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Markieff Morris stays put - with the firing of the coach and all the injuries the Suns season is in the tank anyhow. Morris' value is so low and he has a great contract that it makes sense to hold on to him until at least the offseason to see if the Suns can feature him the second half of the season and raise his value. With Hornaceck not there to fight with as much and their season over, the need to trade him is not so great.
Gordon --> Bulls for expirings and minor asset to give them another shooter, not sure any other team has the need for Gordon and has a large enough expiring to offer.
Anderson --> Raptors for Patterson/Bruno + pick or to the Kings for Rudy Gay
Gordon --> Bulls for expirings and minor asset to give them another shooter, not sure any other team has the need for Gordon and has a large enough expiring to offer.
Anderson --> Raptors for Patterson/Bruno + pick or to the Kings for Rudy Gay
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I think the Magic will be active sellers of the following in order
Channing Frye
Evan Fournier
Nikola Vucevic
Tobias Harris
Not that I think all will be dealt, I'd guess at the very least Frye. It's just a question of if teams want them and what they're willing to give for them. I think (maybe more hope), that they're going to commit to the Payton/Oladipo/Hezonja/Gordon group for the rest of the year.
Channing Frye
Evan Fournier
Nikola Vucevic
Tobias Harris
Not that I think all will be dealt, I'd guess at the very least Frye. It's just a question of if teams want them and what they're willing to give for them. I think (maybe more hope), that they're going to commit to the Payton/Oladipo/Hezonja/Gordon group for the rest of the year.
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I think Ryan Anderson will definitely be moved. Terrence Jones and one of the Rockets' wings have a good chance of being moved too. Horford is the only big fish that has a chance of being traded. If it happens it will go down right before the all star break to give the acquiring team time to integrate him into their lineup. I could see Toronto, Boston, or Houston putting together a strong offer for him.
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xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:Credit to the Pacers fan and Thunder fan that came up with this base on the trade board a few days ago.
Pacers/Thunder
Some variation of George Hill and Solomon Hill for Cameron Payne and Dion Waiters.
This is one of the only Payne trade scenarios that I'd consider. Hill's a good defender, can play 1 or 2 IIRC, has a good outside shot, and I like him. Still borderline because I actually think Payne has star potential (I understand if most people don't agree).
And Payne would instantly take over that fan favorite spot for you guys. He's going to be a big player. There's a reason none of us want to trade him.
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jazzfan1971 wrote:
Good idea for a thread. Seeing as the same guys are going to come up a lot, I'm going to be as specific as possible. I hope others follow suit cause it'll be good to distinguish the same trade ideas from each other.
Trade #1: Suns-Pistons
Markieff Morris for Jodie Meeks and the Pistons 2016 1st round pick (lottery protected)
The only way I see the Suns getting a 1st round pick out of Morris is if they take on a short-term contract like Meeks (out for the season) whose contract will be expiring after this season. Don't see the Pistons trading Ilyasova because he's a useful player that they can bring off the bench even with the addition of Morris. He'll also be on a good value contract relative to the new cap, and possible trade bait (expiring) next season. Don't see the Pistons trading Jennings either as they need him as their backup pg. The difference in talent from Jennings to Steve Blake would be much greater than from Morris to Ilyasova. The Suns don't have the PG minutes to give Jennings anyway. The Pistons should make the playoffs regardless, but as it stands they are only the 7th seed and Morris could help them get a better seed. And his twin brother is already on the team.
2016 Trade Deadline Predictions
CHI-TOR: Gibson/Bairstow for Scola/Johnson/Bennett/2016 Raps 1st
NOP-TOR: Anderson/Perkins for Scola/Johnson/Bennett/2016 Raps 1st
PHX-DET: Keef for Meeks, 2016 Det 1st
PHX-LAC: Tucker for Lance/Wilcox/2016 Nets 2nd
CHI-TOR: Gibson/Bairstow for Scola/Johnson/Bennett/2016 Raps 1st
NOP-TOR: Anderson/Perkins for Scola/Johnson/Bennett/2016 Raps 1st
PHX-DET: Keef for Meeks, 2016 Det 1st
PHX-LAC: Tucker for Lance/Wilcox/2016 Nets 2nd
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With all the ATL rebuild rumors going around I wouldn't be surprised if Millsap is quietly on the market for a huge hall. Turns 31 next year and looked into a very good contract. If ATL is truly entertaining breaking up the core with Horford and Teague it makes no sense to keep Millsap, who could bring back a bigger return than Horford (contract) and Teague (talent).
