Giannis' Development

[MadBlueEdwards]

In RFA the only way that Bucks could lose him is by being unable to match a crazy contract from lets say the Lakers?

I believe the Bucks can match any offer he gets. He's not going anywhere.

You mean the salary cap doesn't matter in this case?
I see.

Correct

[Magic Giannison]

Question is, what if GIannis declines extension ?
Does he become RFA next year or UFA?

I think if he see's 5yr/125+ mil in front of him, and a promise to build something great in the city that took a chance on him...

How can he say no?

No ofc i was just curious about this impossible scenario XD
Don't worry he isnt going anywhere.

[Magic Giannison]

NBA's contract situation is very confusing to non-americans.
If I was Giannis I would have taken the max immediately.

Excluding all the "by heart" reasons of picking him from Greece's second division and giving him the chance of playing in NBA at age 18 as a starter etc etc he still have plenty of reasons of staying in Milwaukee.

1) It's a club on the rising thirsty for success.
2) He is/can be a franchise player which can make him easier an all star player/superstar..
3) New Arena incoming which will complete the overall restart of the club.
4) The other 2 best players will/should not go anywhere for years and thus there is no chance of disbanding the Big 3 which is essential for a title.
5) There is always a chance of a big injury which can muddle the waters of your future.(I don't want to jinx it but it's the reality and I think Giannis and his family will consider that possibility too)

Yeha i thought extension is part of cap as well so maybe he and the team would do a deal in order to bring some RFA this year and sign him max next year or something to accommodate the limit.
If it snot then yeah, he should sing instantly

[3Diamantidis]

http://bleacherreport.com/nba

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2625666-giannis-antetokounmpo-earning-greek-freak-nickname-and-thursday-nba-takeaways

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[Jez2983]

I would think that if the Bucks do not retain Giannis, either:

1) we **** up royally. Like someone deeply insulted him or his family. Or he hates someone.

2) he wants to become one of the more hated players in the NBA.

I'm not seeing it.

[Shaffty]

NBA's contract situation is very confusing to non-americans.
If I was Giannis I would have taken the max immediately.

Excluding all the "by heart" reasons of picking him from Greece's second division and giving him the chance of playing in NBA at age 18 as a starter etc etc he still have plenty of reasons of staying in Milwaukee.

1) It's a club on the rising thirsty for success.
2) He is/can be a franchise player which can make him easier an all star player/superstar..
3) New Arena incoming which will complete the overall restart of the club.
4) The other 2 best players will/should not go anywhere for years and thus there is no chance of disbanding the Big 3 which is essential for a title.
5) There is always a chance of a big injury which can muddle the waters of your future.(I don't want to jinx it but it's the reality and I think Giannis and his family will consider that possibility too)

Yeha i thought extension is part of cap as well so maybe he and the team would do a deal in order to bring some RFA this year and sign him max next year or something to accommodate the limit.
If it snot then yeah, he should sing instantly

His extension dosen't kick in until the year after next because its after his rookie contract which ends in 2018

[Nightfall]

If Giannis is treated like he should, there is no way he will decline. No way either the Bucks or Giannis f*cks this up.
Giannis will be here for many years and rings to come

[greekbuck34]

Giannis in post-asb plays like a superstar.
Just below the level of Durant and Curry and better than Kawai and Lebron in efficiency.
All that without a jumpshot and in bad fit of a team full of injuries.
As a point forward!

Just amazing.

http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/home/16/1-18-1

In terms of efficiency he is the 9th best player of the league in post-asb (15 games).
If you count him as a PG he is the 4th best under Curry, CP3 and Westbrook.
If you count him as a SF he is second under Durant.
If you count him as a PF he is second under AD.

[Flight 22]

Giannis in post season plays like a superstar.
Just below the level of Durant and Curry and better than Kawai and Lebron in efficiency.
All that without a jumpshot and in bad fit of a team full of injuries.
As a point forward!

Just amazing.

http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/home/16/1-18-1

In terms of efficiency he is the 9th best player of the league in post season(15 games).
If you count him as a PG he is the 4th best under Curry, CP3 and Westbrook.
If you count him as a SF he is second under Durant.
If you count him as a PF he is second under AD.

For clarification, do you mean post All-star break, not postseason?

[greekbuck34]

Giannis in post season plays like a superstar.
Just below the level of Durant and Curry and better than Kawai and Lebron in efficiency.
All that without a jumpshot and in bad fit of a team full of injuries.
As a point forward!

Just amazing.

http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/home/16/1-18-1

In terms of efficiency he is the 9th best player of the league in post season(15 games).
If you count him as a PG he is the 4th best under Curry, CP3 and Westbrook.
If you count him as a SF he is second under Durant.
If you count him as a PF he is second under AD.

For clarification, do you mean post All-star break, not postseason?

Yeah I fixed it. For post season we need only 13 more wins in the next 13 games to check it out.

[Flight 22]

Giannis in post season plays like a superstar.
Just below the level of Durant and Curry and better than Kawai and Lebron in efficiency.
All that without a jumpshot and in bad fit of a team full of injuries.
As a point forward!

