The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 1)

[TaylorMonkey]

Curry is shooting the threes at 47% now.. mind blowing. 5.1/11 per game

When the season was underway, some of us joked the league needs to watch out if Curry turns it on after the ASG as he historically does. I not-totally-joking joked that he could actually improve on his ridiculous start.

He actually did.

A stand-out 3-point season of his up to this point was when he first beat the record while shooting .453. That's his highest accuracy while still shooting record breaking volume.

47% on what may be 400 makes. Increased outlier accuracy on 40% more volume.

There's no comparison. That's just absurd. ABSURD.

[Dr Spaceman]

Winning in OT at home is dominating?

For JB is, because it helps him defends Jordan as no 1 peak season.

I don't know, winning in OT at home against a mediocre Hawks that required a Draymond prayer with the team shooting 39% didn't exactly look like the 55-win Jordan-less Bulls from here.

I always say a player has "made it" on this forum when trolls start attacking them. JB getting sensitive is like the ultimate feather in Steph's cap, because it can only mean one thing: he's gunning for the crown.

[kayess]

For JB is, because it helps him defends Jordan as no 1 peak season.

I don't know, winning in OT at home against a mediocre Hawks that required a Draymond prayer with the team shooting 39% didn't exactly look like the 55-win Jordan-less Bulls from here.

I always say a player has "made it" on this forum when trolls start attacking them. JB getting sensitive is like the ultimate feather in Steph's cap, because it can only mean one thing: he's gunning for the crown.

Absolutely. How many players has JB ever felt threatened enough that he has to outright troll them whenever said player comes up? Probably just Bron and '14 Durant.

[TaylorMonkey]

For JB is, because it helps him defends Jordan as no 1 peak season.

I don't know, winning in OT at home against a mediocre Hawks that required a Draymond prayer with the team shooting 39% didn't exactly look like the 55-win Jordan-less Bulls from here.

I always say a player has "made it" on this forum when trolls start attacking them. JB getting sensitive is like the ultimate feather in Steph's cap, because it can only mean one thing: he's gunning for the crown.

Steph is Daenerys Targaryen. He's going to break the wheel.

[Dr Spaceman]

I don't know, winning in OT at home against a mediocre Hawks that required a Draymond prayer with the team shooting 39% didn't exactly look like the 55-win Jordan-less Bulls from here.

I always say a player has "made it" on this forum when trolls start attacking them. JB getting sensitive is like the ultimate feather in Steph's cap, because it can only mean one thing: he's gunning for the crown.

Absolutely. How many players has JB ever felt threatened enough that he has to outright troll them whenever said player comes up? Probably just Bron and '14 Durant.

Actually IIRC he was a huge proponent of KD in 14. Something about LeBron can't be GOAT if another player wins MVP during his prime.

[Reservoirdawgs]

They dominate even without Curry

If an OT win over a fairly mediocre Hawks team is "dominating", then what was the 55-win 1994 Jordan-less Bulls?

[tsherkin]

They dominate even without Curry

If an OT win over a fairly mediocre Hawks team is "dominating", then what was the 55-win 1994 Jordan-less Bulls?

I mean, cherry-picking a single game is pointless. The 72-win Bulls lost to the expansion Raptors in 96. Were they less dominant for that truth? This isn't the right way to approach that topic, and it strays from a discussion of Curry anyway, so let's just keep things focused on Steph.

[colts18]

Does anyone think that Curry could average 13 3PA/game in the future? Why isn't 15 3PA/game out of the picture? Right now he is averaging around 11 per game.

[Dr Spaceman]

^My philosophy at this point is just to not put a ceiling on Curry until he actually hits one.

[PCProductions]

People keep urging Curry to shoot more but does anybody really get the impression that he passes up shots? I'm pretty sure he shoots whatever he feels has a chance of going down, and deliberately increasing that volume might compromise the flow of his game.

[vokoksn91]

People keep urging Curry to shoot more but does anybody really get the impression that he passes up shots? I'm pretty sure he shoots whatever he feels has a chance of going down, and deliberately increasing that volume might compromise the flow of his game.

His ball handling and quick release allow him to get up a shot anytime he wants when he's single covered. For most players this would be an awful shot attempt, but I'm pretty confident Curry can hit 40% of these contested or semi-contested shots. Part of the flow of his game is catching defenders by surprise and firing from 3-5 feet behind the line. He feels like everything he throws up, no matter how off-balance, has a good chance to go down. He's right.

