OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread

[CJackson]

Then let me give you reason for some hope. Ohio, as you may or may not know (I didn't recall until this recent primary), is an open primary. Unfortunately, many moderates and independents voted for their governor, John Katich, which took a lot of votes away from Bernie.

I understand Bernie is fighting a lot of forces out there, including the DNC and Obama's political machine which he gave to the Clintons. I still have faith. Just gotta take them one at time, state by state. Right now, I'm just concerned with Wyoming and Wisconsin.

I don't know how it works but don't you need to be a registered Republic to vote in the primaries for Kasich? Not sure how that would take away from Bernie.

No. As I understand it, as long as you're a registered voter in either party (or even as an independent, as presume), you can vote for any of the candidates running in either party.

in the general election you can vote for anyone. in the primaries you have vote inside your registered party usually but there are variations in some states. this explains it

http://www.fairvote.org/primaries

[CJackson]

Bernie's and Hillary's respective campaigns came to an agreement about additional three debates just before the NH primary. There was the one right before the NH, there is supposed to be one in March and then one after that (I forget when exactly). Bernie wants to debate in New York just before the NY primary on April 19. Hillary responded that she would consider that only if Bernie changed his "negative tone."

This was the internet's response to her:

http://usuncut.com/news/tonedownforwhat-hillary-clinton-ny-debate/

bitch scared

[HarthorneWingo]

Bernie's and Hillary's respective campaigns came to an agreement about additional three debates just before the NH primary. There was the one right before the NH, there is supposed to be one in March and then one after that (I forget when exactly). Bernie wants to debate in New York just before the NY primary on April 19. Hillary responded that she would consider that only if Bernie changed his "negative tone."

This was the internet's response to her:

http://usuncut.com/news/tonedownforwhat-hillary-clinton-ny-debate/

bitch scared

Carpetbagging ho. Came here here get dat Wall Street money.

Seriously a bad move, especially in a state - NY no less! - where she served as Senator. Looks likes she scared, as you say, and that she's trying to hide something. Really, she's a piece of work.

[CJackson]

Bernie's and Hillary's respective campaigns came to an agreement about additional three debates just before the NH primary. There was the one right before the NH, there is supposed to be one in March and then one after that (I forget when exactly). Bernie wants to debate in New York just before the NY primary on April 19. Hillary responded that she would consider that only if Bernie changed his "negative tone."

This was the internet's response to her:

http://usuncut.com/news/tonedownforwhat-hillary-clinton-ny-debate/

bitch scared

Carpetbagging ho. Came here here get dat Wall Street money.

Seriously a bad move, especially in a state - NY no less! - where she served as Senator. Looks likes she scared, as you say, and that she's trying to hide something. Really, she's a piece of work.

bernie is the only honest man on either side. still dont buy that she is the stronger candidate. the dem party has done everything it could to rig this and bernie was basically unknown to most people and hes still on the trail making noise. look at his rallies. trump is not the only one who pulls a crowd

[HarthorneWingo]

bitch scared

Carpetbagging ho. Came here here get dat Wall Street money.

Seriously a bad move, especially in a state - NY no less! - where she served as Senator. Looks likes she scared, as you say, and that she's trying to hide something. Really, she's a piece of work.

bernie is the only honest man on either side. still dont buy that she is the stronger candidate. the dem party has done everything it could to rig this and bernie was basically unknown to most people and hes still on the trail making noise. look at his rallies. trump is not the only one who pulls a crowd

Agreed.

As for Trump, where else can one go to hear a candidate for the presidency of the United States of America discuss the size of his penis? I'd go just for the shear entertainment value except I'm afraid of getting caught in some crossfire.

[CJackson]

Carpetbagging ho. Came here here get dat Wall Street money.

Seriously a bad move, especially in a state - NY no less! - where she served as Senator. Looks likes she scared, as you say, and that she's trying to hide something. Really, she's a piece of work.

bernie is the only honest man on either side. still dont buy that she is the stronger candidate. the dem party has done everything it could to rig this and bernie was basically unknown to most people and hes still on the trail making noise. look at his rallies. trump is not the only one who pulls a crowd

Agreed.

As for Trump, where else can one go to hear a candidate for the presidency of the United States of America discuss the size of his penis? I'd go just for the shear entertainment value except I'm afraid of getting caught in some crossfire.

someone is going to die at his rallies but dont worry trump will foot the legal bills for the shooter

[Capn'O]

The wheels on the bus are... falling off...

http://www.xojane.com/issues/stephanie-cegielski-donald-trump-campaign-defector

An Open Letter to Trump Voters from His Top Strategist-Turned-Defector

I don't think even Trump thought he would get this far. And I don’t even know that he wanted to, which is perhaps the scariest prospect of all.

