OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread

[IllmaticHandler]

If he will start a war it will be agaisnt isis. He's mentioned bringing peace between Israel and palestine. That's a tough order but he's atleast talked about It. The other republic candidates do not want peace between those 2 nations.

Dude said ISLAM is our enemy...Not terrorists. He said ISLAM. You even saw it in this thread with some people praising him **** on ISLAM. His theme is not just "isis" Trump speaks so well to the hatred of this country. He actually is the perfect president for America. This the same country that arrested a Muslim child cause he built a clock, but because he is Islamic...he got detained for building a bomb.

Isis means the ISLAMIC state. There's a huge radical problem in Islam to deny that it doesn't exist is trying to be politically correct. Trump should have used his words better but there is some truth to what he's saying.

SMH. There is a HUGE radical problem in Christianity. There have been more crimes against humanity committed in the world, in the name of Jesus more than any other religion. The fact the people focus on Islam shows the tunnel vision of the world. Remember those weapons of Mass Destruction they were looking for in Iraq? all they found was Wells of Mass Oil that they now own. All this **** is a game, and for you to think that the actual narrative that is being reported is what it is, means you have alot more to wake up to.

[duetta]

Trump is one of those cowards from yesterday who went to a military academy yet still figured out a way of avoiding Vietnam.

He thinks picking a fight with China, our largest creditor, is going to be as simple as a twitter food fight with Rosie O'Donnell.

Anyone who takes anything he says seriously deserves to be a pigeon at Trump University.

[Sprewell4Three]

Dude said ISLAM is our enemy...Not terrorists. He said ISLAM. You even saw it in this thread with some people praising him **** on ISLAM. His theme is not just "isis" Trump speaks so well to the hatred of this country. He actually is the perfect president for America. This the same country that arrested a Muslim child cause he built a clock, but because he is Islamic...he got detained for building a bomb.

Isis means the ISLAMIC state. There's a huge radical problem in Islam to deny that it doesn't exist is trying to be politically correct. Trump should have used his words better but there is some truth to what he's saying.

SMH. There is a HUGE radical problem in Christianity. There have been more crimes against humanity committed in the world, in the name of Jesus more than any other religion. The fact the people focus on Islam shows the tunnel vision of the world. Remember those weapons of Mass Destruction they were looking for in Iraq? all they found was Wells of Mass Oil that they now own. All this **** is a game, and for you to think that the actual narrative that is being reported is what it is, means you have alot more to wake up to.

So you want to talk about Christian crimes that were committed 2000 years ago? Let's talk about the religious crimes today. Christians don't believe in murdering people that don't believe like the do. And you can be politically correct if you want but there's an extreme side of Islam and it's hard to distinguish who's extreme and who is not. Just look at the San Bernandino shooting.

[IllmaticHandler]

Lets just pretend its not a photoshop, call him a racist, lets call Ben Carson who now supports him an Uncle Tom and so on and so on. Sadly, that is how the playbook works.

Ben Carson is leading the Uncle Tom Express at this momment.

What do you call those that vote for Hillary Clinton then? She's the one that passed that crime bill and called African Americans 'super predators'

None of these Mofo's have our best interest in mind. You think I care for Hilary?. Man Please.

[Fat Kat]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/nbcnewspr/status/709003406778748928[/tweet]

A white-supremacist dream. That's his true base. Don't give me this bullchit about the middle classes' disenchantment with Washington. Trump's an embodiment of his party's racist and xenophobic ideals. He's one of them. He just snowballed, and they're chasing him down the hill.

A little tea-party rhetoric mixed with Richard Nixon’s Southern Strategy. Coming on the heels of a 2 term, black president, it was bound to work.

It's good to see where folks stand though.

[Smash3]

I'd assume he tones down substantially if he actually wins. Starting wars or going toe to toe with foreign leaders isn't a sound strategy. It will likely create more problems, conflict, and fallout then he's prepared to handle. Right now as a candidate alone, he can speak freely without too much consequence. Basically he's not the President now, and saying anything and everything doesn't hurt him, ATM, as he has nothing to lose. I'm sure he does he have a strong team of advisers and if elected, they will guide him to be more presidential while bing less litigious/contentious

Agree 100% - he's a smart guy obviously by how he has dominated the political landscape. If he wins I expect he will tone it down, put the proper experts in the proper places to run the country. If we survived 8 years under the current embarrassment who has divided the country and helped no one in the process, then we can survive Trump. Nothing wrong with a deal maker - Bill Clinton was one - so was Reagan - and that is when the Country prospered. This arrogant my way or the highway and vilifying your opposition instead of working with them, which is what this POTUS has done, has badly damaged this Country which is a mess at home and abroad. And Hillary will just be more of the same, amazing she, a serial liar or a socialist can ever be considered. That's how far left the Dem's have moved - they have become a scam, especially to the middle class and minorities - just for their votes, nothing more. I just cant wait until Jan. 20, 2017 when we are finally rid of the clown we have now.

