ECSF: | (3) Miami Heat vs (2) Toronto Raptors | TOR 2-1

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Series Predictions

Heat in 4
20
3%
Heat in 5
53
9%
Heat in 6
193
31%
Heat in 7
32
5%
Raptors in 4
33
5%
Raptors in 5
19
3%
Raptors in 6
143
23%
Raptors in 7
125
20%
 
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Re: ECSF: | (3) Miami Heat vs (2) Toronto Raptors | TOR 2-1 

Post#2321 » by DowJones » Sun May 8, 2016 12:17 pm

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mattkobe1984 wrote:Honestly the heat haven't accomplished anything to be talking like they are a top notch organisation like the lakers.

This raps team are young and with a lot of good assets moving forward including a high draft pick this year, I also wish the cavs good luck in this year run because Lebron is hell of a player, as well as wade.

You just don't know with the right pieces added Toronto can be really dangerous in the next 5 years. I would think many stars wouldn't mind too much to play alongside Jonas val, the kid is so young still


So 3 championships and numerous ECF appearances is not an accomplishment. Using that metric 90 percent of the teams in the NBA have accomplished nothing, including the raptors. You're talking nonsense dude.


LeBron. Seriously....LeBron. Then you have the time Shaq forced his way to Miami.
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Post#2322 » by mademan » Sun May 8, 2016 12:18 pm

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mowcrowbar wrote:I mean, Wade should be thanking Canada for this invention, and to Naismith. Who knows what he would be doing without this sport?


Prolly football, or hockey, or soccer. Doesnt really matter, 6'4 super athletes are rare as hell, he would have excelled in any number of sports


Soccer? Hockey? :lol: unlikely.


Why? If he grew up playing either of those sports, he'd have a giant leg up on all of his competitors.
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Re: ECSF: | (3) Miami Heat vs (2) Toronto Raptors | TOR 2-1 

Post#2323 » by Dupp » Sun May 8, 2016 12:19 pm

DowJones wrote:
wicked_j wrote:
mattkobe1984 wrote:Honestly the heat haven't accomplished anything to be talking like they are a top notch organisation like the lakers.

This raps team are young and with a lot of good assets moving forward including a high draft pick this year, I also wish the cavs good luck in this year run because Lebron is hell of a player, as well as wade.

You just don't know with the right pieces added Toronto can be really dangerous in the next 5 years. I would think many stars wouldn't mind too much to play alongside Jonas val, the kid is so young still


So 3 championships and numerous ECF appearances is not an accomplishment. Using that metric 90 percent of the teams in the NBA have accomplished nothing, including the raptors. You're talking nonsense dude.


LeBron. Seriously....LeBron. Then you have the time Shaq forced his way to Miami.


Does it matter who was on the team or how they got there? They won championships, they are a successful and well run franchise.
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Post#2324 » by DowJones » Sun May 8, 2016 12:23 pm

This series is still up for grabs. These 2 teams are about even. I think Miami eventually wins because I don't think they will ever shoot as poorly from 3 as they did yesterday. Guys like JJ and Deng wil hit their shots.
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Post#2325 » by cammac » Sun May 8, 2016 12:23 pm

The Raptors will improve as the playoffs progress Lowry is back to being himself and DeMar is showing signs of returning to form. Hopefully JVs ankle injury is minor and that Whiteside's injury is less serious than it looks last thing any true NBA fan should want is a injury to the opposition. There is a reason the Raptors won 56 games and are improved with the return of Carroll. That isn't to denigrate another team who might get fire in a bottle like Miami did with Wade last night.

Cleveland will be a tough team but both the Heat and the Raptors won't be pushovers that many think since Cleveland has had little opposition so far. I doubt they have the ability to sweep either team and will likely be at least a 6 game series.
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Post#2326 » by mademan » Sun May 8, 2016 12:25 pm

DowJones wrote:This series is still up for grabs. These 2 teams are about even. I think Miami eventually wins because I don't think they will ever shoot as poorly from 3 as they did yesterday. Guys like JJ and Deng wil hit their shots.