Likely contingent on moving Horford 1st, but there are always trades that happen for guys who aren't "available". A lot of teams will bid for Millsap.
Would Toronto offer Valancunis, the NYK 1st, and the better of the TOR/LAC '17 1st for Millsap?
Likely contingent on moving Horford 1st, but there are always trades that happen for guys who aren't "available". A lot of teams will bid for Millsap.
Would Toronto offer Valancunis, the NYK 1st, and the better of the TOR/LAC '17 1st for Millsap?
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I won't post who will go where. I will put up a list of players who will likely be move instead.
Jeff Teague
David Lee
Solomon Hill
Chase Budinger
Courtney Lee
Jeff Green
Jared Dudley
Rudy Gay
Channing Frye
Evan Fournier
Tobias Harris
Greg Monroe
Kevin Martin
Corey Brewer
Markieff Morris
Eric Bledsoe
Tyler Ennis
Joakim Noah
Roy Hibbert
Lou Williams
Eric Gordon
Tyreke Evans
Jose Calderon
Steve Novak
Jeff Teague
David Lee
Solomon Hill
Chase Budinger
Courtney Lee
Jeff Green
Jared Dudley
Rudy Gay
Channing Frye
Evan Fournier
Tobias Harris
Greg Monroe
Kevin Martin
Corey Brewer
Markieff Morris
Eric Bledsoe
Tyler Ennis
Joakim Noah
Roy Hibbert
Lou Williams
Eric Gordon
Tyreke Evans
Jose Calderon
Steve Novak
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Texas Chuck wrote:jazzfan1971 wrote:Texas Chuck wrote:Teague to Utah for Burke/2016 UTH 1st(mild protections)
I could see something like this happening, but, I really doubt it. Jazz are on their first 3 game win streak, Raul Neto just played the best game of his rookie year. The way things are going I think the Jazz are going to be content to just play out the season with the guys they have. I doubt if they will be willing to move their own first (with mild protections) for a stopgap guy at any rate. I am not even sure they'd give up one of their lesser first rounders.
If they can get some help for a 2nd and cap space I think they'll consider it, but, I don't believe they are feeling any pressure to fix the roster this year, so I doubt that they'll be moving any 1sts, preferring instead to develop their own guys.
I hear what you are saying and its been a consistent theme from Jazz fans on here. So I realize this isn't a very good prediction.
But my thinking is that Utah needs to be looking at using up some of their picks because they don't need to add many more young guys. But more importantly Utah has a bunch of core guys that are going to need big contracts starting 2 summers from now. So finding guys on deals that end by 2018 should be their strategy. It will be harder to get those guys via free agency with other teams being willing to give longer deals so the trade route is the way to go.
And I think the Hawks aren't going to find a lot of interested teams willing to give more value and if they are truly committing to Dennis, this deal makes sense as Burke makes a good compliment to him off the bench plus a pick that should be in the teens.
I don't see it. If we don't get good value for Teague I think we just keep him. No reason to downgrade Teague to Burke at a position we don't need.
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Atlhawks09 wrote:Texas Chuck wrote:jazzfan1971 wrote:
I could see something like this happening, but, I really doubt it. Jazz are on their first 3 game win streak, Raul Neto just played the best game of his rookie year. The way things are going I think the Jazz are going to be content to just play out the season with the guys they have. I doubt if they will be willing to move their own first (with mild protections) for a stopgap guy at any rate. I am not even sure they'd give up one of their lesser first rounders.
If they can get some help for a 2nd and cap space I think they'll consider it, but, I don't believe they are feeling any pressure to fix the roster this year, so I doubt that they'll be moving any 1sts, preferring instead to develop their own guys.
I hear what you are saying and its been a consistent theme from Jazz fans on here. So I realize this isn't a very good prediction.
But my thinking is that Utah needs to be looking at using up some of their picks because they don't need to add many more young guys. But more importantly Utah has a bunch of core guys that are going to need big contracts starting 2 summers from now. So finding guys on deals that end by 2018 should be their strategy. It will be harder to get those guys via free agency with other teams being willing to give longer deals so the trade route is the way to go.
