This thread is a Safe space to hate the Warriors

[ThreeMileAllan]

To the mods: can we please just have a safe space to discuss how much current Bulls fans might root against the Warriors. If it the thread doesnt work, just let it sink, but I doubt I am the only one actively rooting against the Warriors.

The purpose of this thread is to gather in one spot any frustrations one might have in hating the Warriors. Whether it be the constant comparisons to the 96 Bulls, the injuries that always seem to favor the Dubs, or discussing strategies and lineups that might impede the Warriors and give them a tough matchup.

Any and all anti-Warriors talk is welcome in this thread!

If you want to post about "lightening up" or "just enjoy the Dubs run", or say that it is "just jealousy," that viewpoint can be posted in literally any other thread. Please just refrain and let us have THIS ONE CORNER of the internet.... Lord knows that Curry is launching threes from every other corner of the internet.


Seriously, I want to like Curry... I really do. BUT I just can't. He seems like a great guy, nice family, everything. But I cant stand his stupid shimmies.

I dont like that he represents the direction the game is going. To me, I miss post play and to watch the chuckfest that the nba is evolving into just looks like a glorified game of beer pong to me. Honestly the game looks like a ymca pickup game with everyone camping out behind the line. I don't begrudge Steph his immense talent, but I prefer athletes. I like giants, running gazelles, watching freaks of nature that I know I can never be.

This isn't the game I grew up watching.

I digress.

To start off this thread:
Which lineup from either the Spurs or the Thunder can give the Warriors trouble?

Thunders BIG stache lineup?
Or any combo the Spurs can put out there?

I personally like Spurs lineup I listed below. We didn't really see it during the regular season because of the unavailability of Diaw, but I think Diaw is the key for the spurs to give the Dubs trouble.

LaMarcus Aldridge
Boris Diaw
Kawhi Leonard
Danny Green
Tony Parker

[kingkirk]

Must…refrain…from…mocking…the…insecure…premise…of…this…thread…

[RedBulls23]

[HINrichPolice]

I'll bite.

Part of the appeal of Stephen Curry is that he's doing incredible, unbelievable things on the court, and yet, he's not one of these freakish athletes or giants that we're used to seeing. He "looks" like the average sized person that you could find at your local gym - obviously someone that works out, but not someone that's a genetic freak like LeBron or Shaq.

However, viewing Stephen Curry as someone who is "one of us" average citizens is simply not true.

He's influencing a generation of kids to believe that one day, they can be Stephen Curry. The students that I work everyday to believe that they are smart enough and can work hard enough to go to college and get a degree see Stephen Curry on TV and have these grand fantasies that they too can make the NBA.

But my students don't have the incredible advantages growing up that Curry had - growing up in NBA locker rooms, having a plethora of NBA players mentoring him, a supportive dad that happens to be one of the best shooters in the game's history, access to quality basketballs and basketball courts wherever he went as a kid, feeling safe whenever he wanted to practice his jumpshot no matter what time of day. These are incredible advantages, and Stephen Curry had them from the get go.

So no, Stephen Curry is not "one of us". No, my students should not look at him and say "why not me?" as they put aside their school related goals and jack up 3's, fantasizing that one day they too can be Stephen Curry.

They can't. And they shouldn't.

[JohnnyTapwater]

I can't hate on this team. I love watching them play.

[Red8911]

Great thread,this team has really pissed me off this year,especially when they beat the record. I think it was always OKC or San Antonio who was going to challenge them. Portland could have easily still been in this but they failed to finish games out.

[Proven_Winner]

Might be in the minority but I hate the Warriors. Fun to watch but draymond and his constant s*** talking is worse than jo. He acts like it was so easy against the Blazers but the scoreboard doesn't show that.

I like steph but ESPN makes me hate him how they try to stuff every bit of info about him down your throat. Then to top it off they'll start this whole Jordan bulls vs warriors and try to downplay the Bulls by saying who will guard curry. But then never mention how many warriors are going to TRY and defend MJ. Or how many warriors it'll take to TRY to keep rodman off every rebound.

[aguifs]

This 3 pt barrage is killing the game...This is, by far, the worst nba basketball we've been seeing...

[DuckIII]

Great thread title.

However, based on the OP's requested boundaries I can add nothing else to the thread.

[DuckIII]

Maybe I can participate and stay within the rules after all:

This 3 pt barrage is killing the game...This is, by far, the worst nba basketball we've been seeing...

