2016 NBA Draft/College Basketball Thread

dorkestra · Post #1561 » by **dorkestra** » Tue Mar 1, 2016 10:01 pm

Dell wrote:Caris LeVert is hurt again. His stock is going to tumble as he can't stay healthy. I'd happily gamble on his if he's there with the OKC pick.

Before this injury, he would have been there for the OKC pick. And now, he's likely a mid-late 2nd rounder at best.

Dell · Post #1562 » by **Dell** » Tue Mar 1, 2016 10:33 pm

I don't know, he's missed a ton of time (as he always does), but he averaged 16.5 ppg / 5.3 rpg / 4.9 apg on 50.6% from the field and 44.6% from 3. I have no problem risking a very-late first round pick on a 6-7 SG with those numbers. If he gets hurt, he costs you basically nothing. If he magically stays healthy, you have a gigantic bargain.

dorkestra · Post #1563 » by **dorkestra** » Tue Mar 1, 2016 10:48 pm

Dell wrote:I don't know, he's missed a ton of time (as he always does), but he averaged 16.5 ppg / 5.3 rpg / 4.9 apg on 50.6% from the field and 44.6% from 3. I have no problem risking a very-late first round pick on a 6-7 SG with those numbers. If he gets hurt, he costs you basically nothing. If he magically stays healthy, you have a gigantic bargain.

He's definitely had some great moments, puts up decent stats like you've shown above. I just don't think that anyone is going to sign up to give him the guaranteed money and years that comes with a first round draft pick. His consistent health issues are worrying for me.

Ericb5 · Post #1564 » by **Ericb5** » Tue Mar 1, 2016 11:22 pm

dorkestra wrote:
Dell wrote:I don't know, he's missed a ton of time (as he always does), but he averaged 16.5 ppg / 5.3 rpg / 4.9 apg on 50.6% from the field and 44.6% from 3. I have no problem risking a very-late first round pick on a 6-7 SG with those numbers. If he gets hurt, he costs you basically nothing. If he magically stays healthy, you have a gigantic bargain.

He's definitely had some great moments, puts up decent stats like you've shown above. I just don't think that anyone is going to sign up to give him the guaranteed money and years that comes with a first round draft pick. His consistent health issues are worrying for me.

It's a pity really. I really like him as a player, but I agree he is injured all of the time. Would be a great time to still have our second round pick, but it is what it is.

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Dell · Post #1565 » by **Dell** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 12:13 am

Strange as it may sound, I would much prefer draft him at the very end of the first round than in the second.

Going by what Larry Nance Jr. is being paid, guaranteed money for the #27 pick in the draft (Where the OKC pick currently sits) is basically a 2-year, $2.3M deal with two options years totaling about $3.5M. If he's healthy you have an unreal bargain, if he's hurt, honestly who cares about $2,3M with how the cap is going to jump.

Post #1566 » by **Foshan** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 12:25 am

Dell wrote:Strange as it may sound, I would much prefer draft him at the very end of the first round than in the second.

Going by what Larry Nance Jr. is being paid, guaranteed money for the #27 pick in the draft (Where the OKC pick currently sits) is basically a 2-year, $2.3M deal with two options years totaling about $3.5M. If he's healthy you have an unreal bargain, if he's hurt, honestly who cares about $2,3M with how the cap is going to jump.

I agree. If LaVert drops to the 2nd round, i wouldn't be surprised to see him 'bet on himself' and only sign a one year deal.

I would be fine with taking him at the okc pick for sure.

Ericb5 · Post #1567 » by **Ericb5** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 1:21 am

Foshan wrote:
Dell wrote:Strange as it may sound, I would much prefer draft him at the very end of the first round than in the second.

Going by what Larry Nance Jr. is being paid, guaranteed money for the #27 pick in the draft (Where the OKC pick currently sits) is basically a 2-year, $2.3M deal with two options years totaling about $3.5M. If he's healthy you have an unreal bargain, if he's hurt, honestly who cares about $2,3M with how the cap is going to jump.