Just amazing.

http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/home/16/1-18-1

In terms of efficiency he is the 9th best player of the league in post season(15 games).
If you count him as a PG he is the 4th best under Curry, CP3 and Westbrook.
If you count him as a SF he is second under Durant.
If you count him as a PF he is second under AD.

For clarification, do you mean post All-star break, not postseason?

Yeah I fixed it. For post season we need only 13 more wins in the next 13 games to check it out.

I'm pulling for you guys. Giannis is sure to improve from his already outstanding ability, and Parker should also make solid gains considering last years unfortunate injury. Maybe in the next decade we'll see a few Wiggins/Kat and Parker/Giannis final match ups.

[greekbuck34]

For clarification, do you mean post All-star break, not postseason?

Yeah I fixed it. For post season we need only 13 more wins in the next 13 games to check it out.

I'm pulling for you guys. Giannis is sure to improve from his already outstanding ability, and Parker should also make solid gains considering last years unfortunate injury. Maybe in the next decade we'll see a few Wiggins/Kat and Parker/Giannis final match ups.

Can wait for the most exciting finals of modern era full of highlight dunks, blocks and crossovers in only run n gun games.

[freewhitemoon]

stay tuned for the giannis breakdown by bballbreakdown

https://twitter.com/bballbreakdown/status/711187347191296000

[Chapter29]

Giannis will extend with the Bucks. Not much in life is certain, but this is as close to it as it comes. We would have to royally screw up for this to happen. We love Giannis and Giannis loves us. Its a done deal. Pay him the max...easy sneezy.

[breakchains]

More talk that Porzingis is not doing NT stuff this summer, instead focusing on rest, skill development, and strength training. Really wish Giannis does the same.

[greekbuck34]

More talk that Porzingis is not doing NT stuff this summer, instead focusing on rest, skill development, and strength training. Really wish Giannis does the same.

The difference is that Porzingis needs and has to do this because he looks half dead the past 2-3 months even though he only plays 20-22 mpg.

Giannis is playing 40mpg and as the season goes he doesn't stop improving posting almost 3D averages.

We will see what will happen in the end but how would you propose to a 21 years old to ignore this unique opportunity on leading his NT to the Olympics and just sit for a whole Summer in Milwaukee shooting all day jumpshots.

If Greece fails to qualify from the pre-Olympics(Which is a very possible scenario) Giannis will have the rest of the Summer free anyway.

[Chapter29]

Just sit for a summer shooting jumpshots? No. And I know you're in part kidding.

For starters, not playing competitive ball most of the summer is a good thing. Have to play with a different system and different players.

He would do far more than just shoot jumpshots. He would A. Rest. B. Continue to weight train and C. Do basketball specific training hopefully led by our coaches which include jumpsots.

I really hope he skips it this year.

[Prez]

More talk that Porzingis is not doing NT stuff this summer, instead focusing on rest, skill development, and strength training. Really wish Giannis does the same.

The difference is that Porzingis needs and has to do this because he looks half dead the past 2-3 months even though he only plays 20-22 mpg.

Giannis is playing 40mpg and as the season goes he doesn't stop improving posting almost 3D averages.

We will see what will happen in the end but how would you propose to a 21 years old to ignore this unique opportunity on leading his NT to the Olympics and just sit for a whole Summer in Milwaukee shooting all day jumpshots.

If Greece fails to qualify from the pre-Olympics(Which is a very possible scenario) Giannis will have the rest of the Summer free anyway.

He is getting plenty of game action as it is. Just because he isn't dying like Porzingis doesn't mean he doesn't need rest. This stuff adds up, he's going to be playing massive minutes next season and we'll likely be in the playoffs, it will eventually get to him.

The biggest need for him right now is skill training. He needs to put up thousands of jumpers this summer and refine his ball handling a ton if he wants to take this on-ball role to the next level.

He supposedly put in a lot of work this past offseason on his jumper outside of NT play..what was the result? I don't care what people say, he absolutely will not get as much individual training that he needs as he would if he just stayed in the US and dedicated himself to it.

[greekbuck34]

Guys I don't disagree with you. I'm just saying that it will be hard for him to deny this opportunity.
Most of the veterans retired.
The keys of the team on his hands.
Olympic Games.

If it was a Eurobasket I think it would have been easier...

Anyway as I ve just said.
He will/could have plenty of time to rest since we missed the playoffs this year and there is a high possibility of failing to qualify from the pre-olympics. Beating Croatia or Italy infront of their home crowd is not at all easy especially for a completely new and young team like current Greece.

So Giannis will rest for a month or two in NBA post season.
He can go for half a month to prepare and play for the pre-Olympics
and
If he fails to qualify he could have the rest of the Summer (more than 3 months) for any preseason training he needs.
If he manages to lead Greece to Rio it would be a great experience for him while he will also increase his superstardom of his name, something I think it worths better overall.

[Presence]

If he has half the brain he's shown, he'll understand that taking this summer off NT play will pay huge dividends in the next 16 years he'll get to roll with them.

Leading a team to the Olympics as an unfinished product is a million times less satisfying than leading a team to a medal as a complete player.