There is a concern that Curry is changing the game, and for the worse. But its akin to saying Shaq could change the game. You have to actually be Curry or Shaq to do what they do/did. They are highly unique. You can't just decide to be like them, because you still have to be effective to succeed individually and to win as a team. Virtually no one will be able to do what Curry does and be efficient enough to be successful.

If I was going to point to a model that is "killing the game" (assuming that a perimeter game is even a bad thing to begin with, which I don't), I'd be looking Cleveland's direction right now.

[rtblues]

"The hate is strong with this one"
But, I get it. Before first title, hated on Detroit, Jordan run, people hated him and Bulls, it's natural. Having said that, I'd like to see Green STFU. Guy is annoying!

[Talclipse]

im starting to dislike them simply cause of the media nut hugging.it seems every story has to leads to the Warriors or Curry in some way.

but as a whole,i think the league has lost its soul.its become so sterile and detatched from its roots.and honestly,90% of those that played before Jordans era would get annihilated now.could you imagine Larry Bird becoming Larry Legend today?? i think he would become the next Adam Morrison insteed.

[MBPKOGZ]

I'll bite.

Part of the appeal of Stephen Curry is that he's doing incredible, unbelievable things on the court, and yet, he's not one of these freakish athletes or giants that we're used to seeing. He "looks" like the average sized person that you could find at your local gym - obviously someone that works out, but not someone that's a genetic freak like LeBron or Shaq.

However, viewing Stephen Curry as someone who is "one of us" average citizens is simply not true.

He's influencing a generation of kids to believe that one day, they can be Stephen Curry. The students that I work everyday to believe that they are smart enough and can work hard enough to go to college and get a degree see Stephen Curry on TV and have these grand fantasies that they too can make the NBA.

But my students don't have the incredible advantages growing up that Curry had - growing up in NBA locker rooms, having a plethora of NBA players mentoring him, a supportive dad that happens to be one of the best shooters in the game's history, access to quality basketballs and basketball courts wherever he went as a kid, feeling safe whenever he wanted to practice his jumpshot no matter what time of day. These are incredible advantages, and Stephen Curry had them from the get go.

So no, Stephen Curry is not "one of us". No, my students should not look at him and say "why not me?" as they put aside their school related goals and jack up 3's, fantasizing that one day they too can be Stephen Curry.

They can't. And they shouldn't.

This SEEMS like you borrowed heavily from this article:

http://www.teach4real.com/2015/05/14/dear-steph-curry-now-that-you-are-mvp-please-dont-come-visit-my-high-school/

that was published last year after Steph won his MVP award. You too could also be a teacher who holds the same exact view points on Curry but it doesn't seem that way from the way your wrote it. I know this isn't English Lit but I figure people still care about authenticity.

P.S.

To the orignal poster, I don't hate the dubs but this thread was gold!

[Howling Mad]

[DuckIII]

I'll bite.

Part of the appeal of Stephen Curry is that he's doing incredible, unbelievable things on the court, and yet, he's not one of these freakish athletes or giants that we're used to seeing. He "looks" like the average sized person that you could find at your local gym - obviously someone that works out, but not someone that's a genetic freak like LeBron or Shaq.

However, viewing Stephen Curry as someone who is "one of us" average citizens is simply not true.

He's influencing a generation of kids to believe that one day, they can be Stephen Curry. The students that I work everyday to believe that they are smart enough and can work hard enough to go to college and get a degree see Stephen Curry on TV and have these grand fantasies that they too can make the NBA.

But my students don't have the incredible advantages growing up that Curry had - growing up in NBA locker rooms, having a plethora of NBA players mentoring him, a supportive dad that happens to be one of the best shooters in the game's history, access to quality basketballs and basketball courts wherever he went as a kid, feeling safe whenever he wanted to practice his jumpshot no matter what time of day. These are incredible advantages, and Stephen Curry had them from the get go.

So no, Stephen Curry is not "one of us". No, my students should not look at him and say "why not me?" as they put aside their school related goals and jack up 3's, fantasizing that one day they too can be Stephen Curry.

They can't. And they shouldn't.

This SEEMS like you borrowed heavily from this article:

http://www.teach4real.com/2015/05/14/dear-steph-curry-now-that-you-are-mvp-please-dont-come-visit-my-high-school/

that was published last year after Steph won his MVP award. You too could also be a teacher who holds the same exact view points on Curry but it doesn't seem that way from the way your wrote it. I know this isn't English Lit but I figure people still care about authenticity.