I agree. If LaVert drops to the 2nd round, i wouldn't be surprised to see him 'bet on himself' and only sign a one year deal.

I would be fine with taking him at the okc pick for sure.

Yeah, that's a good point. The only thing is that there could be better options there.

Still, Lavert at 27 is a high upside pick.

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Post #1568 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 2:31 am

Dell wrote:Strange as it may sound, I would much prefer draft him at the very end of the first round than in the second.

Going by what Larry Nance Jr. is being paid, guaranteed money for the #27 pick in the draft (Where the OKC pick currently sits) is basically a 2-year, $2.3M deal with two options years totaling about $3.5M. If he's healthy you have an unreal bargain, if he's hurt, honestly who cares about $2,3M with how the cap is going to jump.

Yep, and high 2nd rounders like Mickey and Jerami Grant etc all get 2 guaranteed years if they sign longer deals.

No-Man · Post #1569 » by **No-Man** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 7:58 pm

Derrick Jones Jr. out of UNLV has been deem ineligible after his ACT results got cancelled, weird, anyway, he is from Philly, and he has insane hops, the guy is the best athlete in this class for sure, he is really irregular as a shooter as of now, but he has a high ceiling, if he ends up declaring I'd consider him if I am Phila with either Miami's or OKC's pick if he is there.

Dell · Post #1570 » by **Dell** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 10:04 pm

Jones is a sensational dunker, but isn't he kind of Jeremi Grant-y? He's a 6-7 power forward.

No-Man · Post #1571 » by **No-Man** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 10:11 pm

Dell wrote:Jones is a sensational dunker, but isn't he kind of Jeremi Grant-y? He's a 6-7 power forward.

He is clearly a wing, he is under 200lbs and really fluid and athletic, he needs to improve his shooting, but he projects more like a perimeter player, to me.

Bigballer74 · Post #1572 » by **Bigballer74** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 10:48 pm

sixers23 wrote:Allen will be nothing in the NBA and is such a dirty player and annoying to watch

I wish I could And'1 this 10 more times.

Agnostifarian · Post #1573 » by **Agnostifarian** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 10:54 pm

Bigballer74 wrote:
sixers23 wrote:Allen will be nothing in the NBA and is such a dirty player and annoying to watch

I wish I could And'1 this 10 more times.

It's not like he's Vontaze Burfict.

iMoreland · Post #1574 » by **iMoreland** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 11:17 pm

I'm officially on the Brandon Ingram train

Agnostifarian · Post #1575 » by **Agnostifarian** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 11:36 pm

Nerlens No Ls wrote:I'm officially on the Brandon Ingram train

I like him more than Wiggins as a prospect. He's better at everything and projects better at SG where his length is even more ridiculous.

iMoreland · Post #1576 » by **iMoreland** » Sat Mar 5, 2016 11:35 am

Is a more lenghty Khris Middleton a good comparison for Brandon Ingram?

Sixersftw · Post #1577 » by **Sixersftw** » Sat Mar 5, 2016 7:48 pm

LSU/UK is on right now.

Boy did Ben Simmons pick the wrong school to go to.

Agnostifarian · Post #1578 » by **Agnostifarian** » Sat Mar 5, 2016 8:11 pm

Sixersftw wrote:LSU/UK is on right now.

Boy did Ben Simmons pick the wrong school to go to.

I hear that Ben Simmons' grade point average is under 2.0 so he is not eligible for the wooden award.

Unbreakable99 · Post #1579 » by **Unbreakable99** » Sat Mar 5, 2016 8:26 pm

Agnostifarian wrote:
Sixersftw wrote:LSU/UK is on right now.

Boy did Ben Simmons pick the wrong school to go to.

I hear that Ben Simmons' grade point average is under 2.0 so he is not eligible for the wooden award.

Who cares. He's passing basketball with flying colors.

phantom84 · Post #1580 » by **phantom84** » Sat Mar 5, 2016 8:45 pm

Skal "Lamarcus Aldridge" Labissierre is moving back up the draft. Dude mid-range J is so money.