Giannis' Development

AussieBuck · Post #981 » by **AussieBuck** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 7:02 am

No way to a Durant trade.

blazza18 · Post #982 » by **blazza18** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 7:30 am

You guys are nuts. But maybe kinda right.

We're all nuts.

Prince12 · Post #983 » by **Prince12** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 8:10 am

Put me in the wouldn't trade him for any single player basket.

HKPackFan · Post #984 » by **HKPackFan** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 8:23 am

You can build around point Giannis. He's a triple double threat every night. Hes close to being a 20/10/10/2/2 and hasn't even got his jump shot yet. I see no reason why his jump shot won't be falling in the next 12 to 18 months making him unstoppable. Oh and wouldn't he be like a junior in college? He's crazy young. He could be an MVP and destroying the league for a decade or so. He could be surrounded by the right role players and keep HCs up at night not knowing how to handle him.

He is as untradeable as it gets.

DutchManDanFan · Post #985 » by **DutchManDanFan** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 8:47 am

Celtics fans know what to think of Giannis now. Read their game and pg thread. It's a no brainer now. You don't trade him for anyone. Most important: he wants to stay long term.

With coach Kidd

Prince12 · Post #986 » by **Prince12** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 9:26 am

DutchManDanFan wrote:Celtics fans know what to think of Giannis now. Read their game and pg thread. It's a no brainer now. You don't trade him for anyone. Most important: he wants to stay long term.

With coach Kidd

I will have a read now. Im assuming its changed from last year when they wouldn't have traded Olynyk for Giannis :lol:

Prince12 · Post #987 » by **Prince12** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 9:35 am

Well not exactly, hardly a mention of him in the pg thread.

H2tObes · Post #988 » by **H2tObes** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 10:45 am

Put me in the "love him too much to trade him for anybody, even if wrong decision" category

RRyder823 · Post #989 » by **RRyder823** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 11:48 am

Milbuck wrote:Anyone else at times feel like Giannis is way, way ahead of his time? When I imagine what the ultimate goal of basketball is from an individual player perspective, I can't help but picture what I think is Giannis' max ceiling.

People always talk about players who can guard 1-5...but what about players who just ARE 1-5? Not just defense, but every facet of basketball? A player with the full capabilities of center (rim protection, rebounding, post game, post defense), the full capabilities of a point guard (ball handling, playmaking, game flow/tempo management, ability to defend guards), and everything in between. He's got a ways to go, the jumpshot being the main thing. But if he develops into a good shooter and continues his upward trend athletically to help defend smaller guards...is that not approaching the model of the ideal basketball player? Maybe it's the bud talking but I've just never seen a talent like Giannis and it's blowing my mind more and more each game.

Nope. Magic and Lebron were big players with ball handling skills that could and did play every position on the court depending on circumstance.

It's not a new concept. Just exceedingly rare to hit that level.

coolhandluke121 · Post #990 » by **coolhandluke121** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 12:10 pm

DutchManDanFan wrote:Celtics fans know what to think of Giannis now. Read their game and pg thread. It's a no brainer now. You don't trade him for anyone. Most important: he wants to stay long term.

With coach Kidd

And Steph wanted to play for Mark Jackson forever. Here's hoping Bucks ownership was taking notes on that.

Jez2983 · Post #991 » by **Jez2983** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 12:11 pm

RRyder823 wrote:
Milbuck wrote:Anyone else at times feel like Giannis is way, way ahead of his time? When I imagine what the ultimate goal of basketball is from an individual player perspective, I can't help but picture what I think is Giannis' max ceiling.

People always talk about players who can guard 1-5...but what about players who just ARE 1-5? Not just defense, but every facet of basketball? A player with the full capabilities of center (rim protection, rebounding, post game, post defense), the full capabilities of a point guard (ball handling, playmaking, game flow/tempo management, ability to defend guards), and everything in between. He's got a ways to go, the jumpshot being the main thing. But if he develops into a good shooter and continues his upward trend athletically to help defend smaller guards...is that not approaching the model of the ideal basketball player? Maybe it's the bud talking but I've just never seen a talent like Giannis and it's blowing my mind more and more each game.

Nope. Magic and Lebron were big players with ball handling skills that could and did play every position on the court depending on circumstance.

It's not a new concept. Just exceedingly rare to hit that level.

Happy to be corrected, but I feel like neither of those guys defended C's. And I mean like proper C's, like Giannis has.

