Oklahoma City Thunder Regular Season Thread: Part IV

NaturalThunder · Post #1481 » by **NaturalThunder** » Sun Apr 3, 2016 10:06 pm

That's what I get for watching. When I decide to watch entire games we lose or almost lose to a team without their four best players.

NaturalThunder · Post #1482 » by **NaturalThunder** » Sun Apr 3, 2016 10:07 pm

Durant + Westbrook = 14 turnovers and 11 assists

Pillendreher · Post #1483 » by **Pillendreher** » Sun Apr 3, 2016 10:07 pm

Now he puts in Morrow. Such an amateur.

KD35Brah · Post #1484 » by **KD35Brah** » Sun Apr 3, 2016 10:09 pm

6 turnovers by Durant and Russ with 8

The spacing on this team is laughable. We;'re kidding ourselves thinking Durant is staying here.

Pillendreher · Post #1485 » by **Pillendreher** » Sun Apr 3, 2016 10:11 pm

KD35Brah wrote:6 turnovers by Durant and Russ with 8

The spacing on this team is laughable. We;'re kidding ourselves thinking Durant is staying here.

If only we had another point guard.

Cuban_Linx · Post #1486 » by **Cuban_Linx** » Sun Apr 3, 2016 10:13 pm

NaturalThunder wrote:We went through the motions for way too much of this game, especially in the 1st half. We have virtually nothing to play for and the Rockets are fighting like hell for their playoff lives. But man, I hate losing to the Rockets.

But we still had the game in hand in the 4th. For the millionth time this season tho we just completely implode as soon as crunch time comes up and give up a 15-2 run.

That's just embarrassing this deep in the season and there's no way this is gonna turn around all of a sudden in the playoffs. I was fine when it looked like this was just gonna be a loss because we didn't care, but the guys actually did care when the game was in reach and just choked it away like we've been doing all season. Pathetic. We actually have a negative differential in the 4th this year. We're probably the first 55+ win team do that in a long while

Pillendreher · Post #1487 » by **Pillendreher** » Sun Apr 3, 2016 10:44 pm

NetRtG per quarter this season:

1Q: +11,7 (3rd league wide)
2Q: +6,4 (4th league wide)
3Q: +10,5 (2nd league wide)
4Q: - 1,4 (20th league wide)

Marcus50 · Post #1488 » by **Marcus50** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 1:24 am

The real negative of this loss to Huston was that OKC was out hustled. The Houston team were desperate and OKC was not desperate enough. Houston scrambled for the loose ball with much more energy and purpose. The loss was not a disaster and the problem can be fixed but the reality is it has happened to often this season. Its hard to pick whether it was lethargy or whether the team still struggle with Donovan's defensive system when put under the blow torch. Hopefully it was just an off day

spearsy23 · Post #1489 » by **spearsy23** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 3:10 am

Marcus50 wrote:The real negative of this loss to Huston was that OKC was out hustled. The Houston team were desperate and OKC was not desperate enough. Houston scrambled for the loose ball with much more energy and purpose. The loss was not a disaster and the problem can be fixed but the reality is it has happened to often this season. Its hard to pick whether it was lethargy or whether the team still struggle with Donovan's defensive system when put under the blow torch. Hopefully it was just an off day

Houston is still playing for something and we really aren't. Not real surprising to see them give more effort.

Old Man Game · Post #1490 » by **Old Man Game** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 4:23 am

Didn't get to watch all of the game (family get together). Tried to listen to the second half driving home. Sounded like we just got obliterated on the glass. Anything else?

Old Man Game · Post #1491 » by **Old Man Game** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 4:25 am

Pillendreher wrote:NetRtG per quarter this season:

1Q: +11,7 (3rd league wide)
2Q: +6,4 (4th league wide)
3Q: +10,5 (2nd league wide)
4Q: - 1,4 (20th league wide)

Unreal.
Love those European commas instead of periods for decimal points by the way :-)

Pillendreher · Post #1492 » by **Pillendreher** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 10:09 am

NetRtG for teams in the 4th quarter in losses:

http://stats.nba.com/league/team/#!/advanced/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4&Outcome=L&sort=NET_RATING&dir=1

-25 (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!). This is unreal.

Pillendreher · Post #1493 » by **Pillendreher** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 11:33 am

Old Man Game · Post #1494 » by **Old Man Game** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 11:43 am

Wonder what those numbers looked like during Brooks' tenure here?

Pillendreher · Post #1495 » by **Pillendreher** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 12:14 pm

Old Man Game wrote:Wonder what those numbers looked like during Brooks' tenure here?

I only did 2012-2014:

Bergmaniac · Post #1496 » by **Bergmaniac** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 12:15 pm

How many more times is this supposed to happen before Donovan realises that his late-game offensive "scheme" aka "Waste 15 seconds of the shot clock trying to get the ball to Durant at all costs in a tough position and then get out of the way" is not working?

But the late game defense seems to be an even bigger problem. Brooks' Thunder also had this problem offensively sometimes, but they usually made up for it with really solid late game defense. This Thunder team seem to play its worst defense towards the end of close games for some reason.

Old Man Game · Post #1497 » by **Old Man Game** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 12:38 pm

Pillendreher wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:Wonder what those numbers looked like during Brooks' tenure here?

I only did 2012-2014:

Wow. So something definitely isn't working. Whether its Billy's lineups or Sam's players is hard to say.

Post #1498 » by **bondom34** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 1:42 pm

Old Man Game wrote:Wow. So something definitely isn't working. Whether its Billy's lineups or Sam's players is hard to say.

Its a mix of lineups and just underperforming (unless there's another issue). On one hand the lineups are just bad (the starters w/ Kanter and Dion stink whenever they play, the no PG lineup does too, and both see more 4th quarter time than any other I'm pretty sure). The starters have a D rating of 140 in the fourth quarter, so something's up there. Between that and Kanter playing a fair amount late game, I'm going to guess its lineups and whatever the deal is with execution. Sometimes its not on anyone but the players.

Pillendreher · Post #1499 » by **Pillendreher** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 1:48 pm

I've taken a look at the lineups we use in the 4th quarter and I think the sheer number of lineups for our 9 to 11 man rotation is insane: The Thunder have used 202 (!!!) different lineups in 4th quarters. In comparison:

2011/2012: 111
2012/2013: 123
2013/2014: 157
2014/2015: 250 (injuries...)

Post #1500 » by **bondom34** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 1:50 pm

That's probably not helping either. Just keep tossing random lineups out there coach.