So it wouldn't mess up his flow, but for the Warriors ball-movement is so important that it might take away from Klay and Barnes games who rely on finding a good rhythm within the offense to get their shots.

[The-Power]

People keep urging Curry to shoot more but does anybody really get the impression that he passes up shots? I'm pretty sure he shoots whatever he feels has a chance of going down, and deliberately increasing that volume might compromise the flow of his game.

While I wouldn't urge Curry to shoot more, it's clear to me that he could look for his shot much more often than he does. There's nothing skill-wise preventing him from doing that and he already does it when he takes over in close games. If the only goal of the team was to let Curry shoot every possession, I have no doubts he could get off a decent shot anytime. Literally. Unless opponent's send four players to crowd him while the fifth players picks him up after he got rid of the ball until the other players are back at him again. But this isn't successful basketball and also not Curry's, Kerr's or the Warriors' approach to the game. You can see Curry calling plays for Klay or other players a lot. You see him setting screens for others, passing up decent looks for better looks, throwing the ball to the bigs without demanding it back etc.. It's how he should play but if he wanted to shoot whenever he feels like he could potentially make it, he would shoot all game long.

[nate33]

People keep urging Curry to shoot more but does anybody really get the impression that he passes up shots? I'm pretty sure he shoots whatever he feels has a chance of going down, and deliberately increasing that volume might compromise the flow of his game.

While I wouldn't urge Curry to shoot more, it's clear to me that he could look for his shot much more often than he does. There's nothing skill-wise preventing him from doing that and he already does it when he takes over in close games. If the only goal of the team was to let Curry shoot every possession, I have no doubts he could get off a decent shot anytime.

It would be interesting to see Golden State try that. Let the goal be for Curry to shoot on every single possession unless someone was wide open for a dunk.

The Spurs did that when David Robinson scored 71. He needed to score 65 points to secure the NBA scoring title that year, so they force fed him the ball. He played 44 minutes and took 41 shots in a 15 point win against the 27-win Clippers.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199404240LAC.html

[Mazter]

People keep urging Curry to shoot more but does anybody really get the impression that he passes up shots? I'm pretty sure he shoots whatever he feels has a chance of going down, and deliberately increasing that volume might compromise the flow of his game.

I don't think people realize how much energy it cost for Curry to get his shots off. Running around of screens to create a little bit of space to get his best possible shot is not that easy. I think Curry himself knows best when not to overdo it.

[Doctor MJ]

People keep urging Curry to shoot more but does anybody really get the impression that he passes up shots? I'm pretty sure he shoots whatever he feels has a chance of going down, and deliberately increasing that volume might compromise the flow of his game.

This resonates with me.

I was saying after last year that I thought Curry would get better because he'd stop being so reluctant to shoot "bad shots". He's done that now more than I imagined he ever would.

Could he go further? Maybe, but in the end what this should be is about figuring out what's truly the threshold between good & bad shots for him rather than just shooting "more". When I watch Curry now I don't get that same sense of him holding back, so it may be that he's largely reached the place he needs to be, as opposed to still being a guy still tentatively exploring.

[Clyde Frazier]

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[RSCD3_]

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Glad to see chauncey be third behind the outliers of curry and nash. I always felt his three's off the dribble were money and this validates it to an extent, I imagine if he was coming up in this era it would be a more utilized weapon

[Clyde Frazier]

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Glad to see chauncey be third behind the outliers of curry and nash. I always felt his three's off the dribble were money and this validates it to an extent, I imagine if he was coming up in this era it would be a more utilized weapon

Yeah, he almost had a sneaky quick release in that his game kinda lulled you into giving him room outside. He was never coming at you full speed really.

The guy also shot 39.9% from 3 on 4.8 attempts per game from 02-11, mostly as the primary ball handler, so you can see how many of those would've been unassisted.

[Texas Chuck]

Wow does Wade stick out on that chart in a very bad way.

[Bourne85]

I've been asking for Curry to put up 15 3s a game for a bit now. He doesn't really pass up any "open" looks as is already. But I feel like he can and should be given the liberty to create 3-5 extra 3s off dribble moves.

I would say he avg shoots up to 35ppg easily really.