He certainly was never prepared or equipped to go all the way to the White House, but his ego has now taken over the driver's seat, and nothing else matters. The Donald does not fail. The Donald does not have any weakness. The Donald is his own biggest enemy.

I consider myself a part of the silent majority that led to Trump’s rise, which is why I want you to know that I am with you — I wanted Trump to be real, too.

He is not.

He even says so himself. His misogyny? That’s the character.

His presidential candidacy? That’s a character, too.

The problem with characters is they are the stuff of soap operas and sitcoms and reality competitions — not political legacies.

Trump made me believe. Until I woke up. And he has no problem abusing your support the same way he cheated hard-working men and women out of millions of dollars, for which he is now being sued.

[thebuzzardman]

The wheels on the bus are... falling off...

http://www.xojane.com/issues/stephanie-cegielski-donald-trump-campaign-defector

An Open Letter to Trump Voters from His Top Strategist-Turned-Defector

I don't think even Trump thought he would get this far. And I don’t even know that he wanted to, which is perhaps the scariest prospect of all.

He certainly was never prepared or equipped to go all the way to the White House, but his ego has now taken over the driver's seat, and nothing else matters. The Donald does not fail. The Donald does not have any weakness. The Donald is his own biggest enemy.

I consider myself a part of the silent majority that led to Trump’s rise, which is why I want you to know that I am with you — I wanted Trump to be real, too.

He is not.

He even says so himself. His misogyny? That’s the character.

His presidential candidacy? That’s a character, too.

The problem with characters is they are the stuff of soap operas and sitcoms and reality competitions — not political legacies.

Trump made me believe. Until I woke up. And he has no problem abusing your support the same way he cheated hard-working men and women out of millions of dollars, for which he is now being sued.

None of his supporters care because they are pissed off at status quo politicians (they should be) so they have filled up the empty vessel of trump with their hopes and dreams, regardless of reality. Since fantasy trumps (pun intended) reality, the linked article will be blissfully disregarded by Trump supporters. He is our next president.

Hillary doesn't get elected for the same reasons Trump is popular and Bernie can't overcome 50 years of bi-partisan cold war rhetoric that helped to equate anything vaguely socialistic with the "Red Menace", regardless of the fact that most if not all of the people who still spout that BS have probably collected unemployment and/or will/have cashed social security cheques. Add another 20 years of Republican dogma to the cold war BS and Bernie can't get elected as Dogcatcher Of The USA.

At least we'll have a president will will tell Kim Jong Il II he has a small dick. Then ol Kim will probably nuke Seoul with one of those TaepoDONG-2 missiles to show Trump who's packing.

[machu46]

Obviously Bernie's side will argue that Hillary is scared and that's why she won't do the debate, but on the flipside, what does she stand to gain from debating him in New York? The latest poll showed her up by almost 50%. She has nowhere to go but down and some sort of humiliating debate in New York is likely Bernie's only chance at making New York a respectable race. You don't really need debates anymore when you have the lead that she has.

[HarthorneWingo]

Obviously Bernie's side will argue that Hillary is scared and that's why she won't do the debate, but on the flipside, what does she stand to gain from debating him in New York? The latest poll showed her up by almost 50%. She has nowhere to go but down and some sort of humiliating debate in New York is likely Bernie's only chance at making New York a respectable race. You don't really need debates anymore when you have the lead that she has.

Yep, that's one of the reasons.

[Knicks_Fan2]

No competent campaign manager would let Hillary debate Bernie again. It would be like Bargnani shooting that three against Milwaukee when we could've just ran out the clock. The contest is over.

[Rasho Brezec]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeOkybuCXX0[/youtube]

[machu46]

No competent campaign manager would let Hillary debate Bernie again. It would be like Bargnani shooting that three against Milwaukee when we could've just ran out the clock. The contest is over.

Lmao, I (Bucks fan) was watching that game with my roommate (Knicks fan) and we were just going nuts during that sequence.

[HarthorneWingo]

No competent campaign manager would let Hillary debate Bernie again. It would be like Bargnani shooting that three against Milwaukee when we could've just ran out the clock. The contest is over.

On her home turf? Please. It makes her look weak if she doesn't.

It'll happen.

[Butch718]

No competent campaign manager would let Hillary debate Bernie again. It would be like Bargnani shooting that three against Milwaukee when we could've just ran out the clock. The contest is over.

