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I wonder why Kostas hasn't been invited to any national Greek junior team. He can't be worse than some of the kids that go there.
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Will we need to draft Kostas so Giannis stays too?
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There are a few websites posting this dunk. It's going slightly viral.
How awesome is it to see LBJ looking up and watching as Giannis dunks next to him.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/04/watch-giannis-antetokounmpo-dunk
Giannis Antetokounmpo’s length and athleticism will never stop being amazing.
I’ve watched this dunk from Tuesday’s game against the Cavaliers at least 40 times, and I can’t get over how crazy this is. Basically, it’s flabbergasting. Completely and utterly flabbergasting.
Count the number of dribbles Antetokounmpo needed to navigate from the 3-point line to the rim. It should be easy because that number is zero. He essentially needed one step to go 22 feet, and he jumped from a few feet inside the free-throw line.
Also, Gus Johnson is the perfect announcer for Antetokounmpo. That needed to be said.
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Most TRIPLE DOUBLES before turning 22 years old:
http://hoopshype.com/2016/04/02/giannis-antetokounmpo-has-had-five-triple-doubles-in-the-last-six-weeks/
LBJ: 9
ODOM: 7
Giannis: 5
Chris Paul: 3
Antoine Walker: 3
Giannis turns 22 Dec 6th 2016. He has 4 games left this season, he could possibly get 1 more since he has been averaging 1 TD every 4.8games since ASB. He also could have ROUGHLY 20 games next season before DEC 6th, which if he maintains 1 TD every 5 games, would give him 4 more.
So if he continues at his current pace could have another 4-5 TD's before he reaches Dec 6th. It is conceivable he could tie or beat LBJ's record.
http://hoopshype.com/2016/04/02/giannis-antetokounmpo-has-had-five-triple-doubles-in-the-last-six-weeks/
LBJ: 9
ODOM: 7
Giannis: 5
Chris Paul: 3
Antoine Walker: 3
Giannis turns 22 Dec 6th 2016. He has 4 games left this season, he could possibly get 1 more since he has been averaging 1 TD every 4.8games since ASB. He also could have ROUGHLY 20 games next season before DEC 6th, which if he maintains 1 TD every 5 games, would give him 4 more.
So if he continues at his current pace could have another 4-5 TD's before he reaches Dec 6th. It is conceivable he could tie or beat LBJ's record.
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yannisk wrote:I wonder why Kostas hasn't been invited to any national Greek junior team. He can't be worse than some of the kids that go there.
He is invited this year
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Giannis will be one of the greatest players in the NBA ever!
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http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2016/04/giannis_antetokounmpo_wants_to.html
As long as it is all on the court, this would be amazing for him. Don't need Lebron bringing some drama into Giannis's life.
As long as it is all on the court, this would be amazing for him. Don't need Lebron bringing some drama into Giannis's life.
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HKPackFan wrote:Most TRIPLE DOUBLES before turning 22 years old:
http://hoopshype.com/2016/04/02/giannis-antetokounmpo-has-had-five-triple-doubles-in-the-last-six-weeks/
LBJ: 9
ODOM: 7
Giannis: 5
Chris Paul: 3
Antoine Walker: 3
Giannis turns 22 Dec 6th 2016. He has 4 games left this season, he could possibly get 1 more since he has been averaging 1 TD every 4.8games since ASB. He also could have ROUGHLY 20 games next season before DEC 6th, which if he maintains 1 TD every 5 games, would give him 4 more.
So if he continues at his current pace could have another 4-5 TD's before he reaches Dec 6th. It is conceivable he could tie or beat LBJ's record.
I believe Magic holds that record (he's not on that list because BasketballRef doesn't have pre '83 numbers for triple doubles afaik).
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I think the most impressive play was Giannis in 3rd stranded ten feet from ten basketball deciding to try to dunk from there flat footed. He almost made it
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So Chuck and Wickett were talking this morning, and someone tweeted that they wouldn't trade Giannis for Durant, which Wickett called idiotic.
