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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1441 » by Kabookalu » Thu Apr 7, 2016 5:45 pm

minimus wrote:
Choker wrote:He has great lower body strength (which is why he's a good post up player), though upper body strength is critical for rebounding, especially the biceps. Personally I've always found upper body strength overrated in basketball, but if there's one thing that it's vital for, it's rebounding.


well... it is more about positioning, box out techinique and willinges to do dirty work. but if you try to leak out for easy points or lose your concentration on defensive rebounds, then you probable wont get any rebound.


That's actually why I think upper body strength is overrated too, because the one thing that it's most useful for in basketball, can be compensated with good boxing out technique and a tenacity to grab the ball. Though for wing players, fighting for loose boards, when two players are jumping and battling for the rebound, the one with weaker upper body strength will be overpowered by the stronger one. And to secure the rebound and not lose it on the way down, great bicep strength is paramount.
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Re: RE: Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1442 » by minimus » Thu Apr 7, 2016 9:11 pm

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Choker wrote:He has great lower body strength (which is why he's a good post up player), though upper body strength is critical for rebounding, especially the biceps. Personally I've always found upper body strength overrated in basketball, but if there's one thing that it's vital for, it's rebounding.


well... it is more about positioning, box out techinique and willinges to do dirty work. but if you try to leak out for easy points or lose your concentration on defensive rebounds, then you probable wont get any rebound.


That's actually why I think upper body strength is overrated too, because the one thing that it's most useful for in basketball, can be compensated with good boxing out technique and a tenacity to grab the ball. Though for wing players, fighting for loose boards, when two players are jumping and battling for the rebound, the one with weaker upper body strength will be overpowered by the stronger one. And to secure the rebound and not lose it on the way down, great bicep strength is paramount.

Rubio is neither super strong nor explosive, but he is our best defensive rebounder on perimeter by far. Even Shabazz struggles to contribute here consistently.
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Re: RE: Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1443 » by Kabookalu » Thu Apr 7, 2016 9:24 pm

minimus wrote:
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minimus wrote:
well... it is more about positioning, box out techinique and willinges to do dirty work. but if you try to leak out for easy points or lose your concentration on defensive rebounds, then you probable wont get any rebound.


That's actually why I think upper body strength is overrated too, because the one thing that it's most useful for in basketball, can be compensated with good boxing out technique and a tenacity to grab the ball. Though for wing players, fighting for loose boards, when two players are jumping and battling for the rebound, the one with weaker upper body strength will be overpowered by the stronger one. And to secure the rebound and not lose it on the way down, great bicep strength is paramount.

Rubio is neither super strong nor explosive, but he is our best defensive rebounder on perimeter by far. Even Shabazz struggles to contribute here consistently.


I'd say Rubio is the exception. Some players like Rubio and Curry have a great nose for the ball.




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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1444 » by Klomp » Fri Apr 8, 2016 12:04 am

For some people, added strength could make them more willing to claw and scratch for the tough rebounds
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1445 » by wolves_89 » Fri Apr 8, 2016 6:21 am

From watching the Wolves the biggest problem with Wiggins rebounding looks to be his lack of good habits. Far too many times he just stands there after a shot goes up instead of moving into a position where a long rebound is likely to come. The other teams get a huge number of rebounds around the free throw line because the Wolves wing players are just standing on the perimeter (or in the case of Bazz crashing into the paint). The team needs to make actions like moving into rebounding position second nature to their young players.

The other thing I think Wiggins often lacks is the aggressiveness needed to be a good rebounder. When there is loose ball nearby Wiggins too often is slow to react and watches the other teams perimeter guys beat him to 50/50 balls.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1446 » by Klomp » Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:08 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/720740125303386112[/tweet]
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1447 » by Piecake » Fri Apr 15, 2016 8:47 pm

Klomp wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/720740125303386112[/tweet]


That is exactly what I want to hear.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1448 » by theGreatRC » Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:50 pm

Piecake wrote:
Klomp wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/720740125303386112[/tweet]


That is exactly what I want to hear.


Love hearing that too. Him becoming a better 3 point shooter + handle will make him unguardable.

Already elite at finishing through contact and getting And1s, spin move deadly, post game still coming along...if he had the handle to get to the rim or make defenders pay by giving him the 3 ball, there is no stopping him next year.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1449 » by Piecake » Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:13 pm

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Klomp wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/720740125303386112[/tweet]


That is exactly what I want to hear.


Love hearing that too. Him becoming a better 3 point shooter + handle will make him unguardable.

Already elite at finishing through contact and getting And1s, spin move deadly, post game still coming along...if he had the handle to get to the rim or make defenders pay by giving him the 3 ball, there is no stopping him next year.


I also really like him including play-making and passing in there. I thought he did do a better job at the end of finding the open man, but there is definite room for improvement because he really had a hero ball mindset in the beginning of the year that carried over throughout.

I don't think that is inherent in his personality. It is just that he was told to be more aggressive and be the man and this is how it turned out. Now he realizes that you can be the man and be aggressive while making the correct basketball play.

That tells me that he wants to be a complete player and doesn't think that being a complete player is just scoring a bunch of points. I find that very encouraging.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1450 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:36 am

He also might skip playing for the national team at the olympic qualifier this summer.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1451 » by Ferulci » Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:53 am

Klomp wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/720740125303386112[/tweet]

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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1452 » by Piecake » Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:58 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:He also might skip playing for the national team at the olympic qualifier this summer.


He should. He needs to work on and improve his game. Scrimmaging and playing games is not a good way to go about that.

To cover his butt, he can just say that he is confident that Canada can qualify without him (they should), so he feels like he will be more valuable to Canada during the Olympics if he spends this time getting as good as he can possibly be.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1453 » by guille_4 » Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:37 pm

I'm very positive about Wiggin's future.

Until now I feel like the coaching staff has been preparing him for the future on offense, focusing on improving his mid-range game instead of trying to make him play efficient basketball.

Next season Minnesota could potentially contend for the 8th play-off spot and he's gonna put in the work this summer.

Can't wait for next season to start. Fingers crossed for a injury-free 2016-2017 season!
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1454 » by Klomp » Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:31 am

• On Wiggins: “He impressed me the way he scored against us when I was still coaching. He made it look easy. I think the challenge — not only him but for his teammates — is there’s going to have to be dramatic improvement defensively. You have to make a commitment in that area. The players are too good in this league to guard individually. You need to have five-man defense in all aspects. If one guy’s not doing his job, the group is going to look bad.”

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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1455 » by marty264 » Sat Apr 23, 2016 6:24 pm

Pribably Wiggins' reaction to Thibs being hired.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1456 » by Crazy-Canuck » Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:25 am

Wiggins chanelling his inner kawhi leonard and getting his look down. Hopefully the all nba defense type game follows.

http://friendlybounce.com/2016/04/18/andrew-wiggins-apparently-has-cornrows-now/
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1457 » by Note30 » Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:07 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Wiggins chanelling his inner kawhi leonard and getting his look down. Hopefully the all nba defense type game follows.

http://friendlybounce.com/2016/04/18/andrew-wiggins-apparently-has-cornrows-now/


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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1458 » by theGreatRC » Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:40 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Wiggins chanelling his inner kawhi leonard and getting his look down. Hopefully the all nba defense type game follows.

http://friendlybounce.com/2016/04/18/andrew-wiggins-apparently-has-cornrows-now/


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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1459 » by vtime » Wed May 4, 2016 9:14 pm

Can Wiggins start at the 4?
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1460 » by Foye » Wed May 4, 2016 9:41 pm

vtime wrote:Can Wiggins start at the 4?


No.

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