They also probably wont shoot as well as their only win (70+%)
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Post#2327 » by Green Backpack » Sun May 8, 2016 12:31 pm

Wade won't get suspended. It's the playoffs and it's Dwyane Wade... that would be a horrible marketing move by the NBA.

I'm sure he won't be shooting during the anthems next game though.
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Post#2328 » by Spicy P » Sun May 8, 2016 12:33 pm

Dupp wrote:So raptors get the lead in the series after being pretty awful all playoffs and a large number of their fans come out and start talking so much trash... You know you could still lose the series right? Theres a reason most people root against the raptors....


I guess you missed all the pages of Heat fans and neutral fans talking trash from before the series started up until the start of game 3? I'm not participating in this, but I think it's justified after all that's happened in this game thread.
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Post#2329 » by mowcrowbar » Sun May 8, 2016 12:38 pm

mademan wrote:
mowcrowbar wrote:
mademan wrote:
Prolly football, or hockey, or soccer. Doesnt really matter, 6'4 super athletes are rare as hell, he would have excelled in any number of sports


Soccer? Hockey? :lol: unlikely.


Why? If he grew up playing either of those sports, he'd have a giant leg up on all of his competitors.


Doubt it. Just look at the statistics. Wade is too tall and long to dominate in soccer, unlike Ibrah, of course, and when has the US ever produced a dominate player? As for hockey, statistically very little interest for African American athletes.
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Post#2330 » by whysoserious » Sun May 8, 2016 12:42 pm

Dupp wrote:So raptors get the lead in the series after being pretty awful all playoffs and a large number of their fans come out and start talking so much trash... You know you could still lose the series right? Theres a reason most people root against the raptors....


I don't see much trash talk here from Raps fans and if there is any it's purely in reaction to the cocky Heat fans (not all) that were posting as if this series was going to be so easy.

Most real fans of either team can really see that these teams are pretty much evenly matched and playing a close grind out game. All three games have come down to the wire with two overtime games. Raps could have just as easily lost both home games or won both home games. This series is pretty close.
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Post#2331 » by mademan » Sun May 8, 2016 12:42 pm

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Soccer? Hockey? :lol: unlikely.


Why? If he grew up playing either of those sports, he'd have a giant leg up on all of his competitors.


Doubt it. Just look at the statistics. Wade is too tall and long to dominate in soccer, unlike Ibrah, of course, and when has the US ever produced a dominate player? As for hockey, statistically very little interest for African American athletes.


Youre talking about a world without basketball. Im saying he would be playing one of those sports from childhood and would dominate. And yes, he'd be an all world soccer player if he trained early. You cant teach size/speed/strength/agility
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Post#2332 » by LookToShoot » Sun May 8, 2016 12:43 pm

The Raptors will wrap up this series in 6, although the Heat stand a better chance against the Cavs.
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Post#2333 » by Rustyman » Sun May 8, 2016 12:44 pm

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Why are they even playing the Canadian anthem? Like who cares? Wade is there trying to focus on winning the game, the last thing on his mind is the Canadian Anthem. Its not even disrespect, he's just not even thinking about it. I wouldn't be either.

Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf got suspended for not standing during the US National Anthem.


And Dion Waiters wasn't for sitting in the locker room. Also, it says in the rule book players must stand for the national anthem, not national anthems. I think what Wade did was not classy, but I'm not so sure it was against the rules. National anthem, in the rules context as a singular item, is probably the US anthem and not the Canadian one.


What an stupid comment! So only the US anthem counts, no other? You should get out more.
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Post#2334 » by whysoserious » Sun May 8, 2016 12:49 pm

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C3H6N6O6 wrote:
I_Never Lied wrote:
Why are they even playing the Canadian anthem? Like who cares? Wade is there trying to focus on winning the game, the last thing on his mind is the Canadian Anthem. Its not even disrespect, he's just not even thinking about it. I wouldn't be either.

Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf got suspended for not standing during the US National Anthem.


And Dion Waiters wasn't for sitting in the locker room. Also, it says in the rule book players must stand for the national anthem, not national anthems. I think what Wade did was not classy, but I'm not so sure it was against the rules. National anthem, in the rules context as a singular item, is probably the US anthem and not the Canadian one.


That is some serious legal maneuvering there. Obviously rules written before Canadian teams existed but now that they do, the rule likely applies to both anthems. TBH, I don't know that it's a suspendible offense, but you did agree that it was not classy and I think Wade should be called out by the media on both sides for it. If someone did that to the American anthem they'd be ripped apart by the American media.

Abdul-Raouf is a bad example because if i recall correctly he did it for political reasons to stand and say something and was prepared to take a fine or suspension for his actions. Wade was just being a douche take shots instead of lining up and showing respect.
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Post#2335 » by mowcrowbar » Sun May 8, 2016 12:52 pm

mademan wrote:
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Why? If he grew up playing either of those sports, he'd have a giant leg up on all of his competitors.


Doubt it. Just look at the statistics. Wade is too tall and long to dominate in soccer, unlike Ibrah, of course, and when has the US ever produced a dominate player? As for hockey, statistically very little interest for African American athletes.


Youre talking about a world without basketball. Im saying he would be playing one of those sports from childhood and would dominate. And yes, he'd be an all world soccer player if he trained early. You cant teach size/speed/strength/agility


Size isn't a positive in soccer, as I told you. But I'd imagine he'd be a great baseball or football player for sure if he trained at it.
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Post#2336 » by mademan » Sun May 8, 2016 1:08 pm

mowcrowbar wrote:
mademan wrote:
mowcrowbar wrote:
Doubt it. Just look at the statistics. Wade is too tall and long to dominate in soccer, unlike Ibrah, of course, and when has the US ever produced a dominate player? As for hockey, statistically very little interest for African American athletes.


Youre talking about a world without basketball. Im saying he would be playing one of those sports from childhood and would dominate. And yes, he'd be an all world soccer player if he trained early. You cant teach size/speed/strength/agility


Size isn't a positive in soccer, as I told you. But I'd imagine he'd be a great baseball or football player for sure if he trained at it.


Agree to disagree. I think if the best athletes in the US decided to play soccer instead of basketball/football, the game of soccer would be revolutionized with 6'2+ athletic freaks
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Post#2337 » by RELL_MARLEE » Sun May 8, 2016 1:17 pm

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Post#2338 » by BayArea408415 » Sun May 8, 2016 1:22 pm

At least for defensive positions, height is significant. Most top CB are 6 ft plus. Many around 6'3 and 6'4. Some of the top strikers are 6 ft plus as well and their size and strength are significant to their playstyle Especially targetman. CDM are often similar in size to CB too. Shortest and most "fragile" players are typically wingers/wide forwards, attacking midfielders and wing backs.

I could imagine Wade as a CDM or CB at least if he excelled at football/soccer.
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Post#2339 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Sun May 8, 2016 1:45 pm

Rustyman wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
C3H6N6O6 wrote:Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf got suspended for not standing during the US National Anthem.


And Dion Waiters wasn't for sitting in the locker room. Also, it says in the rule book players must stand for the national anthem, not national anthems. I think what Wade did was not classy, but I'm not so sure it was against the rules. National anthem, in the rules context as a singular item, is probably the US anthem and not the Canadian one.


What an stupid comment! So only the US anthem counts, no other? You should get out more.


I never said that. It says national anthem - singular, not plural. Don't try to put words in my mouth. If it were up to me, he'd be standing on the line for both.

@whysoserious (I'd quote you, but I'm on phone) - I agree it's **** reasoning and think he would get killed by the media if he did it during the US anthem. Waiters, who I also mentioned, did it for religious reasons (although it was probably because he wasn't starting).
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