On her home turf? Please. It makes her look weak if she doesn't.

It'll happen.

I personally think these debates are meaningless at this point. There's nothing that Hillary can say that will change my mind about supporting Bernie, and I'm sure it's vice versa for most Hillary supporters.

And it's ironic because I remember Hillary asking for more debates when she was behind against Obama in 08. It's just the nature of the game when one candidate is behind. I personally won't hold it against her if she doesn't debate Bernie.

[HarthorneWingo]

No competent campaign manager would let Hillary debate Bernie again. It would be like Bargnani shooting that three against Milwaukee when we could've just ran out the clock. The contest is over.

On her home turf? Please. It makes her look weak if she doesn't.

It'll happen.

I personally think these debates are meaningless at this point. There's nothing that Hillary can say that will change my mind about supporting Bernie, and I'm sure it's vice versa for most Hillary supporters.

And it's ironic because I remember Hillary asking for more debates when she was behind against Obama in 08. It's just the nature of the game when one candidate is behind. I personally won't hold it against her if she doesn't debate Bernie.

Yeah, but you and I are a different breed than the casual voter who may only check in when it's time to vote in their state.

EDIT:

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-03-29/clinton-perfectly-willing-to-debate-sanders-in-new-york-aide-says

Clinton 'Perfectly Willing' to Debate Sanders in New York, Aide Says
The Democratic front-runner's press secretary Brian Fallon said the debate "could happen."
Jennifer Epstein
March 29, 2016 — 6:20 PM EDT

Responding to calls from rival Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton is "perfectly willing" to debate with him in New York, her press secretary said on Tuesday.

On Bloomberg Television's "With All Due Respect," Brian Fallon said the former New York senator was open to holding a debate before the April 19 primary somewhere in the Empire State.

"If they can find a mutually agreeable date in the next couple of weeks before New York, I think it could happen," Fallon said. Asked by co-host Mark Halperin if there's a downside to debating in New York, Fallon responded: "I don't think so."

-more-

[Capn'O]

The wheels on the bus are... falling off...

http://www.xojane.com/issues/stephanie-cegielski-donald-trump-campaign-defector

An Open Letter to Trump Voters from His Top Strategist-Turned-Defector

I don't think even Trump thought he would get this far. And I don’t even know that he wanted to, which is perhaps the scariest prospect of all.

He certainly was never prepared or equipped to go all the way to the White House, but his ego has now taken over the driver's seat, and nothing else matters. The Donald does not fail. The Donald does not have any weakness. The Donald is his own biggest enemy.

I consider myself a part of the silent majority that led to Trump’s rise, which is why I want you to know that I am with you — I wanted Trump to be real, too.

He is not.

He even says so himself. His misogyny? That’s the character.

His presidential candidacy? That’s a character, too.

The problem with characters is they are the stuff of soap operas and sitcoms and reality competitions — not political legacies.

Trump made me believe. Until I woke up. And he has no problem abusing your support the same way he cheated hard-working men and women out of millions of dollars, for which he is now being sued.

None of his supporters care because they are pissed off at status quo politicians (they should be) so they have filled up the empty vessel of trump with their hopes and dreams, regardless of reality. Since fantasy trumps (pun intended) reality, the linked article will be blissfully disregarded by Trump supporters. He is our next president.

Hillary doesn't get elected for the same reasons Trump is popular and Bernie can't overcome 50 years of bi-partisan cold war rhetoric that helped to equate anything vaguely socialistic with the "Red Menace", regardless of the fact that most if not all of the people who still spout that BS have probably collected unemployment and/or will/have cashed social security cheques. Add another 20 years of Republican dogma to the cold war BS and Bernie can't get elected as Dogcatcher Of The USA.

At least we'll have a president will will tell Kim Jong Il II he has a small dick. Then ol Kim will probably nuke Seoul with one of those TaepoDONG-2 missiles to show Trump who's packing.

Nah. He's gonna get smoked. The major parties have finally wizened up and started attacking him on his "platform" in addition to beating down the racism drum. He'll keep his Rebel Without A Cause base now but anyone that follows/understands the game at all will lose interest. At the end of the day, I think he will too. I really don't think he wants the job. Just the attention.

Real talk though - the Dogcatcher line has me in stitches every time.

[NYKnicksTAPE]

Hillary and Bernie need to have this debate, and I hope she gets waxed if they do end up having one

[aq_ua]

It would be very interesting how an anti-Wall Street position goes over in a New York debate.

[CJackson]

It would be very interesting how an anti-Wall Street position goes over in a New York debate.

trust fund babies like to think they are radical so you never know