Bingo! I don't agree with everything trump says or does but he's the only candidate that will work with the other side. The others are not going to be flexible at. Some are too conservative and the others are too liberal. Bernie Sanders and his socialism views will destroy this country

Trump will do as he pleases, the fact that you think he will be this unifying person speaks volumes about your knowledge of Trump. Donald thinks he´s still on the apprentice and tackling leaders of China, Mexico, Iran etc will be as easy as just firing them if they don´t comply... Come on..

[IllmaticHandler]

Isis means the ISLAMIC state. There's a huge radical problem in Islam to deny that it doesn't exist is trying to be politically correct. Trump should have used his words better but there is some truth to what he's saying.

SMH. There is a HUGE radical problem in Christianity. There have been more crimes against humanity committed in the world, in the name of Jesus more than any other religion. The fact the people focus on Islam shows the tunnel vision of the world. Remember those weapons of Mass Destruction they were looking for in Iraq? all they found was Wells of Mass Oil that they now own. All this **** is a game, and for you to think that the actual narrative that is being reported is what it is, means you have alot more to wake up to.

So you want to talk about Christian crimes that were committed 2000 years ago? Let's talk about the religious crimes today. Christians don't believe in murdering people that don't believe like the do. And you can be politically correct if you want but there's an extreme side of Islam and it's hard to distinguish who's extreme and who is not. Just look at the San Bernandino shooting.

I think you highly miss the point. There are more Christians behind the corruption of the world than there are Islamic people TODAY. You think the only crimes are being committed 2,000 years ago? Most of the people do foul **** in America are the Christians. I don't see Christianity holding anybody back from being foul. I am not even a Muslim. But Christianity swears its so Holy and Islam is so savage.

[NYKnicksTAPE]

Donald Trump wants to "make America hate again"....he's a clown and not fit to be president.

[NYKnicksTAPE]

SMH. There is a HUGE radical problem in Christianity. There have been more crimes against humanity committed in the world, in the name of Jesus more than any other religion. The fact the people focus on Islam shows the tunnel vision of the world. Remember those weapons of Mass Destruction they were looking for in Iraq? all they found was Wells of Mass Oil that they now own. All this **** is a game, and for you to think that the actual narrative that is being reported is what it is, means you have alot more to wake up to.

So you want to talk about Christian crimes that were committed 2000 years ago? Let's talk about the religious crimes today. Christians don't believe in murdering people that don't believe like the do. And you can be politically correct if you want but there's an extreme side of Islam and it's hard to distinguish who's extreme and who is not. Just look at the San Bernandino shooting.

I think you highly miss the point. There are more Christians behind the corruption of the world than there are Islamic people TODAY. You think the only crimes are being committed 2,000 years ago? Most of the people do foul **** in America are the Christians. I don't see Christianity holding anybody back from being foul. I am not even a Muslim. But Christianity swears its so Holy and Islam is so savage.

The guy who attacked the Planned Parenthood Clinic in Colorado killing 3 people and injuring 9 was a conservative Christian who did what he did because the people in the clinic didn't believe in his views.

[nykballa2k4]

People are pissed at the establishment and media/opposition are spending 10's of millions against Trump by the week. I'd say something is up.

I don't think Trump is an answer, just a reaction to years of corruption. The system is just trying to right itself.
For sure Trump is a thorn in the side of establishment, so enjoy the show. I really doubt they will let him win though.

The issue is that if it were anyone BUT Trump, it would be a movement worth supporting. For example Mark Cuban to me is a similar mogul, and unlike Hillary, he clearly knows how to keep stuff confidential (Cyberdust).
The idea of a private businessman running for president, holding a party affiliation in nominal capacity only, to me is highly appealing. The candidate himself appears to be VERY dangerous. If any other nation were to be having a Ted Cruz and Donald Drumpf potential leader, WE would be considering this a possible terrorist regime because of threats to "carpet bomb" nations and threaten other countries.

I think part of Trumps support comes from the part of America that has been incensed by social issues. For any action their is a reaction, "Black Lives Matter" has potential to be a great cause, but there are supporters within that regime (as with ANY regime, be it this, boy scouts, political parties, you name it) that are extremists. Typically extremists, by definition are louder, more crass, more threatening. Therefore, Trump's "white power" movement was given an inch when Trump declared war on political correctness and attempted to stand behind the 1st amendment. This group, where xenophobia and/or fear run rampant, represent part of his key constituency.