Then went on to talk about how many points Durant scores and was fixated that Durant won and MVP and Giannis never would, which is why it ridiculous that anyone wouldn't trade Giannis for Durant.
Bart tried to chime in that it was not ridiculous that someone could think Giannis could have a Durant type career, to which Wickett scoffed again. I found this entire discussion very annoying, because I would not trade Giannis for Durant. And I get that is a big statement, but I would trade 21 year old Giannis for 21 year old Durant, but Durant will be 28 next year and signed to a mega contract.
I'm not sure what Giannis becomes, but I am honestly at a point, where I don't think there is a single player that I would trade him for in the league. He has become the most unique player in the league, with arguably the highest upside of any player in the league right now over the next 5 years. It is conceivable (though unlikely) he could be the best player in the league at some point in his career.
I'm certainly not trading that for a LeBron, Durant, or even Anthony Davis. I'm certain their is homerism in my assessment and value of him, but there it is.
Then went on to talk about how many points Durant scores and was fixated that Durant won and MVP and Giannis never would, which is why it ridiculous that anyone wouldn't trade Giannis for Durant.
Bart tried to chime in that it was not ridiculous that someone could think Giannis could have a Durant type career, to which Wickett scoffed again. I found this entire discussion very annoying, because I would not trade Giannis for Durant. And I get that is a big statement, but I would trade 21 year old Giannis for 21 year old Durant, but Durant will be 28 next year and signed to a mega contract.
I'm not sure what Giannis becomes, but I am honestly at a point, where I don't think there is a single player that I would trade him for in the league. He has become the most unique player in the league, with arguably the highest upside of any player in the league right now over the next 5 years. It is conceivable (though unlikely) he could be the best player in the league at some point in his career.
I'm certainly not trading that for a LeBron, Durant, or even Anthony Davis. I'm certain their is homerism in my assessment and value of him, but there it is.
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I'm actually with you. At this point, the only two players I'd consider moving him for would be AD and KAT, and due to the fact that he's ours, and unique/intriguing as hell, I think I'd just keep him. I want to see what kind of silly **** he can do running PG for a full year with another off-season at his disposal. I mean, he's been an 18.9 ppg/8.7 rpg/7.5 apg/1.8 bpg/1.5 spg/.553 TS player for almost 1/3 of a season now, at age 21.
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Instead of working out with LeBron, I'd like to see him run with Chris Paul this summer to develop those PG skills. We're pretty lucky he has Jason Kidd to help him with that too.
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My commute to work is only 15 minutes in the morning and I caught the entire exchange. That was some of the worst radio in Chuck and Wickett's long history of terrible radio. I actually felt bad for that third voice guy. Chuck and Wickett just laughing at him. Another embarrassing indictment on our local radio.
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Are people really saying they wouldn't trade Giannis for Durant? If we're working under the idea that this a Durant who has just signed a long contract extension, not a 1 n 1 deal like I expect him too, then seriously why the hell wouldn't you?
Like freaking seriously? Durant is at worst the 4th best player in the league, depending on whether you rank Westbrook ahead of him, and we can only HOPE Giannis reaches that level. He allready has been the best player in the world. Giannis hasn't.
Don't get me wrong. I think Giannis stands a chance to get to that level. I really do. But this is homerism at its finest right here. If Durant goes to pretty much any team in the East they almost instantly become contenders to go to the finals and depending on which team it is they could stand more than a real chance of knocking off anyone that comes out of the West. Saying you wouldn't trade Giannis for Durant because you think he has a chance to be the best player in the world makes little sense to me. Durant has allready been at that level and if Curry ever hits a cold spell will stand a very good chance to be there again.
I seriously can't believe anyone said that they wouldn't do that trade. And I love Giannis! But damn guys
Like freaking seriously? Durant is at worst the 4th best player in the league, depending on whether you rank Westbrook ahead of him, and we can only HOPE Giannis reaches that level. He allready has been the best player in the world. Giannis hasn't.