And I think the Hawks aren't going to find a lot of interested teams willing to give more value and if they are truly committing to Dennis, this deal makes sense as Burke makes a good compliment to him off the bench plus a pick that should be in the teens.
I don't see it. If we don't get good value for Teague I think we just keep him. No reason to downgrade Teague to Burke at a position we don't need.
You get a likely mid 1st round pick for downgrading from Teague to Burke. That seems like fair value.
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Atlhawks09 wrote:I don't see it. If we don't get good value for Teague I think we just keep him. No reason to downgrade Teague to Burke at a position we don't need.
I understand what you are saying here too. I agree Teague is worth more on the court than the package I posted above. But if the Hawks are truly committing to Dennis then there is additional value in moving Teague out rather than moving him to the bench where he might not be happy. It sends a good message to agents/players that the Hawks take care of their guys and find them a good situation rather than marginalize them before they hit free agency.
Personally I'd rather the Hawks try and keep Teague long-term and deal Dennis. But it appears the organization feels differently?
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SD2042 wrote:I won't post who will go where. I will put up a list of players who will likely be move instead.
Jeff Teague
David Lee
Solomon Hill
Chase Budinger
Courtney Lee
Jeff Green
Jared Dudley
Rudy Gay
Channing Frye
Evan Fournier
Tobias Harris
Greg Monroe
Kevin Martin
Corey Brewer
Markieff Morris
Eric Bledsoe
Tyler Ennis
Joakim Noah
Roy Hibbert
Lou Williams
Eric Gordon
Tyreke Evans
Jose Calderon
Steve Novak
Add PJ Tucker to the list. 3/D 30 year old on an awful team with a reasonable salary locked in for this year and next (2 playoff runs). Every team can use an extra 3/D guy. He is on top of my list for guys likely to be moved.
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R-DAWG wrote:Atlhawks09 wrote:Texas Chuck wrote:
I hear what you are saying and its been a consistent theme from Jazz fans on here. So I realize this isn't a very good prediction.
But my thinking is that Utah needs to be looking at using up some of their picks because they don't need to add many more young guys. But more importantly Utah has a bunch of core guys that are going to need big contracts starting 2 summers from now. So finding guys on deals that end by 2018 should be their strategy. It will be harder to get those guys via free agency with other teams being willing to give longer deals so the trade route is the way to go.
And I think the Hawks aren't going to find a lot of interested teams willing to give more value and if they are truly committing to Dennis, this deal makes sense as Burke makes a good compliment to him off the bench plus a pick that should be in the teens.
I don't see it. If we don't get good value for Teague I think we just keep him. No reason to downgrade Teague to Burke at a position we don't need.
You get a likely mid 1st round pick for downgrading from Teague to Burke. That seems like fair value.
Bud gave up essentially the 15th pick for Tim Hardaway Jr last year. Not sure he values a mid 1st round that much unless there is someone he really likes but it's obviously too early to tell. Plus we have too many SG's on the roster as is.
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Atlhawks09 wrote:R-DAWG wrote:Atlhawks09 wrote:I don't see it. If we don't get good value for Teague I think we just keep him. No reason to downgrade Teague to Burke at a position we don't need.
You get a likely mid 1st round pick for downgrading from Teague to Burke. That seems like fair value.
Bud gave up essentially the 15th pick for Tim Hardaway Jr last year. Not sure he values a mid 1st round that much unless there is someone he really likes but it's obviously too early to tell. Plus we have too many SG's on the roster as is.
ok, but Teague isn't worth much more than a mid 1st round pick and a quality backup PG with upside IMO. Maybe change your stance to were not moving Teague unless we get overpaid to do so. Which is an ok stance to have on your player.
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R-DAWG wrote:SD2042 wrote:I won't post who will go where. I will put up a list of players who will likely be move instead.