On the other side, there appear to be some that view Trump the way they would a Rorschack test. They see what they WANT to see. Trump can say "I'm going to build a wall" the supporter will say "he isn't really anti-immigration, over 1/2 his wives are immigrants." They view Trumps speeches as him playing the game, and the real Donald, the one who they know parts of from TV, will be the real person. Trump, afterall supported Amarosa repeatedly despite her being african american AND a women.

The reality is, to me, that Trump is forever self-interested. This is what scares me the most is that he will always be Donald-first in policy. He has a conquerors mentality, he appears to lack empathy, he speaks on the "common mans" fears and offers enemies which he can destroy rather than solutions. This is why the Hitler comparisons are not campy/fun, but legitimate. I feel like making the comparisons to these despots almost serves to make Trump LESS frightening, perhaps since he has not accomplished these fiats yet. Should he have the chance, America will be in trouble.

[thebuzzardman]

This is Trumps Campaign in a nutshell.

I saw that on facebook.
Supposedly that was a photoshop picture. You can tell by the distortion of the word.

Lets just pretend its not a photoshop, call him a racist, lets call Ben Carson who now supports him an Uncle Tom and so on and so on. Sadly, that is how the playbook works.

Come on; there is at the very least an undercurrent of racism in Trumps campaign; why shouldn't there be? The Republican party has flirted with racism against blacks, to one degree or another, since at least Nixon, as they sought to capture "the solid south" democratic vote. All those white racists who wouldn't vote for the party of Lincoln got recruited and now vote Republican every time. Usually the racism is in code, with sayings like "Welfare causes entitlement. Look at all those on Welfare with bling".

Welfare may or may not cause entitlement, but I know for sure when I have that ignorant old friend or family member and they use the statement like that, it isn't just big government they have an issue with.

Trump absolutely played the race card on Mexicans. Yes, being upset about illegal immigration need not be racist. But Trump claimed we get their "worst - rapists, thugs, drug dealers". Er, no. Sure, some people like that come over. Mainly people come to work at cheap jobs because there is almost zero repercussions for businesses who hire illegals. Hmmm....wonder why that is.

Trump himself just does the legal thing and hires cheap Euro workers from busted ass former Soviet bloc countries and pays them like crap w/o benefits. That's legal, but it sure aint "jobs for Americans" (this is the practice at a lot of his resorts)

[nykballa2k4]

So you want to talk about Christian crimes that were committed 2000 years ago? Let's talk about the religious crimes today. Christians don't believe in murdering people that don't believe like the do. And you can be politically correct if you want but there's an extreme side of Islam and it's hard to distinguish who's extreme and who is not. Just look at the San Bernandino shooting.

I think you highly miss the point. There are more Christians behind the corruption of the world than there are Islamic people TODAY. You think the only crimes are being committed 2,000 years ago? Most of the people do foul **** in America are the Christians. I don't see Christianity holding anybody back from being foul. I am not even a Muslim. But Christianity swears its so Holy and Islam is so savage.

The guy who attacked the Planned Parenthood Clinic in Colorado killing 3 people and injuring 9 was a conservative Christian who did what he did because the people in the clinic didn't believe in his views.

The way religion is indoctrinated in people (portrayed as an absolute belief system) incites extremism. That is why it is important to avoid painting with a wide brush. By in large, people are good enough. This is why we need to have a strong middle leader. Not strong like Putin, but strong like America has been in the past.

[thebuzzardman]

Ben Carson is leading the Uncle Tom Express at this momment.

What do you call those that vote for Hillary Clinton then? She's the one that passed that crime bill and called African Americans 'super predators'

None of these Mofo's have our best interest in mind. You think I care for Hilary?. Man Please.

Right? Bill Clinton quadrupled down on Federal prison sentences and supported "three strikes your out" which, while tough on crime...everyone knew these laws got applied worse in the poor neighborhoods. Bill Clinton a BIG contributor to the incarceration nation. He never rolled back any of the ridiculous drug laws which were basically Jim Crow laws at their root. And really just easy politics to look "tough on crime" by rounding up poor schnooks with a habit.

[nykballa2k4]

I saw that on facebook.
Supposedly that was a photoshop picture. You can tell by the distortion of the word.

Lets just pretend its not a photoshop, call him a racist, lets call Ben Carson who now supports him an Uncle Tom and so on and so on. Sadly, that is how the playbook works.

Come on; there is at the very least an undercurrent of racism in Trumps campaign; why shouldn't there be? The Republican party has flirted with racism against blacks, to one degree or another, since at least Nixon, as they sought to capture "the solid south" democratic vote. All those white racists who wouldn't vote for the party of Lincoln got recruited and now vote Republican every time. Usually the racism is in code, with sayings like "Welfare causes entitlement. Look at all those on Welfare with bling".

Welfare may or may not cause entitlement, but I know for sure when I have that ignorant old friend or family member and they use the statement like that, it isn't just big government they have an issue with.