P.S.

To the orignal poster, I don't hate the dubs but this thread was gold!

I read the article you provided, and I gotta say, I didn't find it stylistically similar to HP's post at all. It touched on the same very broad concept, but that's pretty much it outside of a couple of obvious arguments anyone would make starting from that premise (i.e., Steph's dad is Del Curry, but there really wasn't much overlap).

Also, HP's post is based on a theme very much on the surface: Steph Curry is insanely popular with youth specifically because he makes professional sports achievement appear attainable. You can't watch Dwight Howard and think "I can do that!" Unless you are Andre Drummond.

This is discussed frequently. Sometimes as a negative, sometimes as a positive. I coach youth basketball. You don't have to be around basketball-playing kids very long to see how much Curry means to them.

All that said, I don't agree with HP. I think Curry's impact is a positive. If a kid (facilitated by a parent or lack thereof) sacrifices studies for basketball, that's a personal decision and likely based on things 99% having nothing to do with Curry. Its likely a kid who will do that would have done it to be the next Damian Lillard if Steph Curry didn't exist. Curry is just the name associated with a negative that has always existed.

[League Circles]

+1000000 for this thread.

"I have a competition in me. I want no one else to succeed. I hate most (teams)..."

I hate Curry and the Warriors. No great reason, but I've always thought that venting your most base hatred instincts narrowly into sports is healthy and prevents you from hating real life and real people.

I'd like to have someone forcibly remove the ever-dangling mouthpiece.

I don't get the appeal of watching someone jack threes. He is amazing and probably the best scorer in the league, probably a top 2-5 player. But gimme the hated Lebron over Steph any day.

[Chi town]

I can't hate on this team. I love watching them play.

Me too. Funny thread though.

Steph is circa Pistol Pete.

[jumpmanjay]

I don't hate the Warriors, but I am rooting against them.

Steph is just on another world. He has the cheat code.

[Shill]

"I have a competition in me. I want no one else to succeed. I hate most (teams)..."

+Daniel Plainview


I don't necessarily hate the Warriors; I was rooting for them last year as the plucky upstart. But I'm just not feelin' the sequel. Too much dancing. Too much hype. Too much trash-talking. Too many lucky breaks. I'm a little salty.

Generally I hate the dominant team unless it's my team. Guess I'm just a hater like that.

I'm not rooting against them at all costs, though. I hope the state of Ohio never sees another championship in any sport.

[Rerisen]

This post is only tangentially related to the thread, but I don't see the ever increasing trend of 3 pointers stopping until new rules are instituted, or more suitably, old rules, such as hand check. The league purposely made it easier to score, especially for perimeter players and wings, and they have achieved, and then over achieved their aim. To the point where everything between the rim and the arc is devalued, outside specialists like LMA or Bosh. But for everyone else, you are considered a low IQ player to opt for 2 pt jumpers outside late shot clock.

Fast forward 5-7 years and I can easily see the majority of great players never operating in the middle areas, much like Steph and Harden rarely ever do. It's simply mathematics, 3 is more than 2, and yet for a generation having grown up specializing the 3, the difficulty to hit them is probably not commensurate with the rewarded points.

Once the % of 3s per team reaches a certain point, if it hasn't already, I think it is actually regressing the aesthetics of the game, as so much interplay is being lost closer in that actually matters.

Amazingly you can now hear a discussion among the intelligentsia if Anthony Davis will ever truly become the impact superstar it was once believed, unless he learns to add a regular 3 pointer to his repertoire. You can debate the merits of that argument but that it is asked at all is a worrying comment on where the game could be headed.

Popovich is even more militant against it. Most would say sour grapes, but I do think the league could be approaching a point soon where Silver and the rules committee have a discussion. Ironic right now, Cleveland is jacking more threes than GS.

"I still hate it," Popovich said. "I'll never embrace it. I don't think it's basketball. I think it's kind of like a circus sort of thing. Why don't we have a 5-point shot? A 7-point shot? You know, where does it stop, that sort of thing. But that's just me, that's just old-school. To a certain degree, you better embrace it or you're going to lose. And every time we've won a championship, the 3-point shot was a big part of it. Because it is so powerful and you've gotta be able to do it. And nobody does it better than Golden State, and you know where they're at. So it's important. You can't ignore it." -CBS