Don't get me wrong. I think Giannis stands a chance to get to that level. I really do. But this is homerism at its finest right here. If Durant goes to pretty much any team in the East they almost instantly become contenders to go to the finals and depending on which team it is they could stand more than a real chance of knocking off anyone that comes out of the West. Saying you wouldn't trade Giannis for Durant because you think he has a chance to be the best player in the world makes little sense to me. Durant has allready been at that level and if Curry ever hits a cold spell will stand a very good chance to be there again.
I seriously can't believe anyone said that they wouldn't do that trade. And I love Giannis! But damn guys
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RRyder823 wrote:Are people really saying they wouldn't trade Giannis for Durant? If we're working under the idea that this a Durant who has just signed a long contract extension, not a 1 n 1 deal like I expect him too, then seriously why the hell wouldn't you?
Like freaking seriously? Durant is at worst the 4th best player in the league, depending on whether you rank Westbrook ahead of him, and we can only HOPE Giannis reaches that level. He allready has been the best player in the world. Giannis hasn't.
Don't get me wrong. I think Giannis stands a chance to get to that level. I really do. But this is homerism at its finest right here. If Durant goes to pretty much any team in the East they almost instantly become contenders to go to the finals and depending on which team it is they could stand more than a real chance of knocking off anyone that comes out of the West. Saying you wouldn't trade Giannis for Durant because you think he has a chance to be the best player in the world makes little sense to me. Durant has allready been at that level and if Curry ever hits a cold spell will stand a very good chance to be there again.
I seriously can't believe anyone said that. And I love Giannis! But damn guys
If you trade him for Durant, you still aren't winning a title without several other moves, given the age of the roster. A slightly big point you are simply overlooking. Giannis is looking like a guaranteed all-star, and very possible top 5 player. You have a major window with him given that he's 21. I mean, if we were likely to win a title by swapping the two, sure, but that isn't the case. We currently have the worst bench in the NBA arguably and one of the youngest teams.
It's actually a pretty easy decision. OKC can't win a title with him and Westbrook, yet the Bucks are going to with him and Middleton and a early 20's Parker? Sure.
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Curious who you have as #3 after LBJ, Steph before getting to KD and Russ?
I think it's very debateable. It's a classic youthful potential vs proven player. I think the original person brought it because it was so quickly dismissed as ridiculous by the radio folks when in reality it's really debatable, heck for a radio show they could have milked 10 minutes talking about it. Of course, KD is better now but he's what 8 years older, it's whether you prefer the last 6 years of KDs prime vs what Giannis could do for the next 12-15 years. could really argue either way.
I think it's very debateable. It's a classic youthful potential vs proven player. I think the original person brought it because it was so quickly dismissed as ridiculous by the radio folks when in reality it's really debatable, heck for a radio show they could have milked 10 minutes talking about it. Of course, KD is better now but he's what 8 years older, it's whether you prefer the last 6 years of KDs prime vs what Giannis could do for the next 12-15 years. could really argue either way.
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Just ignore the local sports talk guys. It's amazing to me how out-of-touch they are about the present NBA landscape, and sometimes just sports in general. Funny how all these middle-aged dolts are just now understanding the importance of a franchise needing to "rebuild" now that the Brewers are in full tear-down mode.
Yet, the hypocrisy and baseball/football favoritism shows when they pretentiously and rhetorically ask the question "When are the Bucks gonna start winning?" Guys like Chuck and Wickett would draft Buddy Hield #1 overall because "Look at those STATS!"
Yet, the hypocrisy and baseball/football favoritism shows when they pretentiously and rhetorically ask the question "When are the Bucks gonna start winning?" Guys like Chuck and Wickett would draft Buddy Hield #1 overall because "Look at those STATS!"
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LUKE23 wrote:RRyder823 wrote:Are people really saying they wouldn't trade Giannis for Durant? If we're working under the idea that this a Durant who has just signed a long contract extension, not a 1 n 1 deal like I expect him too, then seriously why the hell wouldn't you?