Trump absolutely played the race card on Mexicans. Yes, being upset about illegal immigration need not be racist. But Trump claimed we get their "worst - rapists, thugs, drug dealers". Er, no. Sure, some people like that come over. Mainly people come to work at cheap jobs because there is almost zero repercussions for businesses who hire illegals. Hmmm....wonder why that is.

Trump himself just does the legal thing and hires cheap Euro workers from busted ass former Soviet bloc countries and pays them like crap w/o benefits. That's legal, but it sure aint "jobs for Americans" (this is the practice at a lot of his resorts)

Racist caucasion-americans have certainly found salvation in the Trump campaign.

[thebuzzardman]

I think you highly miss the point. There are more Christians behind the corruption of the world than there are Islamic people TODAY. You think the only crimes are being committed 2,000 years ago? Most of the people do foul **** in America are the Christians. I don't see Christianity holding anybody back from being foul. I am not even a Muslim. But Christianity swears its so Holy and Islam is so savage.

The guy who attacked the Planned Parenthood Clinic in Colorado killing 3 people and injuring 9 was a conservative Christian who did what he did because the people in the clinic didn't believe in his views.

The way religion is indoctrinated in people (portrayed as an absolute belief system) incites extremism. That is why it is important to avoid painting with a wide brush. By in large, people are good enough. This is why we need to have a strong middle leader. Not strong like Putin, but strong like America has been in the past.

Human beings will always run towards extremism. It isn't only religion. Communism...Facism...and so on.

Point is, religion gets more of a bad rap here than it deserves. It's a force for good; it's been a force for bad. Humans can use any system each way.

[thebuzzardman]

Lets just pretend its not a photoshop, call him a racist, lets call Ben Carson who now supports him an Uncle Tom and so on and so on. Sadly, that is how the playbook works.

Come on; there is at the very least an undercurrent of racism in Trumps campaign; why shouldn't there be? The Republican party has flirted with racism against blacks, to one degree or another, since at least Nixon, as they sought to capture "the solid south" democratic vote. All those white racists who wouldn't vote for the party of Lincoln got recruited and now vote Republican every time. Usually the racism is in code, with sayings like "Welfare causes entitlement. Look at all those on Welfare with bling".

Welfare may or may not cause entitlement, but I know for sure when I have that ignorant old friend or family member and they use the statement like that, it isn't just big government they have an issue with.

Trump absolutely played the race card on Mexicans. Yes, being upset about illegal immigration need not be racist. But Trump claimed we get their "worst - rapists, thugs, drug dealers". Er, no. Sure, some people like that come over. Mainly people come to work at cheap jobs because there is almost zero repercussions for businesses who hire illegals. Hmmm....wonder why that is.

Trump himself just does the legal thing and hires cheap Euro workers from busted ass former Soviet bloc countries and pays them like crap w/o benefits. That's legal, but it sure aint "jobs for Americans" (this is the practice at a lot of his resorts)

Racist caucasion-americans have certainly found salvation in the Trump campaign.

Yeah, it's pretty hard to deny. I'm not saying he isn't speaking to the anger and resentment of working class whites (and non whites) who feel screwed over by the system. But there is a strong whiff of racism as well among many whites who support him.

[Sprewell4Three]

Ben Carson is leading the Uncle Tom Express at this momment.

What do you call those that vote for Hillary Clinton then? She's the one that passed that crime bill and called African Americans 'super predators'

None of these Mofo's have our best interest in mind. You think I care for Hilary?. Man Please.

I rest my case you just dodged my question completely. whatever.

[AllanH20]

The best thing about Trump is that all the bigots are coming out of the closet. It's useful to know.

And like Fat Kat said, his strategy was bound to work after a black president. He'll get his ass whooped in the general election and it will cost the Republicans in congress. Far right supporters are always the loudest but the median voter will be scared terrified of him.

[E-Balla]

Lets just pretend its not a photoshop, call him a racist, lets call Ben Carson who now supports him an Uncle Tom and so on and so on. Sadly, that is how the playbook works.

Ben Carson is leading the Uncle Tom Express at this momment.

What do you call those that vote for Hillary Clinton then? She's the one that passed that crime bill and called African Americans 'super predators'

She passed the crime bill while not holding any type of office? How'd she manage to pull that off?

[thebuzzardman]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/nbcnewspr/status/709003406778748928[/tweet]

A white-supremacist dream. That's his true base. Don't give me this bullchit about the middle classes' disenchantment with Washington. Trump's an embodiment of his party's racist and xenophobic ideals. He's one of them. He just snowballed, and they're chasing him down the hill.

A little tea-party rhetoric mixed with Richard Nixon’s Southern Strategy. Coming on the heels of a 2 term, black president, it was bound to work.

It's good to see where folks stand though.

Good points.