Jeff Teague
David Lee
Solomon Hill
Chase Budinger
Courtney Lee
Jeff Green
Jared Dudley
Rudy Gay
Channing Frye
Evan Fournier
Tobias Harris
Greg Monroe
Kevin Martin
Corey Brewer
Markieff Morris
Eric Bledsoe
Tyler Ennis
Joakim Noah
Roy Hibbert
Lou Williams
Eric Gordon
Tyreke Evans
Jose Calderon
Steve Novak
Add PJ Tucker to the list. 3/D 30 year old on an awful team with a reasonable salary locked in for this year and next (2 playoff runs). Every team can use an extra 3/D guy. He is on top of my list for guys likely to be moved.
Good call on Tucker. I forgot him and Tim Hardaway Jr.
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Texas Chuck wrote:Atlhawks09 wrote:I don't see it. If we don't get good value for Teague I think we just keep him. No reason to downgrade Teague to Burke at a position we don't need.
I understand what you are saying here too. I agree Teague is worth more on the court than the package I posted above. But if the Hawks are truly committing to Dennis then there is additional value in moving Teague out rather than moving him to the bench where he might not be happy. It sends a good message to agents/players that the Hawks take care of their guys and find them a good situation rather than marginalize them before they hit free agency.
Personally I'd rather the Hawks try and keep Teague long-term and deal Dennis. But it appears the organization feels differently?
I think they see Schroder with more upside but I wouldn't mind giving up either if it was good value. Best case scenario is netting a quality SF but there really aren't many available on the block.
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R-DAWG wrote:Atlhawks09 wrote:R-DAWG wrote:
You get a likely mid 1st round pick for downgrading from Teague to Burke. That seems like fair value.
Bud gave up essentially the 15th pick for Tim Hardaway Jr last year. Not sure he values a mid 1st round that much unless there is someone he really likes but it's obviously too early to tell. Plus we have too many SG's on the roster as is.
ok, but Teague isn't worth much more than a mid 1st round pick and a quality backup PG with upside IMO. Maybe change your stance to were not moving Teague unless we get overpaid to do so. Which is an ok stance to have on your player.
I think he's worth more than that but it would take a good player at a position of need or a pick higher than a mid round 1st rounder. Plus Teague has been playing much better of late so his stock could rise if he continues his play.
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Teletovic is a likely candidate to be moved.
He is having a career year. He is averaging 10/3 in 18mpg, he makes 2 3s per game leading all bench players I think and shooting over 40% from 3.
He is having a much better year than most players considered stretch 4s (Illyasova, Frye) and he is doing almost as well as Ryan Anderson.
Teletovic and Tucker are both players that playoff teams should be lining up for to acquire from Phoenix.
He is having a career year. He is averaging 10/3 in 18mpg, he makes 2 3s per game leading all bench players I think and shooting over 40% from 3.
He is having a much better year than most players considered stretch 4s (Illyasova, Frye) and he is doing almost as well as Ryan Anderson.
Teletovic and Tucker are both players that playoff teams should be lining up for to acquire from Phoenix.
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dbrandon wrote:xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:Credit to the Pacers fan and Thunder fan that came up with this base on the trade board a few days ago.
Pacers/Thunder
Some variation of George Hill and Solomon Hill for Cameron Payne and Dion Waiters.
This is one of the only Payne trade scenarios that I'd consider. Hill's a good defender, can play 1 or 2 IIRC, has a good outside shot, and I like him. Still borderline because I actually think Payne has star potential (I understand if most people don't agree).
And Payne would instantly take over that fan favorite spot for you guys. He's going to be a big player. There's a reason none of us want to trade him.
Eh I think it would have to be something more like Payne, Waiters, Novak for G Hill, CJ Miles
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MoneyTalks41890 wrote:dbrandon wrote:xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:Credit to the Pacers fan and Thunder fan that came up with this base on the trade board a few days ago.
Pacers/Thunder
Some variation of George Hill and Solomon Hill for Cameron Payne and Dion Waiters.
This is one of the only Payne trade scenarios that I'd consider. Hill's a good defender, can play 1 or 2 IIRC, has a good outside shot, and I like him. Still borderline because I actually think Payne has star potential (I understand if most people don't agree).
And Payne would instantly take over that fan favorite spot for you guys. He's going to be a big player. There's a reason none of us want to trade him.
Eh I think it would have to be something more like Payne, Waiters, Novak for G Hill, CJ Miles
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Pacers could do that too, but do you realize how awful CJ Miles has been lately?
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