Chapter29 · Post #992 » by **Chapter29** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 12:47 pm

I think Giannis is taking things to another level that even the great LBJ or Magic haven't done. He's simply taller and longer then those 2 guys. Making him even more of a rarity from a length/skill/athletic perspective. Hopefully one day he can be remotely in the same breath as an overall player as these 2.

RRyder823 · Post #993 » by **RRyder823** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 12:48 pm

Jez2983 wrote:
RRyder823 wrote:
Milbuck wrote:Anyone else at times feel like Giannis is way, way ahead of his time? When I imagine what the ultimate goal of basketball is from an individual player perspective, I can't help but picture what I think is Giannis' max ceiling.

People always talk about players who can guard 1-5...but what about players who just ARE 1-5? Not just defense, but every facet of basketball? A player with the full capabilities of center (rim protection, rebounding, post game, post defense), the full capabilities of a point guard (ball handling, playmaking, game flow/tempo management, ability to defend guards), and everything in between. He's got a ways to go, the jumpshot being the main thing. But if he develops into a good shooter and continues his upward trend athletically to help defend smaller guards...is that not approaching the model of the ideal basketball player? Maybe it's the bud talking but I've just never seen a talent like Giannis and it's blowing my mind more and more each game.

Nope. Magic and Lebron were big players with ball handling skills that could and did play every position on the court depending on circumstance.

It's not a new concept. Just exceedingly rare to hit that level.

Happy to be corrected, but I feel like neither of those guys defended C's. And I mean like proper C's, like Giannis has.

Well Magic did start at center in the Finals in a much better big men era

Jez2983 · Post #994 » by **Jez2983** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 1:00 pm

RRyder823 wrote:
Jez2983 wrote:
RRyder823 wrote:
Nope. Magic and Lebron were big players with ball handling skills that could and did play every position on the court depending on circumstance.

It's not a new concept. Just exceedingly rare to hit that level.

Happy to be corrected, but I feel like neither of those guys defended C's. And I mean like proper C's, like Giannis has.

Well Magic did start at center in the Finals in a much better big men era

Fair enough. Who was the opposing centre?

DutchManDanFan · Post #995 » by **DutchManDanFan** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 1:33 pm

Prince12 wrote:Well not exactly, hardly a mention of him in the pg thread.

Page 3:

Marvel wrote:My eyes just popped out my damn head on that move by Giannis.

Marvel wrote:
CelticsLV wrote:They have Antetokounmpo while we have freaking Olynyk...
**** Danny.

Homerclease wrote:Giannis is everywhere right now, kid is a phenom no doubt

Marvel wrote:Holey smokes it's Giannis vs the Celtics.

Page 5:

BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Giannis about to drop 60 on us if this **** keeps up. What the ****.

CrowderKeg wrote:Giannis with a 3-point shot is just unfair. Put in the Canadian Freak.

HaroldinGMinor · Post #996 » by **HaroldinGMinor** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 1:45 pm

No way do I trade Giannis for Durant. Maybe if the Bucks were like a three seed and on the cusp then I'd at least entertain the idea but given Giannis' age and contract I think you keep him.

RRyder823 · Post #997 » by **RRyder823** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 2:11 pm

Jez2983 wrote:
RRyder823 wrote:
Jez2983 wrote:
Happy to be corrected, but I feel like neither of those guys defended C's. And I mean like proper C's, like Giannis has.

Well Magic did start at center in the Finals in a much better big men era

Fair enough. Who was the opposing centre?

Honestly I'd have to look it up and and am just to lazy to do it.

DingleJerry · Post #998 » by **DingleJerry** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 2:20 pm

Well I think the assumption here is theoretical that KD would be signed to a long term deal where you don't have to worry about the contract issue.

Millbuck, all true. However, all the same could be said about LBJ 12 years ago so it's not like this is the first time it's been done.

pack15412 · Post #999 » by **pack15412** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 2:55 pm

Jez2983 wrote:
RRyder823 wrote:
Jez2983 wrote:
Happy to be corrected, but I feel like neither of those guys defended C's. And I mean like proper C's, like Giannis has.

Well Magic did start at center in the Finals in a much better big men era

Fair enough. Who was the opposing centre?

Chocolate Thunder. Darryl Dawkins

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198005160PHI.html

ETA

This guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtJawsitMsA

Jstock12 · Post #1000 » by **Jstock12** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 4:41 pm

Has Giannis stopped growing? What is he now? 7'1?