The Andrew Wiggins Thread

[Crazy-Canuck]

https://dunkingwithwolves.com/2016/02/21/should-the-timberwolves-trade-andrew-wiggins/

And here we go again.

[C.lupus]

[shangrila]

Does anyone else have issues with Dunking With Wolves? The site just flat out refuses to load for me and has for months.

[Dandy]

He looks much more balanced on his three pointers lately. If he keeps it up that percentage will go up and is game will open up. Looks promising...

[Worm Guts]

https://dunkingwithwolves.com/2016/02/21/should-the-timberwolves-trade-andrew-wiggins/

And here we go again.

I actually think this is an interesting idea. Instead of waiting for all 3 of our 20 year olds to peak around the same time, keep Towns and try to pry a couple peak superstars with Wiggins, Lavine and our pick. That way you compete for championships potentially as soon as next year, but you still have Towns to build the future on.

I don't think there is any chance we'll do it, but I don't think it's absurd.

[guest81]

https://dunkingwithwolves.com/2016/02/21/should-the-timberwolves-trade-andrew-wiggins/

And here we go again.

I actually think this is an interesting idea. Instead of waiting for all 3 of our 20 year olds to peak around the same time, keep Towns and try to pry a couple peak superstars with Wiggins, Lavine and our pick. That way you compete for championships potentially as soon as next year, but you still have Towns to build the future on.

I don't think there is any chance we'll do it, but I don't think it's absurd.

Wiggins Lavine pick for Anthony Davis. I'd be on board

[Crazy-Canuck]

I think it is worth considering.

Wiggins seems to be the odd man out recently behind lavine and kat. Some of wiggins polish has worn off for some of the media around the wolves.

A deal around Wiggs for an established star like blake is a great return. It could be a win win for both sides.

[Mattya]

I have a few problems with trading Wiggins.

1. I would need a great player in return for the guy, and that player would have be locked up for a looooong time.

2. I believe giving up on him now would be silly. When he is 22 or 23 he is going to make a lot of his critics look silly with his play alone. Our offense doesn't give anyone any space, our young guys are still learning how to play, and our old guys aren't really contributing on the court.

BG has an opt out after next year. PG13 has an opt out after 2 years which he would be silly not to use. DMC only has two years. John Wall might work if we find a following Rubio trade. I think the best course of action is to just be patient.

[NewWolvesOrder]

If we go trading Wiggins direction then we need to go all in. Let's trade Wiggins and Pek for Jimmy Butler and trade LaVine + our pick for another star player if we can. Dieng is also a possible trade bait if we go after a star PF. Bazz doesn't have much value so trading him may not be worth it. If we can add Butler and Griffin to Towns and Rubio then we have something, adding just one star isn't enough and we should stay the course then.

[Magoose]

I don't know if anyone else noticed that but a month or two ago I was under the impression that Wiggins changed his FT routine. Looked like he takes his time and tries to calm down and stay focused before trying to hit it.
Are there sites where I can look at his stats for just the last 20 games or so?

[Klomp]

I don't know if anyone else noticed that but a month or two ago I was under the impression that Wiggins changed his FT routine. Looked like he takes his time and tries to calm down and stay focused before trying to hit it.
Are there sites where I can look at his stats for just the last 20 games or so?

JimPete and Dave brought it up during the last game. I don't remember the exact numbers, but he's hit 40 of his last 46, and going back farther he's at 80% in the last 20 games.

[C.lupus]

I don't know if anyone else noticed that but a month or two ago I was under the impression that Wiggins changed his FT routine. Looked like he takes his time and tries to calm down and stay focused before trying to hit it.
Are there sites where I can look at his stats for just the last 20 games or so?

http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/203952/stats/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Split=lastn

[huesito]

Be patient!

You're gonna be saying the same thing about Towns next season if he doesn't get twice as good as he is now.

What a bunch of morons (Not you guys, the others guys. You Know).

[urinesane]

Lol, the guy was having 30 point nights not long before the all-star break and now he's 3rd fiddle after Lavine and Towns win meaningless awards?

I'm happy for those guys, but it doesn't make Lavine better than Wiggins. Keep all three though imo.

Rubio/Lavine/Wiggins/Towns the next few years could be an amazing group in a few years. Let them build chemistry and let the young guys grow into their games more.

[vagelis]

Wiggins improves and change his game from the first day he came to the league.
Every month he is different from the previous.
The previous year he used only post moves, this year he has changed and he plays with face to the basket.
He has improved his dribbling ability and the last two months he runs the floor more and goes to one foot jumps.
He changes and improves every day and he currently is in the top 20 scorers of the league.
I think that the next year he will explode to the top 10 players of nba.
He has all the tools

[XBuildMyThroneX]

https://dunkingwithwolves.com/2016/02/21/should-the-timberwolves-trade-andrew-wiggins/

And here we go again.

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[Worm Guts]

I think some of you are taking this as an insult to Wiggins when it wasn't meant to be. It's more of a question whether we should be patient if we don't have to be.

[wolves_89]

The amazing thing about a Wiggins/Towns/LaVine core is that the Wolves have control of them for a long time. Add in a fourth core piece with our top 5 pick this year and we could be set for the next 6-7 years or more. I'd like to keep the young group together rather than trying to bring in a vet player with only a couple of years left on his contract. Based on Minnesota's historic struggle to sign and retain top level NBA players it makes a lot of sense to me to keep the group of guys with the huge ceiling together for as long as possible (which luckily for us is a long time).

[C.lupus]

I think some of you are taking this as an insult to Wiggins when it wasn't meant to be. It's more of a question whether we should be patient if we don't have to be.

I don't take it as an insult. I just don't agree with going in that direction.

[Ferulci]

I think some of you are taking this as an insult to Wiggins when it wasn't meant to be. It's more of a question whether we should be patient if we don't have to be.

Well, the thing is that you have to be. Check what lacking of patience did to New Orleans/Anthony Davis and Sacramento/Cousins or the Nets : it's the best path to treadmill.
A winning culture is created from top to the bottom, and it takes time, good habits and continuity. There is no shortcuts to it, unless your president name is Pat Riley (and even here, the winning culture is here at every level).
And let's say you trade Wiggins for Paul George or Jimmy Butler (as a Chi fan, I would do that trade in a blink), where will that lead you ? To be crushed by Warriors/Spurs or OKC ? Hindering all players development but Towns in order to reach 2nd round at best ? That's the exact contrary of a winning culture.

Your leading scorer is putting 20 points on an outdated 90's style-offense negating all his strengths, and he's allowed to drink alcohol since today. And he's not even the best prospect on the team ! If I were in the front office, I would be doing somersaults.