Like freaking seriously? Durant is at worst the 4th best player in the league, depending on whether you rank Westbrook ahead of him, and we can only HOPE Giannis reaches that level. He allready has been the best player in the world. Giannis hasn't.
Don't get me wrong. I think Giannis stands a chance to get to that level. I really do. But this is homerism at its finest right here. If Durant goes to pretty much any team in the East they almost instantly become contenders to go to the finals and depending on which team it is they could stand more than a real chance of knocking off anyone that comes out of the West. Saying you wouldn't trade Giannis for Durant because you think he has a chance to be the best player in the world makes little sense to me. Durant has allready been at that level and if Curry ever hits a cold spell will stand a very good chance to be there again.
I seriously can't believe anyone said that. And I love Giannis! But damn guys
It's not homerism at all. If you trade him for Durant, you still aren't winning a title without several other moves, given the age of the roster. A slightly big point you are simply overlooking. Giannis is looking like a guaranteed all-star, and very possible top 5 player. You have a major window with him given that he's 21. I mean, if we were likely to win a title by swapping the two, sure, but that isn't the case. We currently have the worst bench in the NBA arguably and one of the youngest teams.
It's actually a pretty easy decision. OKC can't win a title with him and Westbrook, yet the Bucks are going to with him and Middleton and a early 20's Parker? Sure.
Yeah, so that was part of my problem...Durant is on the backside of his prime, and unfortunately for him Steph Curry and even San Antonio appear to have more staying power...Couple the fact that Lebron is probably due for another Championship and your window with Durant is TINY.
Second that he already has Westbrook, Serge Ibaka, which as of today is better than what we have in Middleton and Parker. He isn't going to lift this team to a championship, it is still going to take time. Conversely, when Giannis is 25, Lebron will be 35 and probably have played the most career minutes in the history of the league by that age, Durant will be 31 and has already had some trouble staying healthy, Curry will be 32 and I have a hard team seeing that core sticking together once he finally gets paid.
So again, I am back to trading a 21 year old Durant for a 21 year old Giannis, but not a 27 year old Durant for a 21 year old Giannis. Plus it gives me 6 extra years of Giannis' career to enjoy the ride in seeing what he becomes. If he is never as good as Durant, so be it, but he has all the potential to do it, albeit a different type of player.
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RRyder823 wrote:Are people really saying they wouldn't trade Giannis for Durant? If we're working under the idea that this a Durant who has just signed a long contract extension, not a 1 n 1 deal like I expect him too, then seriously why the hell wouldn't you?
Like freaking seriously? Durant is at worst the 4th best player in the league, depending on whether you rank Westbrook ahead of him, and we can only HOPE Giannis reaches that level. He allready has been the best player in the world. Giannis hasn't.
Don't get me wrong. I think Giannis stands a chance to get to that level. I really do. But this is homerism at its finest right here. If Durant goes to pretty much any team in the East they almost instantly become contenders to go to the finals and depending on which team it is they could stand more than a real chance of knocking off anyone that comes out of the West. Saying you wouldn't trade Giannis for Durant because you think he has a chance to be the best player in the world makes little sense to me. Durant has allready been at that level and if Curry ever hits a cold spell will stand a very good chance to be there again.
I seriously can't believe anyone said that they wouldn't do that trade. And I love Giannis! But damn guys
You have to listen to the exchange to understand how bad it was. I personally wouldn't trade Giannis for Durant. Mostly due to 21 vs 27, and Giannis' story/personality. But I have no issues with anyone preferring Durant. None at all. In fact, I would expect that to be the majority opinion, even considering the age difference, especially nationally. But Chuck and Wickett were literally laughing out loud at this guy, throwing KD's "PPPGGGZZZZ" and "jump shooting ability" in his face as if thats the only thing that matters in basketball. Giannis, at 21, is a triple double threat every single time he steps on the floor. You can make an argument for either guy, and I understand 9/10 people would take KD without thinking, but to laugh down someone who prefers Giannis was embarrassing.












