it should be that hard.

A lot of guys can score 15, not a lot can score 20 without a versatile game.. I think Giannis is a good player but he doesn't have much of a scoring package.

Triple 7 · Post #39 » by **Triple 7** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:25 am

AussieBuck wrote:Swap Giannis with Wiggins and Rubio would have Giannis at 20PPG right now at good efficiency.

Just look at the numbers Love was putting up in Minny, vs the numbers he's putting up now while having a usage block.

Dcebucks11 · Post #40 » by **Dcebucks11** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:36 am

I think the only way Giannis scores 20+ in a season is if he plays Center and they run pick and rolls with him all game.. Would need a decent pick and roll point guard.. That way the spacing is a bit better.. Than we can hopefully find a shooter at the 3..

Not sure that's the best strategy for winning games but it's good for padding stats eh.